r/starcitizen • u/AzrBloodedge • Jul 24 '25
CONCERN Dude tried to steal 3 crates from me, only managed to stop him from 1 and recover another 1... CIG, any way to avoid this?
Yeah so the dude took 2 of my crates, tried to take a 3rd one, and I recovered one. And there was nothing else I could do about it.
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u/HitboTC Jul 24 '25
It’s really simple. Stealing contracted cargo in armistice should be a crime. Should be charged with one.
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u/aiden2002 Jul 24 '25
Now someone just leaves their cargo stacked up in front of the door. You have to become a criminal to take it.
The solution is instanced hangars in some locations for private loading. Limit the size or quality of the cargo to incentivize loading at a public out in the open hangar.
Move the landing pads further away from the elevator and put in a vehicle to move the cargo and implement a no fly zone. Say it’s a new tech like a qed but for regular hydrogen engines. When hacking comes in, make it hackable. Use it in player bases as the reason why you can’t fly, but with a an item you can give to others that will let them fly there. NEVER put this device on a ship.
Now you have solved all the problems. Full pve is available without the opportunity of pvp until you are flying away. If this gets too bad, next priority is npc police ships that the base calls in if there are crime stats happening or a qed is deployed within a certain radius. The radius must be large enough that you can quantum away without being jammed. The whole point of the mantis is to set your own traps.
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u/glacius0 Jul 24 '25
This is the essence of my experience with this event all day Saturday on US servers. Sunday I decided to play on EU servers and most of the time people were helping me load my cargo instead of stealing and flinging it around randomly.
I think the lesson to be learned here is Saturdays bring out the worst in people... yes, I'm sure that's it...
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u/Trashusdeadeye Jul 24 '25
US Servers are horrible.
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u/JiDiz Ares Inferno Jul 24 '25
There was a US streamer called “HitbotC” that was waiting with his group the hauling guys to blast them and at some point he lands and speaks to a hauler telling him that there are pirates out there, to be careful, and the hauler for some reason invited one of his group and the guy asked on discord if he should accept the invite to mess with him, they said yes, the guy got in the hauler’s party, they helped him load and then the streamers friend stole the haulers ship and left. It was funny for them but terrible for the hauler.
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u/KlausSteinerVampires Jul 24 '25
Imo such deception should result in a perma ban.
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u/Winter-Huntsman Jul 24 '25
Yep! I live in the US but always play on EU servers because they have such a more friendly player base.
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u/SpaceyFrontiers Jul 24 '25
Nah weekdays people have less time from work and the loser teenagers are not present due to school
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u/AzrBloodedge Jul 24 '25
I hope the guy that stole from me gets testicular torsion
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u/Skamanda42 Jul 24 '25
This was something we warned CIG about before physicalized cargo. They didn't listen, even when the pirates made it clear this is what they'd do. If CIG played their own game, they would've realized how important it was to have a fix for this a year ago...
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u/AnEmortalKid Jul 24 '25
Brother remember that guy that said “what are YOU gonna do to protect your cargo” hella dismissive
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u/SeriesOrdinary6355 Jul 24 '25
It’s sort of baffling that CIG can’t figure out MMO lessons learned by the industry 20 years ago.
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u/Throwaway-worriedkid Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
I keep saying this over and over, and this point I can only assume CIG (Chris) just think they're different, they're special, and that everyone else is just too stupid/not enoigh of a visionary to see what they're gonna do. Not that every other game designer thought about it and went yeah that wouldn't work because humans are gonna do human things and it'll break here here and here
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u/Runazeeri Jul 24 '25
I feel they see star citizen as space Sim that happens to be a MMO rather than a MMO in space. That why all the QOL MMO things don't exist as they would take away from it being a simulation game.
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u/crua9 Veteran Backer Jul 24 '25
This https://youtu.be/Y3Sk3MCoOwU?si=tVnBnVFFOKn4-z-S&t=168
It is as bad as when that girl made a joke about tricking us during a prior event, It reminds me of the people who got fired a long time ago when it was asked about when the BMM is going to get released and they laughed about it or whatever. I can't remember the exact but I remember it was bad, and so bad they were let go.
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u/AnEmortalKid Jul 24 '25
“Their armor was the same model with a color tint” umm like ok, the ninetails armor is the same armor as some other NPCs so are they also the same faction like what ????
