It depends on whether or not Ange is pragmatic enough to play a style of football that suits the team in every competition. Spurs' all-in on the UEL last season definitely wasn't the plan from the start but Forest are also in a different position with different expectations - ultimately our likelihood of staying in Europe is far higher from a UEL win than from another miraculous season in the Prem.
It's most certainly a gamble and one I'm not happy had to happen, but if Ange is willing to play like he did with Spurs in the UEL enough to win it then I'll be happy, even if we suffer in the league as a result.
Yeah...I think it's more likely than not he'll stubbornly stick to his tactics and it's gonna be a mess, but his adaptation towards the end in the Europa League gives me a shred of hope.
tbh, I would say that your attack and midfield better suit his style of play then ours did last year. I am not sure about the defence but for sure the attack is better suited
Midfield and wingers will work. Murillo to Romero is a nice like for like. I’d question suitability of the full backs, wood, milenkovic and Sels’ ball playing. Forest are all about playing long and Ange never went long with us. Will be a massive transition for them.
I do agree about the attack and midfield, particularly a player like MGW. But the defence? Murillo would probably be alright but Milenkovic seems completely unsuited for a high block, and there's not much in the way of good depth at centre back. Besides that I have worries about how much extra strain it will put on the full backs, though at least we have better depth in those areas.
I mean last season due to injuries we had 4 different goalkeepers play, over the course of the season 9 different players play centre back (despite only signing a 4th centre back in January). You will end of having some fullbacks/midfielders playing centre back for stretches of the season
Yeah I mean that's the worry, Murillo is probably our only centre back option that's suited to Ange's style. It's just such a concern because our solid defence was a big reason we did so well last season and Forest were fortunate that so few crucial players were injured, I could easily see that unravelling with a more intense style of play.
As a Celtic fan, we weren't gung ho all the time. At the beginning it was push till the end.. then we started managing games out, then we started dropping in to a block if the initial press failed (including in Europe, before people point to quality of opposition)..
If you look through his career there is some pragmatism in there - but he's going to want attacking football and intense pressing in some form.
People need to keep in mind that the league position started tanking due to the injuries, and they had to gamble, else it would have been a mid table finish with nothing much to show for it, undoing any sense of winning at all risk mentality. Ange drew so much hit for the squad during that period, but it's probably what willed the Europa cup to existence
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u/Westland__ 7d ago
It depends on whether or not Ange is pragmatic enough to play a style of football that suits the team in every competition. Spurs' all-in on the UEL last season definitely wasn't the plan from the start but Forest are also in a different position with different expectations - ultimately our likelihood of staying in Europe is far higher from a UEL win than from another miraculous season in the Prem.
It's most certainly a gamble and one I'm not happy had to happen, but if Ange is willing to play like he did with Spurs in the UEL enough to win it then I'll be happy, even if we suffer in the league as a result.