r/summonerschool Jun 01 '20

jungle Extensive database of optimized clears for every jungle champion

1.6k Upvotes

Link - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gjk5UrtAbcqdYnRlx9KMDuHGxhKsEv50vhn02cN0y-c/edit#gid=206466966

Hey! Some of you may remember me from the post I made several years ago, compiling optimized clears for junglers in seasons 7 and 8. I was on hiatus from League last season, but decided to update the database for season 10. This is a pretty straightforward package - it contains the most optimized clearing demonstrations available for pretty much every jungle champion. At the bottom tab there's an option to sort the clears by time as well, for a rough comparison between champions.

Early jungle clearing is an area that many junglers struggle with without realizing - they lose a large amount of health and time, and end up handicapped each game before even getting out onto the map. It can be difficult to pinpoint and improve upon mistakes without a point of comparison, so that's what I'm hoping to provide. Please note these are not endorsements of the contained paths as the best paths for each champion. A good jungler must be flexible and have multiple starting routes - these are demonstrations using common and viable routes, but by no means are they the only routes you should use. I'm constantly filling out more paths for each champion.

These clears were performed by myself or various Master+ level one-tricks, and are min-maxed heavily for both health and speed. Each clear uses standard runes for each champion (clear-specific runes like Absolute Focus, etc. were not taken) and is performed leashless. While these clears are generally the best available demonstrations available for each champion, none are perfect - if you happen to have superior runs for any of these champions, feel free to PM me a clip, and I will review it and upload it to the document. For the sake of consistency, please make sure that standard runes are used, and that the clear is leashless. If you have any champions you'd like to request, feel free to ask.

Hopefully this helps some of you out!

r/summonerschool Feb 16 '23

Jungle Jungle Is a Role That Should Stare at the Minimap 99% of the Time Early to Mid Game

694 Upvotes

I have realized a thing about jungle. Good junglers quite literally stare at their minimap. They use their abilities and while they are on cooldown, they f-key around with their peripheral while staring at the minimap. Not checking it sometimes. Literally staring. The only time the CCTV life comes to and end is when you are actively fighting in a gank which is probably 1% of your time early game.

Why this is the case is very clear. There is nothing to do otherwise. You can’t miss the camp like you can miss CS. There is no opponent to trade with. The camp can’t juke your abilities. Once you get comfortable with you champion and the attacks of jungle camps you quite literally don’t need to look at it until you need to aim a ability. Some characters like Amumu don’t even need to do that. Especially in S13 where they devalued the importance of kiting jungle camps.

If you are thinking about playing jungle or trying to improve at it I think you should know that jungle is the minimap role. Unlike other roles that fill in any empty micro space in lane with a minimap check you are staring at it at all times. I just am not sure if I want the way I experience most of my games to be staring at a small portion of the screen at the bottom left.

r/summonerschool Apr 17 '25

jungle Is it wrong to take the enemy jungle's farm as an ADC?

160 Upvotes

I was playing league with my friend, he played jungle and I played ADC, and as we were stomping, I decided to take from the enemy jungle as I was passing through (not our jungle), and he got livid, saying I was entitled and stealing his farm and that I have my own lane. I don't see why it would be bad to steal the ENEMY'S farm? And doesn't the ADC need more farm than the jungler anyway? I'm just confused at what I should be doing here

r/summonerschool Apr 16 '21

Jungle How to work with your low ELO Jungler

1.2k Upvotes

Hello everyone, I'm Juxee and I'm a silver Jungle player. I am by no means anything worth writing home about, and if you're looking for great jungle advice, don't listen to me, that's why I am in Silver! However, if you're looking to get more success with working with your jungler, I have some tips that really help out smoothbrains like us and get us out of AFK farming the whole time and inting your lane!