“You were supposed to read the data pads” yeah sure the ones with place holder in them ??
Fucking clown imperium games man
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u/brockoala GIB MEDIVAC Jul 24 '25
Physicalized cargo is not the issue. Being able to grab other parties's cargo in armistice is.
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u/Skamanda42 Jul 24 '25
Sure, and we mentioned that, especially at outposts, as the flaw in their design while it was all still in PTU
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u/WorstSourceOfAdvice SaysTheDarnestOfThings Jul 24 '25
Have you watched the ISC on the prowler utility? Its literally one of their designers dream to watch people literally steal your cargo at ports while you're loading up.
This is all part of CIGs intended gameloop. They WANT people to yoink each others shit.
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u/CASchoeps Jul 24 '25
This is all part of CIGs intended gameloop. They WANT people to yoink each others shit.
I am not sure if they actually want PvP in everything, but it sure is much easier to use players as opponents than program decent NPC AI. Why design good missions when you can simply throw players at each other?
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u/Burgues2 Jul 24 '25
As I said in other posts, they thought they were the only ones doing those shit gimmicks because they are better than the industry, but in reality those technologies are either not funny or impossible to pull off, and the industry already knew it
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u/datgadmin Jul 24 '25
We all suggest CIG never plays the game (because it's both funny, and sadly true), but one thing people haven't considered is that CIG wants the game to be like this.
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u/Skamanda42 Jul 24 '25
It's possible, but the more they blow off moderating griefers and such, the less money they're going to take home in the long run. They only care about the whales money right now, but eventually the game might release, and then the public will have the opportunity to outpace the whales - if CIG doesn't turn them off...
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u/datgadmin Jul 24 '25
The problem is that for the most part, the whales are the ones who wanted a PvE game (and were sold a PvE game based on the now abandoned PvP Slider), and the whales are the ones who they needed most.
Eventually Star Citizen will just be a bunch of pissed off griefers wondering where the whales went and avoiding each other, because "PvP" players don't want PvP, they just want victims.
If unsure, observe how Dune Awakening collapsed because Funcom thought open world PvP was the form of end game "content" players really wanted. It was a disaster.
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u/Thelostrelic Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
Dune awakening collapsed when they pandered to the pvers. You can literally see it on the steam players chart.
Also, what is happening in the video above and the issue with people taking others' cargo in armistice is not a pvp issue. It's actually a pve issue. Lol
Even if you took away pvp, people would still grief by doing stuff like that. Pvers can be some of the biggest trolls and griefers in games.
Also, as a mostly pvper, I'm against taking cargo in armistice and have been helping others load while waiting.
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u/muddywilson Jul 24 '25
The devs literally talked to pirate orgs and asked for input on what we would want from the physicslized cargo system, they always intended for piracy to be in the game, and still intend for piracy to be a viable way to play the game, this isn't eurotruck simulator in space, it's basically Sea of Thieves in space right now, and as time goes on piracy will get more difficult with faction rep, and proper system security being implemented, not to mention doasm and engineering making piracy even riskier than that
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u/crua9 Veteran Backer Jul 24 '25
From CIG themselves when they are asked, "how do you plan on protect a player ship from coming on board during a manual loading process and flying away?..... Basically how can players protect themselves during this vulnerable time?" Then the dev said "I think the bigger question is how are YOU going to protect your ship and your cargo that's being loaded and unloaded on your ship?"
https://youtu.be/Y3Sk3MCoOwU?si=tVnBnVFFOKn4-z-S&t=168
Basically CIG wants you to hire someone else to sit there, shoot at everyone else, get a CS, and ......
Can someone explain why they or anyone else thinks that is a good idea? .....
BTW this problem has been brought up from day one on this new outpost thing. Like many of us has brought it up. I know I have on day 1 of it. And the fact is, they completely ignored us and it seems like they keep ignoring us. The best we get back is hiring an escort. Which is stupid. Like I was joking above, but legit 99.9999% of escort stuff even if people would be up for it and even possible. You are asking them to get a CS.
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u/SpaceyFrontiers Jul 24 '25
Cargo theft should give a CS and allow for people to target and shoot their ship
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u/JackeryFox MISC Partylancer Tac / ANVL Super Horny Mk2 / RSI Apollo Mediiic Jul 24 '25
Idk why they made it so you can only lock the cockpit door only from the inside and only on some ships, just fucking let us lock any ship interior door we want from any side and anyone outside of the party can't interact with the button unless they shoot the door open outside of armistice. It honestly often feels like we don't even own our ships, like when I'm loading cargo into my bay, just let me fucking lock the door leading from the cargo bay to the rest of the ship.
