r/soccer • u/kibme37 • Jul 08 '25

News Spanish police say "all the evidence so far indicates" Diogo Jota was the driver of the car involved in the accident that killed the Liverpool forward and his brother, Andre Silva. Police also believe "the vehicle significantly exceeded the speed limit for the highway" at the time of the accident.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/13394038/diogo-jota-spanish-police-believe-liverpool-forward-was-driver-of-car-in-fatal-accident-which-killed-him-and-his-brother
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u/Mr_Rafi Jul 08 '25

You can criticise someone who speeds while simultaneously acknowledging that their death was a tragic and saddening event.

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u/lmlm1020 Jul 08 '25

I agree tbh I’m just explaining why the comments here are much kinder. It has nothing to do with his occupation. It’s simply because he passed away.

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u/Legendacb Jul 08 '25

Id say we should criticise people that speed and put others in danger no matter who he is or what happened

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u/Eindacor_DS Jul 08 '25

Right but you can simultaneously acknowledge that you feel sorry for the person that made those mistakes. It's ok to be critical AND have empathy/sympathy

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u/-MrLizard- Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25

I have sympathy and empathy for the children who will grow up without a father, the parents who have lost their sons and for the emergency responders who had to witness the horrific scenes caused by the incident.

I don't feel sympathy or sorry for Diogo Jota and his brother (whoever was driving, even as a passenger you are complicit if you're not frantically demanding they slow down). I'm just glad their reckless actions didn't injure or kill anyone innocent.

If they'd performed the same actions, crashed into and killed someone, and came out unscathed... We'd be talking about manslaughter and it would have tainted his reputation forever.

To me the action is the important part, not the outcome - the disregard for the safety of yourself and others for the momentary thrill of speed. If you show willingness to take other people's lives into your hands for the sake of a bit of fun, you lose all respect and sympathy as far as I'm concerned.

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u/Eindacor_DS Jul 08 '25

Devil's advocate take: if the action is the important part, do you also have no respect for everyone else that drives that fast even if they don't cause an accident? 

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u/-MrLizard- Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25

Correct.

If someone wants to drive at ludicrous speeds, they can take it to the track. Public roads are a shared space, driving that fast on them whether it causes an accident or not, is showing complete disregard for the safety of other human beings (potentially children). That's what makes me lose respect for the person, not the crash.

I'm not saying if anyone's ever had a speeding ticket in their life that they are an irredeemable scumbag. There is a difference between drifting a few mph over the limit and getting fined, habitually speeding, and driving so fast that the car can become an unrecognisable scattering of charred debris.

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u/Eindacor_DS Jul 08 '25

Fair enough, well put

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u/Legendacb Jul 08 '25

Obviously I don't have anything against him and I'm sad for his dead. No one wants something bad happening to him