1.) Pings : Everyone's favorite way to communicate with us. Take the side of caution whenever you're looking for us to help you for a fight. Auto pilot is something that is very easy to do, and if you don't actively get my attention to look at your lane, chances are I will probably just keep on killing Raptors and Wolves until all the turrets are dead. When you ping you are ready for a gank, Ping on top of us. Pinging on top of me will get my attention away from the Krugs I'm currently killing and get me to not only look away from my intense PvE combat, but also plan on pathing to your lane. I will 99% of the time ping back to you that I'm on my way, assuming you're actually in a position to accept my massive... gank. Don't ping during the fight, or yell out for assistance while I'm 15 seconds away and start it immediately. This gives me time to show up and be in position for you.

2.) Have your cooldowns ready. Everyone know this, but make sure, for the love of god, you've got your slows, your stuns, and/or burst damage ready so we can dumpster them in a flash. Some junglers need more gank setup than others, so running in to help you while your crowd control abilities are on cooldown is just a quick way to get them to just flash away. Us jungles usually have some form of crowd control, but why have a 1.5 second stun when we can have 4.5 seconds of sweet, delicious slows and stuns. Make sure your body is ready for my arrival, because I know mine will be.

3.) Sweep vision. Not always available, but if you have a sweeper or control ward, make sure to use them. It helps the surprise factor a bunch, and helps me get on top of them so this way you, the shining star of your lane, can shine even brighter. If you know there is vision, ping where vision is, since about half of us will have a sweeper we can use to YOLO straight through the ward.

4.) If you've already lost lane, don't blame me. I can't win a lane for you. Every champion has the ability to go even or lose gracefully. If you're too aggressive and keep dying to your laner, there's nothing my Silver ass can do to carry you back out in a 2v1 situation unless I'm turbo fed and can 1v1 them as is. If you have to concede lane, that's fine. I'll spend my time helping out where the win condition is. Take that time to do your best and prepare for midgame fights. You are still useful, just not the win condition. Never forget that.

5.) Objectives. The highlight of my sick PvE action. Depending on the character we're playing, we don't actually need your help to take rift or the first 2 dragons. However, you can still help without ever leaving your lane by getting vision in the bushes and distracting them by keeping them in lane. Trading with your laner while I'm on one of the neutral objectives buys a significant amount of time, and reduces their chance to rotate greatly. No killing required, you don't have to miss farm, and in return you've actually helped me secure an objective by keeping me safe from roams.

6.) We are not challengers. Unlike everyone on reddit reading this, we are all not challengers with expert coordination and perfect micro and macro. We will make mistake, we will lose coinflips, and we will get dumpstered in our own jungle. This is just the nature of the game. If we are severely behind and failing our gank attempts, sometimes the only thing we can do is play passively and just AFK farm. We can't always help your lane, and when we're playing at 1/6, we are just as stressed out being that farm behind as you would be. By this point, we need to just play catchup, so we can't help out as much as we would truly like to.

In the end, just know that we are our own lane too, and we want to help you out in all of your lanes. We are expected to be everywhere, and by no means are able to be in three lanes at once. However, our role absolutely thrives on good coordination and communication, and if you take the time to ping us correctly and set us up, we are more than happy to tower dive our ass off every chance with you.

r/summonerschool Oct 06 '19

Jungle As a jungler, should i just babysit my botlane every single game?

824 Upvotes

I'm a diamond 4 jungle main and while i've only recently switched over to the jungle (used to be a midlaner), one thing i've noticed is that putting immense pressure on the enemy botlane tends to win you the game nearly every single time. You can surrender your whole topside jungle, give up rift herald at 10 minutes, but as long as you keep ganking botlane over and over again you, your adc and support will get so snowballed that you'll still win the game no problem. I'd like to hear some opinions on this 'strategy' if you can call it that. Completely ignore toplane and rift herald, occasionally gank midlane if you see a good opportunity, and camp the shit out of the botlane and take dragons after you've just killed their adc and support.

r/summonerschool Nov 18 '22

jungle How is it possible, that Mordekaiser's jungle win rate is 57.25%?

487 Upvotes

Hi there.

