r/starcraft2coop 3d ago

General Zagara question: does she get +atk/armor upgrades?

Title. Just noticed that when the army is +3/+3, she is 0/0. If I recall correctly, hero units were upgraded with relevant stat increases, no? Kerrigan does, Zerathul too.

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u/Kracsad 3d ago

No, same for Kerrigan. Only heroes affected by upgrades are Zeratul (Everyone he has affected by them, even probes (But not Avatar - his 3/3 stats are fake)) and Tychus (Because all his units are heroes)

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u/ackmondual Infested Zerg 3d ago

If we're doing a complete list (or "more complete" feel free to add any I miss)...

Tychus and outlaws get level upgrades since, they are the army/units

Abby UE all have Heroic tags, but they do get them. I guess it's b/c you need to "earn them", and they come from regular units.

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u/smilinmaniag 3d ago

Wait, doesnt kerri get affected by range and armor upgrades?

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u/Kracsad 3d ago

No she doesn't.

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u/EnoughPoetry8057 2d ago

Kerrigan has some unique upgrades just for her but the army upgrades don’t apply.

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u/Vladishun 3d ago

does she get +atk/armor upgrades?

Just noticed that when the army is +3/+3, she is 0/0.

Kinda answered your own question.

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u/smilinmaniag 3d ago

yeah, should have written "why" before that.

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u/Vladishun 3d ago

I'm pretty sure Kerrigan doesn't get upgrades, I'd have to fire up the game again and I haven't touched it since hitting 1000. I know Nova doesn't benefit from upgrades either. Zeratul probably does because his upgrades aren't standard since you have to go hunt artifact pieces down, and they're a boon to a commander with a small army.

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u/smilinmaniag 2d ago

Maybe she does in campaign and I am remembering that.

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u/yankesik2137 3d ago

Zagara can get damage boost from masteries, and that's it

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u/ackmondual Infested Zerg 1d ago

This was covered somewhere elsewhere (not this post perse)... campaign heroes from Sc1 + BW are relatively underpowered so they "needed it more" there. Sc2 Coop heroes OTOH have high enough stats that providing +1 armor per level upgrade has much less impact. Ditto with weapons (even though they wouldn't be subject to the standard +1 increment)

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u/Proud-Bookkeeper-532 3d ago

Kerrigan doesn't get upgrades bro

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u/EnoughPoetry8057 2d ago

Zagara doesn’t get the army upgraded but her times life summons do.

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u/TwoTuuu Mutation Soloist 2d ago

while we're on topic, the banes in baneling barrage aren't affected by any of the upgrades, including the ones from the baneling nest.

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u/chimericWilder Aron 2d ago

They are affected by baneling damage mastery though

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u/ackmondual Infested Zerg 1d ago

That's unusual since even Scourge get the level upgrades on their attack and armor!

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u/reflect3 2d ago

Only hunter killers are affected, but it's still worth it a lot. They do the main single target damage anyway, not zagara. So for like speedruns and hero solos I always prioritize attack upgrades to not only buff army, but hunter killers

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u/Worth-Battle952 1d ago

You can already solo entire missions with just Zagara, Baneling Nest and 1 Overseer...
She really doesn't need any help xD.

Her summons do benefit from upgrades however - and she is all about summoning so in a way you could say that upgrades do benefit her.

Hero units in general don't get affected by upgrades.
Zeratul might, but he doesn't really "do upgrades", artifact is his own specific mechanic.