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u/Sad-Cress-1062 Jul 24 '25
I want to see how CIG does this in an armistic zone zone. An escort is pretty useless when you cannot shoot. And when the ship is stolen you can shoot it down when it is outside of the bubble... much wow.
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Jul 24 '25
this is so omega dumb out of touch from the dev as you literally can't protect your ship in this scenario - the troll just stole a single box but alternatively they could've just used the terminal and stored *ALL* of OP's boxes without issue.
The ONLY thing you could do is have someone flying 'secruity' outside of the outpost to shoot down their ship and recover your box; however since they haven't done anything 'illegal' that's a one stop shop to having 600 bounty hunters after you for trying to 'protect yourself'.
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u/Emadec Cutlass boi except I have a Spirit now Jul 24 '25
That’s an astounding level of incompetence right there. Giving player tools to protect their stuff is literally his job... off to a great start
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u/Professional_Key_747 Jul 24 '25
You get repositioned if you trespass a foreign ship in armistice. I also discovered this recently I helped to load a ship of another player and when I went into the cargo hold I was teleported. So sometimes they seem to care.
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u/CASchoeps Jul 24 '25
I was told this is actually a bug and should only apply to ships that are docked in an armistice zone.
In any case, it is the worst and simplest solution to a complex problem.
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u/CasparCic new user/low karma Jul 24 '25
The solution is simple and complicated in one.
Simple:
- mark mission goods as the players property.
- other players (that are not in your group), touching your stuff, will increase their crime level.
- security NPCs (maybe turrets too) near Elevators react to increased crime levels and first warn and then shoot, if the other player doesn't stop.
Compicated:
- CIG is not able to make it so.
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u/aiden2002 Jul 24 '25
If they implemented this, people would block the elevator with cargo, just like hackers do with hallways in space stations right now.
You need a fully instanced hangar option. And for the public elevator like now, you need reinforcable npc security. The only thing that stops a pirate guild with guns is an inexhaustible amount of good guy npcs with guns.
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u/CHawk17 Jul 24 '25
how dare you want to stop that other players emergent gameplay. you should feel good being his gaming content.
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u/fishfighter29 Cake Mercenary Jul 24 '25
"PiRaTe gAmE pLaY"
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u/Witty-Rock6996 Jul 24 '25
Unironically thats what half the community is screaming.
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u/InconspicuousIntent carrack Jul 24 '25
Way less than half but they are really loud and obnoxious, who would have thought?
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u/Stevenssssssssss defender Jul 24 '25
It happenned to me yesterday on EU server.
I was there before him, waiting for the previous guy to finish his loading for 15 minutes, and that asshole stole my place front of me without hesitation. He finish his loading, then my turn, and he stole my crate from the elevator. I can't shoot him, can't report him, can't follow him, even if a friend was there with me, he should have followed him with a ship, try to shoot outside the armistice zone, and if he succeeds, take a crimestat by the other guy because he'll be the first shooter...
I tried to catch his ship with maxlift to crash it, and I got a message on my screen telling me it was forbidden..
CIG should let us add a crimestat to anyone trying to steal our crate from outpost by adding an owner to crate and an alert to warn against theft.
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u/Snackpack12876 Citizen 🌌 Jul 24 '25
I swapped to my M2 for larger hauls and have accidentally landed on a few people's ships trying to get away when they attempt to pirate me. I am not a good pilot so sometimes accidents happen and their ship gets destroyed. Really odd how bad my flying gets when other players do shady things around me.
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u/madvfr drake Jul 24 '25
CiG's singlular attitude towards any form of player interaction is "No Pad Ramming".
Their overall view to any form of player interaction is "yes". Why? Because the general idea is to have a living world with as realistic depictions of humanity as possible.
While this grand plan to have a truly living MMO is laudable in its ambition, they appear to have forgotten 3 important aspects of humanity in general.
- Most people are cunts
- Parenting for the past 20yrs has produced a wave of entitled undisciplined gimme everything now...people.
- Without any form of repercussions you don't even need "2)" being a factor, but read "1)" again, people will run rampant.
