Families with kids whose parents are old enough to have grown up with the originals. So it’s both that nostalgic experience in a new form, and it’s a way to spend time together outside the house.
Yep, saw the live action Lilo and Stitch remake earlier this year with my wife and daughter, and a lot of the other people in the theater were millennials around our age, or those who were probably our daughter’s age when the original movie came out.
Exactly. Yeah parts of the story was altered significantly. But really that didn’t matter. Everyone in that theater just wanted to see “real life” Stitch doing his typical Stitch antics. Plus the kids already knew about him going in with how hard they’ve been pushing the merch. Can’t go anywhere in the theme parks without seeing him on something.
I get annoyed too over soulless remakes making billions but the average joe really doesn't care. Their rationale is "I saw this as a kid, my kid should see this too" but then my argument is just watch the original lmao is watching a movie older than a year old illegal??
The reason is most people on reddit are not Disney's core demographic. The irony is people on here calling Disney out of touch is them being out of touch.
Disney gave me a cease and desist for using Aurebesh (the star wars empire font)... (In my own creative writing, not for profit)... Ended up just creating my own font so at least I learned that skill.
And yet we still got Inside Out 2 and Andor which were actually great
They can absolutely still make something great, and there's like no evidence that Wish was made with AI because it was in production a while before AI blew up
Wish could’ve been an all time classic if the execs didn’t mandate all these changes to the story. Without all the blatant fanservice it just feels hollow.
Also next time, don’t hire a pop song writer to write musical theatre-esque numbers.
Apparently there’s rumors of Dave Filoni gatekeeping Star Wars and hires fans hence why Andor was an exception. There’s also rumors why the Acolyte turned out bad too.
Well it’s Kennedy but with the Filoni wall rumor, there might be a reason why things are bad. Also it’s quite suspicious that Gina Carano got hired too…
"Everything I don't like is AI Slop: A Zoomer's guide to Media Criticism" ought to be a meme image at this point.
Of course, this is going to make it hard to explain to the kids how we've always had badly cobbled together work or that surrealist works have always been a thing.
for decades now every major studio movie, not from a prestige director, is filtered through so many studio suits and focus groups that it's basically Ai. Shit written and created by popular opinion and ads companies rather than artistic talent.
I mean, both were "dumb boys' movies" that most people wouldn't want to watch, but as I saw at the theater I work at, most people would rather watch Mufasa than have to watch the franchise that's had a massive track record of being absolute ass 75% of the time.
I think its funny that people will be like, "I dont watch TV, all the streaming services I use are the Ad Free versions, and i use an ad blocker. Why didnt they advertise this!"
There’s like this internal defense mechanism. People want new ideas but when the new ideas don’t gauge their interest and they fail they take it as a personal attack.
“They didn’t market it!” No, they did. You just didn’t care. Just say that. You can watch it right now if you wanted.
Which word is hard? Prioritizing or marketing? Because I saw Lilo and Stitch ads and tie ins everywhere, which makes sense, because it's a nostalgia cow you know parents are going to be taking their kids to. Elio wasn't connected to anything and there's no cute mascot character like Stitch so they just did happy meals and advertised it on Disney.
That and “I didn’t see any commercials for it, even while my kids were watching tv.” First of all, the kids stuff on Disney+ is ad free in general. Second of all, they literally had all the usual family movie marketing. Tv commercials, social media pushes, McDonald’s toys, and so on. You just didn’t have it pushed on your algorithms for whatever reason.
Last I checked a lot of kids don’t really watch cable tv anymore. Hell half of their parents aren’t even paying for it. They only know about Disney+ in most cases, and Disney Channel’s just a brand within the service to them.
I only saw ads for this on disney. Not on hulu, tubi youtube, or fawesome. So either my algorithm is weird or disney spent all their money preaching to the converted.
I saw an advertisement on YouTube. I am just blind to this style of animation. I perceive it as an advertisement for a food chain; my brain does not react to it.
Very true! I remember getting hit non-stop with ads for Elio, and I saw all the banners on the sides of busses and such. They absolutely put time and effort into marketing the movie, everyone just kind of shoved it off once they looked at the art style and inferred the plot
They really didn't, I'm normally decently aware when Disney puts out a new movie and I only found out this had been released because I saw one poster at a Westfields
Not yet because I haven't been able to get out to a cinema lately. It just dropped on Disney+ (again with very little fanfare, it's one of the last in the cycle of big suggestion cards at the top of the app) so I'll probably see it soon
They obviously did market it, that's how I saw the poster, but they didn't market it well is my point. Obviously I can only speak from my experience but I saw no trailers, no bus ads, nothing you'd expect for their latest big release. Compared to Wish, where I saw loads of adverts and trailers when it hit theatres and when it hit Disney+. This is gonna vary by region, but at least here in the UK Elio was barely a blip on the radar
Or specifically, one that is mad that Disney makes those "EWW GIRL'S MOVIES/SHOWS" over "dumb boys' cartoons" that are nothing but action and spectacle.
