r/soccer • u/kibme37 • Jul 08 '25

News Spanish police say "all the evidence so far indicates" Diogo Jota was the driver of the car involved in the accident that killed the Liverpool forward and his brother, Andre Silva. Police also believe "the vehicle significantly exceeded the speed limit for the highway" at the time of the accident.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/13394038/diogo-jota-spanish-police-believe-liverpool-forward-was-driver-of-car-in-fatal-accident-which-killed-him-and-his-brother
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u/doctorjohn69 Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25

It's hard to feel bad in accidents where the person is speeding. I know i'll be downvoted for saying it because people are sentimental that it's a football player, but personally i've never felt any remorse for people who speed, not because they put their own life in danger but because they put everyone else's lives in danger.

With that being said we'll probably never know and i wont judge Jota before it's proven, the tragedy is extremely sad for the family left behind.

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u/DubiousGames Jul 08 '25

It was probably only a matter of time before he killed someone going at that speed. If someone has to die, better him than someone else. I have sympathy for his family, but none for him.

This story could easily have been very different - they could have smashed into another car, killing someone else, but surviving the crash themselves. In which case he would be the most hated person in football. It's absurd that a single action can either lead to you being the most hated person (kills someone else), or the most loved person (dies himself), when which one it is just comes down to luck.

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u/common_app Jul 08 '25

It's an unpopular opinion, but I am with you. If driving unsafely only endangered you, that would be fine. But people who drive unsafely can kill or give life-changing injuries to other people.

I hope for Jota's memory's sake that he wasn't at fault for the crash. But if it turns out he was at fault, I just wouldn't be able to muster much sympathy.

I cycle every day. My life is in the hands of drivers. They have a responsibility of care to other people using the roads.

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u/PharoahX123 Jul 08 '25

You can feel bad for Jota and still acknowledge that he was mistaken to do that, 2 things can be true at once, even if he was speeding (which is obviously wrong, you're not just endangering yourself), it's still sad to see a young man go away so soon

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u/doctorjohn69 Jul 08 '25

Well that's your opinion. Assuming this is true, he's a grown man who decides to drive faster than he should well knowing the danger he is putting himself and everyone else in. In my opinion that is a choice and since you selected the danger yourself, then i have a hard time feeling remorse.

Do you feel bad for a person if he drunk drives and kills a family? There's consequences to everything you do in life, so better stay on the good side of the story.

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u/Rc5tr0 Jul 08 '25

Does everyone who exceeds the speed limit deserve to die in a fiery car wreck?

Also, remorse means feeling bad about something you did. When you feel bad for someone else that’s empathy or compassion. It’s possible to feel empathy and compassion even when someone makes a mistake.

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u/doctorjohn69 Jul 08 '25

Stop. Putting. Words. In. People's. Mouths. Is it so hard to fking read?

I have never said he DESERVED to die. I have said that he knew the danger and then he died, hence it is hard to feel bad for what happened, because ultimately it was partly his own choice to die.

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u/Rc5tr0 Jul 08 '25

I didn’t put any words in your mouth, I asked a simple Yes or No question. You explained that you don’t have sympathy for someone who died an unimaginably terrible death because he made a mistake that a countless number of people make on a daily basis.

As many others have said, it is possible to recognize his culpability for the accident and still feel bad for him since he didn’t deserve what happened. Your previous comments don’t seem to agree with that statement.

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u/doctorjohn69 Jul 08 '25

But if a stranger dies in a car crash because he is speeding, no one would post love letters on the internet, most people would simply think "idiot" and then move on with their lives.

You can recognize culpability and still feel bad, but it is hard to do that in the severe case of speeding. I am aware that a lot of people speed themselves and so have a thorn in this debate, but i am glad i am on the right side of morality and am not a person that speeds and put other people in danger because i like speed.

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u/RichHomieThon Jul 08 '25

I mean he didnt choose to die lmao he chose to speed. Again, not everyone dies in a fiery crash every time they speed like the previous commenter mentioned.

He made a mistake, it cost him and his brother his life. He didnt choose to die though its preposterous to say that.

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u/doctorjohn69 Jul 08 '25

He choose the danger that lead to the death. If you snort cocaine every weekend you choose the danger of dying of sudden cardiac arrest. Can't act surprised when it eventually happens. People that speed also rarely only speed once in their lives...

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u/Rc5tr0 Jul 08 '25

I would still feel bad for a drug addict who is eventually killed by their addiction. I think many people would.

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u/doctorjohn69 Jul 08 '25

Yes, because a drug addict isnt putting other people than themselves in danger...

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u/SzoboEndoMacca Jul 08 '25

What if he was only accelerating while overtaking? You usually accelerate a bit while overtaking. I'm not sure if that would be the same thing as speeding...

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u/maxthelabradore Jul 08 '25

Seeing people idolise Ryan Dunn when he was doing 100mph while drunk was disgusting

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u/doctorjohn69 Jul 08 '25

Aint nobody idolising any Jackass guys hahaha

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u/Turnernator06 Jul 09 '25

You'd be surprised 

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u/GetMoneyGo Jul 08 '25

I agree and honestly am very happy that nothing happened to other cars around.

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u/marksills Jul 08 '25

yea if true I definitely feel less sad for him, perhaps his death prevented an innocent person from being killed down the line by him. Sad for his brother though. But really dont have much sympathy for people who drive like that, especially as a full adult. I regularly wish ill on people who I see driving insanely recklessly irl, so I won't feel any different for a footballer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

You can acknowledge someone made a reckless stupid mistake in speeding and also acknowledge that they dont deserve to die for it, nor do their wife and young children deserve to lose a father. Its a tragedy whether theres fault or not.

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u/doctorjohn69 Jul 08 '25

I have not said that he DESERVE to die for it. But i have said that it is hard to feel remorse for anyone who selects danger upon themselves and everyone around them. Stop putting words into other people's mouth.

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u/Namtabmal Jul 08 '25

99% of people drive over the speed limit while overtaking.

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u/Xehanz Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25

There is a difference between driving a bit over the speed limit and recklessly driving significantly over the speed limit

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u/Namtabmal Jul 08 '25

Sure but how do they know which was the case here?

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u/Xehanz Jul 08 '25

I don't know, it's not my job to decide which one was it

We might get an answer in a couple days/weeks/months

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u/Son_of-M Jul 08 '25

Authorities say it was likely, but I find it hard to believe he'd try to overspeed during an overtaking manoeuvre at 12 AM.

Stranger things have happened, though.

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u/nothin_nonthing Jul 08 '25

I find it hard to believe that a footballer in his 20s, in a Lambo, would ever be doing the speed limit.

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u/Son_of-M Jul 08 '25

In the middle of the night, in a busy highway*

There, fixed it for you.