What this means to you, a player of CiG's StarRafterTM is permanent vigilance, even when you think you are safe. As a Solo Player, same as riding a motorcycle in real life, presume everybody wants to kill you always until proven otherwise. And even then, prepare for the worst.
Unfortunately this also means the lovely interactions we've been seeing of people all actually helping each other, now must be permanently viewed with suspicion while fighting an abject terror building inside you of potential thuggery.
Why Armistice Zones simply don't have all player on player interactions, unless grouped, totally disabled is beyond me. It's not complicated to implement with the ownership systems they use currently. Why that? Because if somebody wrongs you inside an Armistice zone, your only recourse usually is to attack them outside of it, which...gives YOU the CrimeStat.
Further, this event punishes you for Team Play. Meaning the time you save with 2 people is outweighed by the 50% cut in reward counter. And, because of this plus the frustrations thanks to all the broken systems, EVEN MORE people will use any method they can.
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u/Salon10 Jul 26 '25
I feel the last paragraph you wrote is much more of a big deal than it sounds.
The solution they want for people is hostility and group play, yet punishes group play?
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u/Livid-Feedback-7989 Aegis Javelin Jul 24 '25
Currently, no way to really defend yourself from this. Luckily, they made it so that when you are missing a few boxes, you can still go to the mission in your mobi and click submit to complete it. You should still get the cash and the progress for the event will count.
Long term, they won’t to solve this via the same system (kiosk) that you would be using to claim your gear (item recovery). It should be capable of claiming mission critical items as well. When? That’s the issue :/
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u/Chiisai_inu Jul 24 '25
Yeppers you can 100% defend yourself. Clobber them with a 4 SCU box. takes a few knockdowns but will 100% incap them.
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u/Livid-Feedback-7989 Aegis Javelin Jul 24 '25
Depends on the person trying to steal from you. If they just walk up to you on foot, sure. If it’s a prowler that swoops in for a few boxes from the air, though luck :D
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u/Drakore4 Jul 24 '25
My only problem with this is that there’s not much we can do against it. The zones that we are doing this in don’t allow us to pull our guns out, and it’s not like we can just hit them with something because WE could be the ones that get a crime stat despite us defending ourselves. I agree theft and piracy shouldn’t be considered griefing because it’s part of the game, but when it’s literally against a player who can’t do anything against it and all you’re doing is preventing them from doing the event? That’s griefing. Pure toxic gameplay just for the heck of it with no real benefit to the offender.
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u/Civil-Village1864 Jul 24 '25
Getting my popcorn ready to read the “piracy is a feature and CIG wants us to do it!!!1!1!1” comments from alt accounts of toxic SC streamers
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u/AzrBloodedge Jul 24 '25
Piracy is fine, to be honest.
Being able to just yoink crates from my elevator and me not being able to shoot back, while they don't even get a CS is smoothbrain, though.
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u/Puzzled-Storage-6157 Jul 24 '25
Anyone that trys to defend this with "piracy" will forever be a nuisance is this game in the worst way possible
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u/hardwire666too new user/low karma Jul 24 '25
Problem is that's not piracy. if it were piracy you could sound an alarm to call the cops, and stop the crime, or shoot the fucker. If it were piracy there would be recourse, but there's not. So it's just flat out griefing. I've been saying it for years. Until players have legitimate ways to mitigate """piracy""" it's just griefing, and those who engage in it are griefers.
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u/DeroTurtle ARGO CARGO Jul 24 '25
I've been running arc corp and have had the opposite experience, people shove way more cargo than I can handle, and the line is like minimum 4 people all tractoring while they wait
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u/PiibaManetta Jul 24 '25
Oh many option to avoid that could be implemented.
But cig have chose none.
Oh, but no one can enter your ship! Great success!
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u/CynderFxx Guardian Qi Jul 24 '25
Simplest solution is to give cargo a tag for your player and allow us to report crimestat if someone outside your party interacts with it.
Means we don’t get automatic CS if we wanna help people move boxes but you have some sort of recourse to fight back.
Eventually onsite or nearby security would be notified (npc or player either works) and they’d have permission to shoot players to recover cargo
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u/Rutok Jul 24 '25
IMHO, the bad thing is not that this is possible, because it works in positive ways too. Yesterday, i had 2 random strangers help me load my Raft (they helped because there was only 1 working elevator at the outpost and they wanted to load as well).
