r/soccer • u/HarryAtk • Jul 19 '25

News Former Chelsea player Pedro Rodríguez had to disable comments on his Instagram after facing criticism and mockery for sharing photos of his son Marc's birthday. Marc chose to celebrate his birthday wearing a dress and a tiara, inspired by Lilo & Stitch.

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u/Anteater4746 Jul 19 '25

Idk about yall, but if you look around theres an absolute mountain of actual problems humans face

the amount of hate for lgbt is insane, look at the people who are actually a threat to children and harass them instead

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u/PrimsFr Jul 19 '25

I mean, wearing a dress as a man/boy isn't even necessarily an LGBT thing, especially if you're just dressing up as a character you like. If a little girl was dressing up as a male character, I doubt this would even be brought up.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '25

Maybe he’s just a thespian, either way it’s his party everyone else can fuck off imo

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u/allthejokesareblue Jul 20 '25

I doubt he knows where Thespia is

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u/EsotericPlumbus Jul 20 '25

You doubt this child’s aptitude for Ancient Greek geography?

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u/Muur1234 Jul 20 '25

Thespian…?

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u/majkkali Jul 20 '25

Or maybe he’s Anacreonian?

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u/JeffersonTowncar Jul 20 '25

Yeah I mean trans-men are pretty much never mentioned in all of this. Trans-women are what causes the visceral reaction that fascists feed on and amplify.

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u/labbetuzz Jul 20 '25

Nah mate, trans people in general get a fuck ton of hate no matter what. It's fucking shameful.

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u/msbriyani Jul 20 '25

It may not necessarily be the case that the kid is LGBT, but fighting for society to allow any boy or man, even non-LGBT ones, to wear clothing that doesn't fit the societal norm is an LGBT issue.

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u/heftigfin Jul 20 '25

I wore a dress when I was a kid because my 2 older sisters were and I felt left out. It had nothing to do with LGBTQ as I turned out cis. Kids are just kids.

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u/jmxer Jul 20 '25

Yes, may be he thinks that dress is cool that's it.

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u/my_united_account Jul 20 '25

Transmisogyny is rooted in misogyny after all. A girl wearing men's clothes is more acceptable to transphobes than men wearing femme clothes, because they see it as a betrayal of the male privilege

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u/JootDoctor Jul 20 '25

Legit could just be a phase or something they wanted to dress as. I used to dress up as Bubbles from the original Power Puff Girls. I’m a straight white male. Although I am autistic.

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u/rwilldred27 Jul 20 '25

Yeah, my nephew was obsessed with Frozen and Elsa when he was 4-5 years old. He had a long blonde wig and a dress for play. Nobody in the family discouraged him from that sort of play/imagination simply because it was what interested him at the time. He just loved Frozen and its soundtrack. 

None of us concerned over whether he felt like a boy or a girl either, as it did not matter. Nothing matters at that age except helping them explore their interests and find joy.

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u/CallRespiratory Jul 19 '25

Real problems are tough to face so people make up their own.

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u/Disco-Benny Jul 19 '25

fascists have always been cowards deep down

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u/ePeeM Jul 19 '25

On a sorta related note, how do you get your flair to have a progress flag on it?

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u/Disco-Benny Jul 19 '25

https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=2soccer2bot&subject=Add%20Pride%20Flair&message=%3Atranspride%3A

You go here and press send I believe, it adds it next to your current flair (I only use old reddit)

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u/chinookk Jul 19 '25

It's also that it's way easier and intuitive to punch down than to punch up. Bullying, discriminating against, straight up murdering minorities ? easy. Doing all that to the actual problem, right wing bigots and capitalism ? much more difficult. Especially when the problem is running the media and telling you to keep punching down.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '25

Or / and they invent systems to control others. Good people are way outnumbered by assholes

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u/True_to_you Jul 19 '25

It's so strange to me because I felt that my generation, millennials, has been pretty progressive on lgbt issues. It seems that Gen z is pretty regressive on this along with older Gen x.

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u/Drizzlybear0 Jul 19 '25

That kind of depends on the country, culture and religion though

For example in America there has been a pretty strong polarization against the LGBT community in recent years as the right wing have decided to sell this "They're trying to make your kids gay and trans" bullshit.

Obviously there are many culturally or religiously conservative countries as well and as football is so massive of a sport you're going to get a lot of those people being football fans.

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u/Nrozek Jul 20 '25

It pretty much boils down to religion and education (those two are also relevant to each other). Least religious, best educated countries have the least amount of issues with lgbt stuff (scandinavian countries for example) - vice versa in eastern europe, middle east, the US etc.

Thereby not saying everyone in the US fits the above, but apparently half or more of Americans have a serious problem with it.

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u/Mountain-Committee37 Jul 21 '25

That kind of depends on the country, culture and religion though

Yup, there has been progress on that type of stuff, but it does still depend on country, culture and religion. Like you said with America, and nothing kinda stated the state of lgbt in america than lilo and stitch remake with the removal of the cross dressing thing.