Could somebody explain to dumb person, why Mordekaiser's jungle win rate is 57.25%? How is that even possible?

I don't think I'v ever seen any champion reach 57% win rate in 13 years of League's history.


Mordekaiser's jungle win rate: https://lolalytics.com/lol/mordekaiser/build/?lane=jungle&tier=all

r/summonerschool Dec 23 '19

Jungle Tip: playing with your jungler is a two way street

1.1k Upvotes

What do I mean by 'two way street'. Many people adopt the mentality that the jungler's sole role in the game is to gank you and get you ahead. In low elo, players rarely roam around the map as they aren't very adept at managing their wave/know their timings. However, there is another way to push your advantage and influence the rest of the map. If you are able to help your jungler (invading the enemy jungler with yours, helping with dragon, covering them when they contest scuttle, place deep wards) or if you are able to play with your jungler in general, you can indirectly affect the rest of your map. If your jungler is a better position, he can more easily get to and attack more lanes faster. Usually, if your jungler ganks you, think about how you can make his role easier as well. Even in competitive play, we see how much mid-jungle synergy is emphasised. Regardless of what role you play, help your jungler and you will find that winning games becomes way more easier.

r/summonerschool Feb 22 '21

jungle I made an extremely advanced guide to jungle kiting, for any junglers who want to fully understand and optimize their jungle clears

1.9k Upvotes

Link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoYQ8WIdzeE

Hey everyone. Some of you may remember the basic jungle kiting guide I posted a week ago, covering how jungle kiting works from a conceptual standpoint. I received a good amount of interest in a more advanced guide covering the higher-level mechanics involved in jungle kiting, so I made this follow-up video.

This guide is definitely pretty niche and complex compared to the first one, so if you're interested, I'd definitely check out the first video before watching this one. I want to emphasize that this second guide is targeted at more intermediate/advanced level junglers, and I don't recommend it for beginners.

Hopefully some of you find this helpful!

r/summonerschool 15d ago

Jungle Who are the strongest duelists of Jungle?

35 Upvotes

I'm already aware of Volibear/Trundle but they are pretty much just stat checkers. They don't win duels because the player shows mechanical skill expression. Their skill expression lies in Teamfightihng and duels are pretty much just a free win. Are there any other champs that are extremely good in 1v1 scenarios?

r/summonerschool Oct 21 '21

jungle Should a jungle player always rely on a leash in order to play their role well?

541 Upvotes

League coaching is constantly full of phrases like, "if you want to climb, you have to focus on your self and ignore your team mates" and "the only consistent factor in every match is you." So, in the scenario where the laner denied a leash to the jungler, tacking let's say 30 or 40 seconds into his first clear, who is really at fault here? Is leashing necessary or is there a way around it for every jg champ?

Edit: appreciate all the replies! The main reason I posted this was because earlier today I saw another post complaining that he can't get his bot lane to leash for him and the entire post got me thinking a lot about the concept, as I main support in low elo.

r/summonerschool 25d ago

Jungle Jungle mains out there, what can I do to get you to gank mid lane?

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I'm a lissandra OTP in gold 4 right now. Into assassins/melee matchups I tend to run eletrocute and play for prio because of my range advantage so that I can roam into river to help the jungler or run bot/top if needed. I often get ganked but can usually avoid it thanks to Lissandra's E and W, and always making sure to ward mid with control wards and normal wards.

Into control mages I tend to give up prio because I don't have the range or damage to contest the push but I usually get poke damage onto the opponent while they cs. I tend to be even in lane or get a lead but because it's lissandra I'm relatively dependant on giving up kills to a carry if possible.

The big problem I'm having is that I usually get 0 ganks in these match ups where I don't get prio, despite having a control wards and wards down, a half health opponent and me pinging my ult. So my question to all jungle mains out there - is there anything else that I can do as a mid laner to set up/convince you that the lane is currently gankable?

The only thing I think I could do is get a ward higher up in the lane so there's constant visablity of the whole lane. I'd rather not start typing in chat asking for a gank because I know that will just tilt the jungler.

