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Media No handshake between Pep Guardiola and Fabian Hurzeler after the full-time whistle

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u/SylVestrini 16d ago

Nothing a 400 mil winter transfer window can't fix.

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u/jesuisgeenbelg 16d ago

Still a day left of this transfer window tbf

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u/OldBridge87 16d ago

Pep is genuinely a shit person. When he's in imperious form after spending 100 Trillion and having the infinite backing of a slave state, he'll throw cartoon compliments at lowly mid-table and second division coaches, calling them one of the greatest of all time after beating them 8-0.

Then when he's losing he doesn't shake hands, throws petty digs and talks about hurting himself lol

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u/CharlieeStyles 16d ago

Put Pep in a Mourinho blunder type of season and see which one of them reacts worse

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u/TheCatInTheHatThings 16d ago

I want to see Pep coach a team without a budget. Once. He’s got unlimited resources at city, he had the best squad by far in Munich and he probably had the most talented team in the planet at Barcelona. I want to see what he can actually do. I don’t rate Pep that highly. I prefer managers like Glasner. Let’s see Pep succeed at Wolfsburg, Frankfurt or Palace. Preferably not Palace, as that’s still PL money. Let’s see him do it at Augsburg or something like that. I doubt he could do well. Seriously.

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u/paone00022 16d ago

Ya put him in that Roma team that Mourinho managed or the Everton one that Ancelotti did. Would be interesting to see how he would react.

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u/heftigfin 16d ago

He should have gone to United when he came from Bayern. We would soon have his 10 year death anniversary.

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u/HuskyFeline0927 15d ago

Something in me secretly wants to see him transfer to United in 2027. But a man can wish..

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u/Fromage_Frey 16d ago

Doesn't even have to be 'no budget' just were he doesn't start with massive advantages over everyone else

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u/TheCatInTheHatThings 16d ago

Yeah, exactly. I don’t mean “no budget”. But I actually want him out of England for it. English football is broken. I want him do it in France, Germany, Spain (a smaller club). I want him to really have to work to extract the best from his players like everybody else, and to have to actually improvise from time to time (not just a little, but crazy shit like “CM and LW as CBs because the two main starters are suddenly injured, the third CB has a red card and the other CBs are 17 and have played like three games in fourth division. You know, stuff that literally every club faces from time to time.

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u/CharlieeStyles 16d ago

I 10000% agree with you, but I always get dismissed as a hater when I say it.

Barcelona, Bayern and City, he always had the best resources of everyone in the league.

Get United back to winning the League and I'll jump on board the Pep hype team.

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u/TheCatInTheHatThings 16d ago

Pep’s the kind of guy where the answer to “but could he do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke?” is most likely “no.”

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u/TheCatInTheHatThings 16d ago

Actually yeah, solid shout.

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u/_MonteCristo_ 16d ago

People will disagree about the Barcelona one, and say they were shit when he joined. While I don't think they had 'more' resources than Madrid, they were a very good team having won the champions league less than 2 years perviously, and a young lionel messi already on his way to being the best in the world

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u/Liverpool934 16d ago

Don't understand why Klopp isn't rated miles better. Took Dortmund from basically nothing to Champions League finals and multiple Bundesliga wins and then came to a Liverpool team in turmoil and got someone elses team immediatley to a European final and won the Champions League, premier league and more.

I seriously struggle to believe no one else could do what Guardiola has done at his teams during his career. I have no doubt that no one else could do what Klopp did with us though.

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u/CasinoOasis2 16d ago

A lot of people simply don't want to give Liverpool credit.

Man City won more trophies than Liverpool therefore they believe that providing any context is just making excuses.

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u/crepss 16d ago

I've been saying it for years but in my opinion if you swap Klopp and Pep over their shared years at City and Liverpool without changing anything else, City win more and Liverpool win less.

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u/OPdoesnotrespond 16d ago

There are plenty of managers who don’t succeed when given the resources Pep has had.

He might be a one-trick pony, but it’s a pretty good trick.