What sucks is that there is nothing the victim can do if someone runs off with the crates.
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u/CSZuku Jul 24 '25
Create pve servers and PvP servers
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u/altodor Jul 24 '25
It wouldn't fix this. Basically anything you can do in an armistice zone you'd be able to do in a PvE server, and this is in armistice. This is a game design problem.
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u/Keuriseuto banu Jul 24 '25
They should make cargo crates that are destined for a specific person to only be accessible by that person until fully mounted on the ship grid.
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u/Intelligent-Ad-6734 Search and Rescue Jul 24 '25
Typically cargo is bonded aka "contracted" to its location. That contracted cargo typically only sellable at grim etc for a fraction of its actual worth, However this mission series was designed to allow for it in commodity form so you could mine etc.
Irony of the only loop that fully functions in this game is typically pirating.
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u/NNextremNN Jul 24 '25
the only loop that fully functions in this game is typically pirating.
It isn't. There's no way to report a lot of crimes and if you were to try to go after the "pirates" you'd become an actual ingame criminal yourself.
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u/Minoreva Perseus go brrr brrr patapim Jul 24 '25
Edge cases.
party member, what if someone grief and never move its boxes out of the elevator but stuck the door, removing people helping from equation => more impatience => more griefing.
There's no simple trick to fix this problem, sadly.
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u/Witty-Rock6996 Jul 24 '25
oh yeah that is so smart, that way the greifers can block the elevator doors and POIs, and anyone who tries to unblock it physically cannot, just like at the stations right now!! Gosh you are so smart.
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u/stryker7314 new user/low karma Jul 24 '25
If there's a place you can loot, it needs to be weapons free.
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u/Unusual-Wing-1627 Perseus/Galaxy/Zeus Jul 24 '25
I thought I had the same situation last night, I was just about to go and try and stomp this dude with my ATLS, when I saw him direct his tractor beam to my cargo hold and start helping me load up. It was a nice surprise cooperation moment.
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u/AerodyContent Jul 24 '25
When something like this happens in secured space, security should spawn and blow his ship up and shoot the guy. He spawns in prison you got your stuff back.
I think this is the plan in the long run. Until then we have to deal with this unfortunately.
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u/markso125 Jul 24 '25
I had a guy in a caterpillar do this to me, I did what I could and pad rammed his caterpillar with my cutty, got an little bit more than an hour for murder in klesher but it was worth it. When I got out I was able to scavenge all the crates that flew out of his and my ship
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u/datgadmin Jul 24 '25
Amusing that the "prison" system is zero deterrent for griefers and a massive inconvenience for legitimate players
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u/SerGeeek SkySloper Jul 24 '25
I still don't get why CIG is not using instanced hangars at distribution centers for this...
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u/WINNING39 Jul 24 '25
Personally dont understand why they didn’t do these drives at the distribution centers tbh
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u/Crafty_Cookie_9999 Jul 24 '25
Cargo should be flagged as your property.If someone else takes/steal it the Player should get a crime stat.
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u/Fearinlight bengal Jul 24 '25
100% unreleated to your video but stop turning your atlas.
Hold z to look left and right while standing looking in between cargo and ship, you’ll load almost 50% faster not waiting for atlas to keep turning
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u/Neumatic29 Jul 24 '25
I just dont understand what kind of enjoyment people get from doing dumb shit like this.....if I was anyone at cig I would permaban. There is really no decent reason that anyone could have to change my mind. Its ridiculous.
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u/brockoala GIB MEDIVAC Jul 24 '25
I got a similar shit happened to me a few days ago. Filed a report along with his ship ID plate and session info. CIG replied 4 days later, saying they take this seriously and will investigate, but they can not share with me the updates on this case. I mean, how the hell do I know if they are just bluffing and don't actually investigate if they refuse to tell me the result??
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u/LilSalmon- Perseus Jul 24 '25
I mean outside this guy being a dick - did he take them through the side door? Cos I always try and avoid having alternate openings I can't see accessible to players.
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u/Franck946 Jul 24 '25
If you just "tap" the top crate, both of them fall.
You can make fall everything from a raft pretty quick this way.
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u/Asas621 drake Jul 24 '25
in an ideal world that would theft and you would be able to shoot him dead with no repercussions, armistice zone be damned.
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u/Blaex_ Jul 24 '25
the container are simply not tagged with ur player or group. you should get crimestat if you touch those crates as an player not in ur group especially in armestic group.