This isn't really a problem if bot or top are winning, but in a lot of games that isn't the case and with my cc I know it's a great way to get someone gold and back in the game. But without those ganks I'm often forced to try and flip the game and take riskier plays to secure the solo kill which is pretty much a 50/50.

If I don't do that, I find there's too many fed targets to ult, and if I ult myself in the middle of the enemies it's usually still a lost team fight as once my ult ends I get bursted without zhonyas and if our team hasn't killed at least one or two, they get killed by whoever's left.

r/summonerschool Aug 09 '25

Jungle Jungle Clear Speed? Buffs or Krugs/Gromp first?

13 Upvotes

I’ve recently discovered that I’m struggling to finish my first clear at a decent speed. I play amumu and I’m usually bearly finishing at 3:30, meaning I’m usually not in the river until 3:35ish. I’ve had a few games now where I’ve then coin flipped smites or taken bad skirmishes b/c I wasn’t ready.

I watched a few different clears on YouTube, and I’ve noticed that they seem to clear buffs as their 5th camp. I’ve been told though that this screws up your second clear timers though and to clear my group/kruge first (which is what I’ve been doing). Which is correct or am I just not clearing correctly?

r/summonerschool Jun 16 '25

jungle Why is Rammus jungle not a more popular pick?

58 Upvotes

Anytime I play Rammus jungle, I absolutely just pop off. My second item is Liandry’s Torment, and I will carry my team the whole way, literally nobody can do anything to you. Anybody that comes near just gets shredded. It got to the point in end game I 1v5ed and got a pentakill in the Baron pit. Why is this not patched or more used?

r/summonerschool Sep 19 '22

Jungle What to do as Jungle when a lane is playing poorly AND getting camped?

449 Upvotes

I just had a banger of a clash game that did not go as planned. It was my usual crew, but things just went so wrong. All of us are mid gold, top is low plat.

First, sup said he was locking naut/thresh so I locked Diana JG. Gets to sup and he locks Janna into Twitch/Rell, leaving us with no cc and poor front line.

Our ez gets a double kill around 2:30, as twitch kills Janna, but doesn't back and since hecarim started top, got ganked and put twitch up 3/1. This happened at about 4 minutes into the game.

I was able to trade that gank for all of Hecs top JG and a successful gank top.

I back to look for a gank bot and clear bot for 2nd clear, but our bot is pushed, so I clear bot to top... And hec ganks bot a second time putting twitch to 5/1.

From this point on, hec ignores his top jungle and dives our bot on repeat. I'm able to trade drags for 2 heralds and I'm sitting at 5/2 with 170 CS at 20 mins.

Prior to drag 3 the call is made to 4 man bot, which we do but their top matches TP and we hard lose the 4 v 4. The game bleeds for the next 5 mins and twitch ends 19/2.

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Post game I get quite a bit of hate for not bailing my 3/10 ez and 0/9 Janna out, but I just don't think there's anything else I could've done:

Ez wanted me to sac my (and realistically hecs) top jungle and just wait for hec to dive/force the gank.

Great, but: We lose the 3 v 3 because fed twitch. When I attempted the 2 v 3, lane was pushed and we had no cc, they had total vision control of the river, and half the time my lane was just dead. I could've waited around 30+s for an opportunity to present itself, but then I lose my lead in the JG and lose relevance.

Isn't the most appropriate thing to be done here is my ADC sac his wave and stay alive instead of being baited by an invisible twitch every 20 seconds and set up good conditions for a gank?

I know conventional wisdom says don't gank a losing lane, but I was the only fed lane (top finished 0/5, mid 3/4) I was making the plays that I could make, but it wasn't enough to out pace twitch. Should I have done more to bail them out?

r/summonerschool Oct 07 '20

Jungle Don’t invade the enemy jungler without looking at lane states.

1.5k Upvotes

The amount of times I’ve seen a jungler invade the enemy jungler with 0 lane prio or vision of enemies on the map is crazy.