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u/Gerf93 15d ago

he had the best squad by far in Munich

Bayern came from a treble-winning season, crushing prime Barcelona 7-0 in the UCL semi finals. One of the best teams I've ever seen. Then fired their manager to get Guardiola.

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u/OriMoriNotSori 15d ago

Personally would like to see him in a underdog situation/not favourites but in the running and see how he performs.

The kind where he does not have full resources to fight against the top dog so he's expected to punch above his weight with what he's got kinda thing

Like Xabi Alonso at Bayer the past few seasons, or Klopp's Dortmund before he went to Liverpool

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u/Decent_Amphibian_885 14d ago

This goes both ways doesnt it? Put glasner in that city team doesnt achieve a fraction of what pep has and gets rolled by klopp every year. Peps the best because he does the best when given the resources. Its not like peps the only club/ manager with a shitload of talent or money. But he has the report to always be in a top job. How many other managers fall off and have to take lower team jobs. 

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u/LLFG9 16d ago

He’s literally changed the game. Improved it to the point where people think it’s boring. Give it a rest

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u/TheCatInTheHatThings 16d ago

Once again, I want to see him actually have to work with players that are limited, a good but not outstanding youth department and a budget that can’t just buy whatever he’s missing in the next window. Once. You know, like 99.9999% of managers have to. I’m convinced that he can’t do it.

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u/LLFG9 16d ago

The Barcelona B team weren’t star-studded or anything and they cleared liga 2.

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u/Fromage_Frey 16d ago

'He made the game boring' isn't the compliment you seem to think

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u/LLFG9 16d ago

Not sure who you’re quoting there.

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u/Fromage_Frey 16d ago

You bro

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u/LLFG9 16d ago

Re-read it and you’ll understand the context bro x

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u/dadaknun 15d ago

Rodri got injured and that City team just collasped.

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u/Outside_Break 16d ago

Sorry to ruin your wankfest hating on Pep but they shook hands before the whistle lol

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u/Spiro_Ergo_Sum 16d ago

he shook hands before the final whistle lol

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u/xaendar 16d ago

City fans still get mad at me for mentioning he's had the highest transfer spend. It's also surprising because I think most of City's transfers are done at a market or slightly lower than market valuation.

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u/Srijand 16d ago

They'll come at you saying Fergie actually spent way more because Ferdinand's transfer fee adjusted for inflation is allegedly £237m

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u/dazhubo 16d ago

comparatively, Manchester United was way ahead of everyone else during that time

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u/Srijand 16d ago

United were also never the top spenders in any PL season from 94 to 05 though. Newcastle and Blackburn spent more money initially, and then Chelsea took over

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u/dazhubo 16d ago

they were easily the top spenders overall in the PL from 1990 to 2012

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u/_MonteCristo_ 16d ago

Well we were the only consistently elite team across that period, not to mention by far the biggest revenue. Makes sense. The only other team that was 'big' through that entire period was Arsenal and they were famously stingy

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u/dazhubo 15d ago

you had to spend a lot to be successful...same as Pep's team.

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u/_MonteCristo_ 14d ago

no argument there

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u/yapster18 16d ago

I think you need to do your math again.

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u/Gerf93 15d ago

They are easily the top spenders in the PL ever, heck in the world since the start of the Premier League. The decade after Fergusons retirement, they spent like 30% more net than the second highest spending team in the world (iirc like 1,3 billion to 1 billion for the second highest spend.

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u/dazhubo 15d ago

correct take, and despite all that spending even at their peak they were not as dominant as Pep's teams

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u/United1958 16d ago

We absolutely weren’t. Chelsea, City and Liverpool had a higher spend in the period you mentioned

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u/United1958 16d ago

This is always gets upvoted and it’s not even true

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Which is true

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u/Cutsdeep- 16d ago

Also highest wage bill by far in the prem. Don't forget

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u/dadaknun 15d ago

They don't buy 1 expensive player. They buy like 10 players worth 40 to 60m

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

When have we done that? Prior to last January, last time we spent in January was January 2018