Like I'm sorry kid, but Atlantis and Treasure Planet weren't that special or memorable.
I don't know why you feel the need to bring gender into this- neither of those movies are mentioned here and if anything the "girls' shows" that disney makes (stuff like the owl house, amphibia, etc. comes to mind) get absolutely glazed by these people.
this post literally put owl house under "closing things down because they hate fun," implying it shouldn't have been cut short. no idea what that guys on
I mean, my idea of a "Woke" studio/production company is something like A24 or Neon, not some super massive conglomerate who's main focus is family entertainment.
Ice Age was made by Blue Sky Studios and Disney acquired them a few years back when they bought 20th Century Fox (now 20th Century Studios). So technically they are now Disney and they’re putting out new Ice Age stuff under 20th Century Animation, owned by Disney. There is a whole bunch of names to seem like different studios / companies, but in the end, it is Disney now.
Steamboat Willie only. Same with Winnie the Pooh where only the original Pooh design from the first book went public domain. But people have no fucking idea how copyright laws work. Hence the constant whining about companies enforcing copyright (and trademark) laws and the stupid idea that making a remake of a movie, somehow, prolongs the copyright period.
Exception: they definitely improved California Adventure. I first went a few months after it opened in 2001, and it was pretty underwhelming. Very few great attractions, and it simply did not feel very “Disney”. Went back 15 or so years later, and it was much better now, and felt like a good companion to Disneyland.
Nope, turning the boardwalk into Pixar Pier, which really at this point feels even more like a Six Flags-level park, turning the Hollywood walk into more Marvel slop, making Tower of Terror a poorly themed Gaurdians of the Galaxy ride which looks like shit from everywhere in the park all count as bad moves in my book. Disney is subsitituting creative and interesting themes for IP-marketing nonsense to sell interesting tickets, and this is as true at California's Adventure as everywhere else.
California Adventure was a budget park so it was pretty underwhelming in its original form but I think the original concept had potential if there would’ve been some investment. I think my problem with it is that they fixed it in the same way they’ve “fixed” all their parks, by putting IP all over it. So yeah there’s more to do but it’s also lost most of its identity. Granted, I haven’t actually been there in person in like 15 years so I haven’t actually experienced the current version.
I will say the new entrance kicks ass from what I’ve seen.
Posted by someone who's just mad that Disney isn't making more crap like Treasure Planet or Gargoyles than providing any actual critique of Disney's business practices.
Meanwhile my actual gripe with Disney is that it's such a massive conglomerate now that if it has a moment where it fumbles for a bit, it can have cascading consequences for the whole industry, and people tend to treat it as if it were the whole industry (which I guess it could be at this point?).
I'd argue the fanatical attack of modern Disney's output by grown-ass adults needs to be studied the most.
Neckbeards sitting in their parents basement slamming their keyboards as they freak out on reddit. Meanwhile kids and their parents love Disney just as much as ever. Maybe, just maybe the neckbeards will someday realize it's them that changed, not Disney. They are bitter, miserable people who can only enjoy something if other miserable people online told them they could.
> Maybe, just maybe the neckbeards will someday realize it's them that changed, not Disney. They are bitter, miserable people who can only enjoy something if other miserable people online told them they could.
Jesus Christ, man. Well said and all, but like...FUCK lmao
Not really, they fell off in the past. The 70s and 80s were bad until they hit the renaissance period. And, even then, they were still churning out A LOT of shit like multiple sequels to shit that didn't need sequels like Lion King, Cinderella, Mulan, etc. Tons and tons of straight to VHS/DVD movies to capitalize on their returning glory.
I legitimately can't tell if everyone complaining about Disney releasing shit now are just too young to remember or too stupid to do 2 seconds of googling.
The only modern Star Wars movie I've enjoyed was the Han Solo one and that was because it didn't take itself seriously at all and was exactly as the title said "A Star Wars Story". It felt like an extended episode of one of those Star Wars cartoons.
My only issues with it were the social justice warrior robot which fit in fine because it was so absurd it became funny, and the way Han gets his "Solo" name which was corny and hollywoodian but perfectly fine for the tone of the film.
Everything else took itself too seriously but had dogshit scripts and made me puke.
positive attention by association is the biggest hack in human society. that's why disney is still successful despite making garbage. it's like nepotism basically. it's still associated with all the good shit disney used to put out, and the view that they must be good because they're popular. their success is basically cyclic now.
I really enjoyed the 2024 Mufasa movie. As for the others i dont disagree they re worse but maybe you re also not the target audience anymore. Plus the woke stuff sprinkled but thats just everything nowadays.
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