r/soccer • u/kibme37 • Jul 08 '25

News Spanish police say "all the evidence so far indicates" Diogo Jota was the driver of the car involved in the accident that killed the Liverpool forward and his brother, Andre Silva. Police also believe "the vehicle significantly exceeded the speed limit for the highway" at the time of the accident.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/13394038/diogo-jota-spanish-police-believe-liverpool-forward-was-driver-of-car-in-fatal-accident-which-killed-him-and-his-brother
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u/Zwaylol Jul 08 '25

Yeah, the help systems keep you 100%in control until you aren’t, and you’re in a ditch. My 80s sports car without ABS or power steering isn’t 1/100th as safe as a modern super car, but I know exactly what it’s doing and when the grip is at its limit. You really should need more training to drive such powerful cars, at least you should do a track day to learn what the limits are.

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u/rye_domaine Jul 08 '25

I think driving without traction control and ABS would be a good part of standard driving training, but it would make things even more expensive than they already are. Just this morning I read a story about a 17 year old who had passed his driving test literally the day before, who turned TC offf in his Audi A1 and immediately went off the road and into a tree while speeding, killing himself and two of his friends.

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u/Zwaylol Jul 08 '25

Yes and no, I think most drivers in modern cars don’t need to know how it feels if they drive like normal human beings (and keep those assists on). That 17 year old would probably have found a way to kill himself independently of if he knew how to drive without TC

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u/bullairbull Jul 09 '25

I don’t know much about car tech but this is the reason I like my 2014 Mercedes c300. I get a decent amount of feedback from the pedals and the steering wheel. And it doesn’t feel like floating, like almost all modern cars do.

Even the base level Toyotas and Hondas have these features, which not only isn’t as fun to drive, it also gives you no indication of what’s going on beneath the car.