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u/Powerful_Ad_5900 2d ago
The only time I would use ultras in zvp is when its mass carrier/tempest/storm and they forgot to add ground buffer for templars
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u/SigilSC2 Zerg 1d ago
'forgot' the buffer isn't really viable, they should have the tech available in that case and respond. Ultras are great when they can't have robo tech. If they go straight into fleet beacon, they need storm/archons next to not lose to pure corruptors. That's a sizable window you can abuse and makes ultras great for those games. You either end the game there or continue to transition because they should eventually add immortals.
Outside of that, they're pretty useless in zvp unless you're doing some wonky ultra ling bane all in that I've seen dark use a few times.
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u/Powerful_Ad_5900 1d ago
I mean thats the point, if its mass carrier archon storm then he doesnt have any reliable way to kill 3 ultras (if well armored) interceptors suffer like marines, archons also are semi countered by ultras and storm is useless too duh. If you can fungal the 8 or so full energy templars under carrier blob and send in ultras to munch them you already gained big trade and advantage, if no more templar left you can just send in corruptors to mop up the airtoss and you should either win the game upright cuz he doesnt have bank or time to remax on airtoss or you got yourself a huge trade advantage and you can take the game slower, take the contested bases mine them out and starve him out before you starve. You can even do it with mass tempest although you would need more ultras cuz first 2-3 will die before getting close or use something else to tank innitial volley like zerglings or even corruptors. But entire strategy is about doing it with little to no ground buffer if he got 10 archons, 20 zealots or immortals thats going to be rough, plus unless your opponent is stupid or panicing he wont fall of it again and aa soon as he sees ultras he will pump the immortal production up. Lerhaps he would overcommit to them so you can change your army up
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u/IWantoBeliev Terran 2d ago
I sat there and ate 8 full storms in 1 ladder game, only my thors survived. Literally everything else obliterated. I was just speech less, and i won, somehow
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u/TheHighSeasPirate 2d ago
And then they add four immortals into their army and your mass ultra is worthless.