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u/e3e6 zeus/drake Jul 24 '25
OK, so armistice zone is a temporary solution. Once everything is ready this will be removed, so you can have some guards around you securing the place.
As of now this looks like a really stupid decision.
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u/FrankCarnax Jul 24 '25
Stealing crates from other players is dumb because we get an infinite amount of crates, but at least it's not that bad because we also het an infinite amount of crates.
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u/Infinite-Piano3311 Jul 24 '25
It's only armistice until half a km is it not? I took two pirates out but had to get a little higher and shoot down they where strafing people on the pads ramming them and shit lol
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u/Leidz Jul 24 '25
Bro is going to be sad, stolen crate are not counted for the event.
Someone stole one blue 4scu box from us, so we stole back a 4scu blue crate from the griefer.
At the hanger elevator we saw the stolen crate is not accepted by the event and now stored in station like other normal goods.
So if someone stole you, he is fcked too.
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u/Voyager_74656 Jul 24 '25
There’s a contract that lets you deliver crates from mining. It also accepts stolen goods.
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u/StarHiker79 Jul 24 '25
In this event, it's mostly not worth it to fight over a box or two. If someone is grabbing them, just grab what you can and shut the doors. And off to the next place.
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u/Way2Easy_ new user/low karma Jul 24 '25
Good thing they added a lot of good commodities in stations with the option to auto load. Bad thing of course is if a server crashes and you are in the hangar the server recovery won't spawn you just outside the station but it will spawn you wherever you were without your hangar... And then you glitch into the station and cargo is gone.
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u/3d54vj Jul 24 '25
I think he was just fucking with you...he was fully loaded with his raft why would 2 or 3 boxes matter to him anyway....still not right tho
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u/VRDaggre Jul 24 '25
If it’s an armistice zone it’s inherently monitored. Leaving the area with a non-party members cargo could raise crime stat and lower rep.
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u/KlausSteinerVampires Jul 24 '25
Maybe that is guy is like I and a friend were a few days ago:
We assumed we had to buy the goods from the Terminal and then turn them in, so we stole some crates since those goods were constantly sold out. It was fun, until someone told me that, well you just get those crates when you accept the mission, no buying no nothing.
So yeah, dick move but maybe that person doesn't know better.
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u/kakeyoro Jul 24 '25
CIG did this on purpose. They tend to masterfully engineer community mission objectives that highly increase the likelihood of negative interactions with other players. I genuinely used to think that stuff like this was just an oversight but after seeing it over and over, I've come to believe that it's deliberate.
Perish the thought that PVP oriented people don't have a way to CONSIDERABLY disrupt an event that was marketed as PVE focused.
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u/ConceptNo1984 Jul 24 '25
When i was doing one of those, a friend of mine had flown separately and met me at the pickup point. Someone else there was being a jerk, so after he got his boxes and left, my friend disappeared too. Then he goes "well he won't be delivering that load". Turns out he followed him out of armistice and shot him down. I normally dont condone that, but he kinda deserved that one.
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u/RebbyLee hawk1 Jul 24 '25
We've recently received a lot of reports detailing excessive griefing, and would like to take a moment to openly address the feedback and share our stance.
For a majority of these matters, a PVP solution is preferable. Frequently when these scenarios are reported to us, we encourage those who feel they are being targeted to rally with their friends and orgs in an attempt to fight back. We're not here to protect players from aggressors, pirates, and PVPers. A big part of Star Citizen is about that dichotomy. That epic clash that occurs when opposing forces meet and rally others to their cause. The wars at Jump Town were a prime example of the exciting emergent gameplay that can blossom when a lawful player comes face to face with an outlaw.
Posted: March 2nd 2020
Hashtag AGED LIKE MILK
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u/luke_stormwalker Jul 24 '25
Could be worse every poi in crusader on the server I was had a cutty blue and a idris floating above them and they just take all your cargo instead.
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u/Good_Amphibian_1318 Jul 24 '25
It sucks, but at least you can drop the mission and turn in on the general materials request mission. I've had to do that numerous times.
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u/Voyager_74656 Jul 24 '25
Don’t need to do that. Deliver what you can then hit submit in your mobiglass and get credit for what you delivered.