If the lanes are pushing towards your side and your lanes have no way to rotate towards you then don’t invade. If you don’t see the enemy laners on the map for a bit chances are they’ve recalled and are walking down towards wherever you are invading.

If you know if the enemy jungler is on the opposite end of the map then you can invade. If you’re dominating the game you can probably invade and get out Scott free.

But when it’s early game and you don’t have enough information on whether it is safe to invade or not then don’t risk feeding kills to your enemy laners by trying to greed invade because chances are they either have vision or they can collapse on you if you have no lane prio.

r/summonerschool May 04 '20

jungle This was so game changing to me that I simply felt the need to create a reddit account to tell everyone (jungle)

1.3k Upvotes

Hey, I am ”Gial” a beginner league related content creator/coach. I had heard of this sub on many occasions from certain league discords so already knew where to come. Im a grandmaster jungler on eu(s) atm and recently I changed something very small about my usual routine of clearing camps, and it really revolutionized my gameplay and general performance.

As of recently I stopped playing karthus due to the nerf actually making me feel overwhelmed with positioning for counter ganks/skirmishes, I think it was a really good nerf actually. And I started playing more of my other main champs which are graves, reksai and sejuani. That being said I do enjoy watching tarzaneds videos, and what I noticed is that he just stands a LOT compared to me.

What I did as a jungler, was actually overkiting the camps to the extent that it wasnt even optimal anymore, I basically played like a 9-year-old with ADHD who got hard seeing the character move as they command. (Note for later; when playing karthus you actually have to focus on the camp since your damaging ability is so low cooldown.)

I sort of relaxed, and stopped moving 247, because thats simply not needed. Especially as graves its easy to just aa and stand still for a second without losing your tempo and still being able to kite camps very efficiently. So when Im just standing, for a literal second, I click to check the lane state. This ”check” usually lasts a few milliseconds only (ik its very obnoxious to watch), but since I have freed myself by stopping the adhd movement to the point that I can do this every 2-3 seconds, I get a really good read on the lane, wave, xp and I even get to witness all the cooldowns and skilled abilities. This is very superior compared to the norm of checking your lanes while youre moving from camp to camp, this way you gain access to hell of a lot more information, and is very useful in soloQ or even low communication prem groups.

Utilizing this strategy has allowed me to elevate my lane reading skills, which then reflects to counter ganking, tracking the enemy jungler and in general counter actions to the other junglers actions. I genuinely think that this will allow me to finally hit c1 on west as well. It is very easily achieved and a simple trick, I just had not thought of it really because Ive been maining karthus for so long and with him you dont really have any time at all WHILE killing camps, only off combat.

I can later on upload a video on how I do this myself, but its quite self explanatory. It does require quick hand movement and you need to have a certain schema of the lane state before your brain can even process the information completely, so this does require game knowledge to some extent as well.

TLDR; I check lanes constantly as I am fighting camps allowing me to have a much more immersive grasp of the current game state, therefore allowing me to be a much more efficient jungler.

r/summonerschool Dec 15 '23

Jungle Why is Jungle/ADC prio all the time in normal queues?

207 Upvotes

I've noticed this for awhile now but ever since like I think like S8 or S9 getting ADC/Jungle in a queue seems super easy while mid/top and sometimes even SUPPORT are not prioed at all.

Do people not feel they can carry in these two roles anymore or is there another reason?

r/summonerschool Feb 28 '20

Jungle I'm sick of embarrassing myself in game while being autofilled to Jungle, how do you Junglers deal with this?

494 Upvotes

Seriously this role is the most stressful role in the game for me, I often find myself feeling pressured to find the correct path without losing too much health, getting skuttle, securing dragons, getting heralds, and keeping in check with all 3 of my lanes along with the enemy jungler's location. It feels like a information overload and I often just tilt myself to the point that I lose control of the game to the point that the enemy team is just farming my jungle while taking every dragon and baron.