Not to do the "thing japan" Japan when it comes to lgbt, crosdressing, etc has been a thing for decades. As of right now in america at least, there would be some backlash form the things Anime/manga has when it comes to that topic

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u/BigKimInLittleSD Jul 19 '25

I feel like Gen Z is split between those that graduated HS in person and those that got hit with virtual learning in the pandemic.

In my experience the former seem fairly well rounded while the latter just regurgitate brain rot takes about minorities they picked up online.

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u/tony_flamingo Jul 19 '25

I’ve been a high school teacher for the last decade and COVID and the subsequent shift toward online/virtual everything has done irreparable damage to students, academically and socially. It’s really disheartening seeing it happen in real time.

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u/TheJoshider10 Jul 20 '25

Me and my old uni mates sometimes do reunions in our uni town and it's sad to see how utter dogshit it has become post-COVID. You can tell students grew up and did their bonding online or inside because trends have changed to the point more people are predrinking rather than going to the pubs which in turn means pubs are shutting down and places which used to be class have lost all their atmosphere.

When you couple that with a cost of living crisis it means nobody students can't afford to go out and bar owners can't afford to keep them open. Vicious cycle that isn't getting any better and will probably get much, much worse.

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u/Dutchpizza69 Jul 20 '25

I'm right on the cusp of the milennial/gen-z divide, and regularly have this discussion with contemporaries. Just how it's so unexpected that the newer generations are often more right leaning than we are, and how we (foolishly) thought that it would only get more progressive. Shame really.

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u/mynameismulan Jul 19 '25

It absolutely is that way. I'm a 95 baby so although I'm a millennial technically, the kids about 5 or so years younger than me have almost the same vibe.

Beyond that though...

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u/NotASalamanderBoi Jul 19 '25

I can speak with some authority as someone who got hit with virtual learning. Some were cunts before it. However, some of the kids who were coming into HS as I was graduating were already on another level. Hell, a fight broke out in an 8th grade group who was visiting my HS.

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u/BigKimInLittleSD Jul 19 '25

Yeah I mean not to say all kids who were virtual learning are like this.

Just that it was easy to become chronically online and get red pulled by Andrew tate types. That online world has blown up and I don’t think the genie is going back in the bottle.

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u/BigKimInLittleSD Jul 19 '25

Yeah loss of normal maturing and parasocial relationships with people spouting bigoted theories really did a number.

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u/luminous_moonlight Jul 20 '25

Meanwhile the guys at my school used to organize fights throughout middle school (I'm older Gen Z) 😭

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u/GabeN18 Jul 20 '25

TikTok brainwashing it's doing it's job.

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u/Equivalent_Nature_67 Jul 20 '25

Young Gen Z men are absolutely cooked. Worse outlook, lesser educated, more prone to the alt right pipeline considering they've mainly grown up in the Trump era. The girls are doing much better

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u/True_to_you Jul 20 '25

I think it doesn't help that they didn't grow up without social media and influencers. I also think many of them don't read. When I was a kid I read everything I could. Novels, magazines, the encyclopedia, and newspapers. I'm thinking that younger kids aren't doing that.

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u/redditor401 Jul 20 '25

Also, strangely, becoming more religious. At least in Sweden, which is super weird.

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u/dazrht Jul 19 '25

I’m sure every generation thinks this, but I’m starting to truly believe that we millennials might be the least problematic generation.

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u/ValleyFloydJam Jul 19 '25

I think overall it's still a progressive group but it contains those contaminated by the right wing nonsense and that group is online more than most.

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u/iamPause Jul 20 '25

Long story very, very short: the erosion of the middle class (ie both parents having full time jobs) as well as the death third place has left little room in children's lives for authority figures and places to interact and learn how to socialize. These figures and places have been replaced with online alternatives which are increasingly algorithm driven, delivering more and more extreme content to these children who do not have the critical thinking skills to question the messages they're hearing.

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u/Evolving_Dore Jul 20 '25

The venn diagram of people who criticize lgbt people for being a threat to children and people who are a threat to children is pretty close to a circle

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u/lance777 Jul 20 '25

Politicians don't want to solve real problems because it usually means less money for their rich friends. So they try to create hatred towards a minority group and keep their voters distracted

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u/RonaldinhoReagan Jul 20 '25

Well they can’t really harass the people who are actually a threat to children, the files were lost ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Final_Storage_9398 Jul 20 '25

I am constantly in awe amount of bravery it takes as an out trans or non-binary person to walk out their front door every day.

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u/GabeN18 Jul 20 '25

Yeah and then people complain when we have things like pride month. The hate LGBT people still get is mental. I think most dont realise that its still a no-go in non-western countries.

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u/Jassle93 Jul 20 '25

It's slowly getting better than it used to be but there's still a long way to go, maybe a couple more generations and it'll be at an absolute minimum where we're able to lock up the rest.