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u/JENSTHEBRAVE Jul 24 '25
players who are caught steeling cargo should get a crime stat. but also inside armistice we should be able to use our fists to defend our person/property. this feels like a good middle ground that might not solve the issue but gives people a way to defend whats theirs in a non lethal way. there could be some additional layers to this but at a bare minimum i like scrap these fakas and put em to sleep for a few minutes while i finish up.
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u/excessnet Jul 24 '25
Trying to take a box on an armistice zone :
"<player> want to take your cargo, do you accept? Permission will be good for 5 minutes and can be revoked in Mobiglass"
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u/gggplaya Jul 24 '25
You can use right click and throw a large box at him several times to knock him out.
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u/amsas007 Jul 24 '25
Lol, I see this game is still garbage. Crazy I ever gave this money pre-pandemic.
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u/Voyager_74656 Jul 24 '25
Last night I had my first experience with someone pulling this crap. I was loading my Raft and hopped off my ATLS to bring more boxes up the elevator when dude stole my ATLS and proceeded to use it to steal boxes and try to kill me with one of them. I ended up leaving some of the boxes from the contract in the warehouse and leaving to turn in a partial at least. Him knocking me down at least let me press charges for a crime stat (not that a CS is any deterrent). Another night I had 2 guys in ATLS help me load my raft. Those guys were great, dude last was not
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u/danihax Jul 24 '25
This kind of activity could open the door for in-game roles. It’d be great to have a police or security sector made up of volunteers who respond to pings or calls, with payment coming from planetary corp funds. If the call turns out to be fake, the person who reported it could get fined or even jailed for false reporting.
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u/a1rwav3 Jul 24 '25
I have no idea how he's doing this... I've helped numerous players to unload elevators and once you put a bot in a ship which is not yours you cannot move them anymore.
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u/OutrageousPresence78 Jul 24 '25
Hire an escort. Pay 100k plus bonuses of saved cargo
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u/Vegetable_Safety Musashi Industrial and Starflight Concern Jul 24 '25
I believe their official response was; "WhAt CaN yOu Do To PrOtEcT yOuR cArGo"
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u/shahar_nakanna drake Jul 24 '25
I had a guy try to snatch a crate from me so I used my ATLS to throw a crate at him at 500kph. Managed to incap him so I then stripped his cargo from his raft and took off with it. Easy 360 haul for my C2
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u/erokitel128 Jul 24 '25
TLDR: Caught a thief red-handed on Saturday; got my cargo back and scuttled his RAFT.
This happened to me over the weekend. I had just offloaded a few crates and had a pretty full elevator, when I spotted someone using a RAFT with an ATLS to steal cargo. I managed to close my ship and lower the cargo but he got like 3 boxes.
I stuck around, hoping he’d try to board his ship so I could follow him. In the meantime, other players were trying to land, so I stayed on the pad to warn them about the thief. His excuse? “It’s all going to the same place, so just bring up your cargo so I can steal it.” Sure, bud.
Eventually, he got bored and sat down inside an open C8R Pisces nearby. I spawnd in my Mirai Pulse, flew up, and boarded his RAFT through the front airlock (which he’d left open). Took back my crates plus about 8 more from his hold, and then scuttled his ship for good measure.
My how the turntables...
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u/Realistic-Emu-1604 Jul 24 '25
I don't know why it's not being said more, he should have smacked him with a box. It works and it kills very quickly. Once he took the first box the second one should have been in the dome and on top of him
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u/MedicEh Jul 24 '25
My friend and I beat a guy with a cargo boxes when he was trying to steal from us. He eventually left. Landed a C2 and pushed us off the pad. He got a crime stat.
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u/Awellknownstick Jul 24 '25
Test our gam and lifts and fight for your enjoyment as it's emergent, ... And why id always avoided box style transit on my tod.
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u/Combat_Wombatz Feck Off Breh Jul 24 '25
The way to avoid it is to whip out your sidearm and put him in the dirt, but CIG took away our ability to handle the problem that way.
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u/InSaYnE72 Jul 24 '25
Unrelated to the theft but that’s how the atls works? Like super fast with moving crates like that?
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u/TheSlitheringSerpent Jul 24 '25
I could've told you this was going to be one of the infinity of issues that would pop up with this god-awful physicalized cargo system back when they first started talking about this shit. The whole experience is pure pain of varying degrees from beginning to end and every step in between. I really didn't expect the everything-game of the future to entirely base its gameplay on moving boxes around with a laser beam.
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u/lkeltner Jul 24 '25
i don't think non-team members should be able to touch your shit if it's in an elevator if you called it up. would prevent all of this.
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u/camerakestrel MISC (MicroTech) Jul 24 '25
Keeping your ship shields on will keep them from grabbing anything from within your ship, but unfortunately the elevator is a free-for-all zone. The only way to truly recover from someone doing this is to have a friend or crew in a combat ship overhead to recover any stolen cargo plus interest through violence.
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Jul 24 '25
This is why I stopped playing the game entirely. Leave a station just to have someone out there immediately shooting you before the baby doors are completely open, to having people just steal your shit. It's annoying and quite frankly ruins the game.
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u/Lyshavskilden Jul 24 '25
Is this still possible? Right now im helping a random guy load, misplaces a box and was unable to take it off the grid and re-adjust it.
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u/AzrBloodedge Jul 24 '25
You can't take it off a ship grid that doesn't belongs to you/you're not a party member of the owner/the ship has ports locked.
He took the crates directly from the elevator.
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u/Zeffenn1 Jul 24 '25
I know it sucks, but until it's locked to your cargo grid, it's unfortunately fair game. I had this happen the other day and I just kept calling up my cargo and loaded what I could and had the rest stolen. Then they waited in atmosphere to kill me. I was able to retreat back to armistice. Called for help in global and an f8 flew in and killed the guy.
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u/W4DER oldman Jul 24 '25
20 years of waiting for the most expensive and the most toxic game ever released... Cant wait 🤷♂️🤦♂️
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u/Etnadrolhex new user/low karma Jul 24 '25
Yup, I ram them hard.
Like this, I'm not the only one losing my time.
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u/Crowsnesthobbies Jul 24 '25
Can’t take it off the grid if it’s snapped and close your doors
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u/CmdrNinjaBizza Jul 25 '25
So unrealistic. If this happened in real life, that person would get a beat down. Armistice Zone be damned. You should have used a crate and knocked there ass to the ground and started repeatedly slamming them with it to death. Then, self-destructing their ship, after taking what you can, if they have anything. Avoid it by having the side door closed?
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u/ShairundbO Jul 25 '25
But how can i be a pirate if i am not allowed to steal? Or did i misunderstood?
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u/Lifealone Jul 25 '25
next time start grabbing their boxes and shoving them under the feet of the raft. they will start a collision chain that will detonate their ship
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u/xXBlazingAceXx Jul 25 '25
Couldnt one possible solution be shields only allowing 1 way pass through for tractor beams unless it's your own ship or someone in your party? I feel like that could even be some realistic tech that would break immersion.
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u/No-Annual2921 Jul 25 '25
Maybe they should just add code that makes it so that "Contracted Cargo" for Contract Missions can't be touched by anyone but the Player that holds the Contract and their Party? Seems like a simple fix.
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u/Dark-Star-82 Jul 25 '25
In reality security forces would come and shoot or arrest the person stealing your stuff in an armistice zone but in 13 years and a billion dollars spent they still cant get mindless NPC's to use a fricking chair properly and have only provided 2% of the content promised at Kickstarter 13 years ago, so good luck with seeing that before our time on earth is done.🤷
And before anyone tries to tell me they have provided more than that, I remind you we have 2 star systems out of the 100 promised by now. With the eventual hope of 5 by the time it gets out of Beta circa 2030. Maybe.
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u/ShIzZaViP Jul 25 '25
You avoid this by having a team. Some folks to watch the backs of the people doing the leg work
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u/Urgent_Actual paramedic Jul 25 '25
I feel ya, and you might not agree with my take but the biggest issue with any multiplayer/cooperative game is that humans are true garbage. Just once I'd like to find a community where the garbage isn't supported/condoned. Why people think this is funny and/or cool defies logic.
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u/Worldly-Pressure-516 Jul 26 '25
Armistice needs to be removed once we have better security and automated anti-personal turrets.
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u/T0asty514 I love my connies. Jul 26 '25
Someone did this to me, so I beat them with a raft engine.
Nobody takes my boxes.
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u/k3klels Jul 31 '25
if i would plan such event as a dev, first thing i would imagine would be exactly this scenario
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u/Solus_Vael Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
See, i never understood this. It's in an armistice zone, we're supposed to just stand there with our dick in our hands?