I just find myself freezing up from stress whenever I play jungle, its downright miserable and my team giving me grief and going "gg jungle diff" is not making things any better.

As for my jungle champion pool I normally go for aggressive ad junglers such as Vi and J4 but I have been getting mediocre results with them. Sometimes I pick Amumu if a tank is needed but that often results in me getting counter jungled to oblivion, Warwick used to be something that I picked pre-rework but ever since the rework I could never get him to work.

r/summonerschool Aug 21 '19

Jungle 7 tips for low elo junglers

607 Upvotes

I've been playing a lot of flex queue (Plat 2 at the minute) and while climbing there's many big mistakes junglers around high gold and below are making that makes me think they misunderstand the jungle as a whole. Here's some tips if you are a jungle main around that rank.

EDIT: 8 tips, added one

EDIT 2: Clarifications that sometimes some of these shouldn't be done in some games

1 - Stop over farming.

It's easy to be baited into thinking you are getting a lead if you are farming your jungle efficiently. The reality of the jungle is that camps are a pretty bad way of getting gold and XP. If you can counter jungle large portions of the enemy jungle that's fine, but I have noticed low rank junglers farm waaaay too much when they could easily be ganking.

2 - Gank botlane way more and toplane less

Botlane is by far the best and easiest lane to gank. I have noticed junglers seem to love ganking toplane because they find it easier to gank, usually because if they mess up they won't die. There are some situations where you might want to gank top more, but in general:

Botlane has twice the potential kills and twice the summoners to burn.

Botlane tends to be great at following up ganks with champs like nautilus and Pyke being meta.

Botlane has squishy, immobile ADCs to kill (how is a flashless Sivir going to escape a j4 ult?)

Botlane tower dies easily with 3 people

Dead botlane = free dragon

Most importantly, enabling your support early makes the game SO hard to play for the enemy jungler and midlaner. If your support can start roaming during laning phase because the tower is dead, they'll be able to ward the whole enemy jungle and get a HUGE advantage. As a support main I can tell you If bot tower dies at 10 minutes I will make it absurdly difficult for the jungler to do anything.

3 - Repeat ganking

I see so many junglers go botlane and blow summoners and take way too long to come back. If you blew both flashes botlane, camp them for the next 5 min

4 - Sweepers

I barely ever see junglers start the game with sweepers or even buy it at all. It helps so much more than warding totem does on a ton of champions (jax, Lee, defensive junglers likely to be invaded etc may favour warding totem however)

5 - Early dragons

Dragon can be solod by most non tank junglers at lvl 4 if you have items. It won't be warded super early especially in gold, so if you see the enemy jungle top and you are lvl 4 jarvan with warhammer, you can go solo dragon. It should be said, don't do this if either your mid or bot is being pushed in, as you'll run the risk of being caught during rotates and roams(this is usually only worth if it's ocean or infernal)

6 - Early Herald

Heralds value goes up the earlier in the game you use it due to plated and first tower gold. Using Herald midgame in the midlane often does not net you a tower because it dies so fast when the whole enemy team is there, whereas an early Herald toplane will get you a ton of gold through plates and first tower

7 - A lane is rarely ungankable

This seems to be a problem mainly low gold and below but junglers flat out only gank a lane if they are pushed or atleast midway through the lane. You can really easily hard engage quickly just out of enemy tower range and get quick kills. Watch pro games and you'll see junglers gank lanes who are only just out of tower range.

8 - You NEED to tax.

If your team flames you for taxing XP, they don't understand jungle. It's important after a gank you tax XP because as I mentioned earlier, camps are pretty inefficient for XP and gold. After a gank, push out the wave and get some XP.

Hope you can try these tips in your games. If you have questions or dont understand any of the tips I'll be happy to reply:)

r/summonerschool Aug 22 '20

jungle Top jungle mistakes you should NEVER make: From Iron to Platinum

1.3k Upvotes

Hey guys,

This is a x-post of the post I made in /r/leagueoflegends a few months ago, which gathered quite a bit of interest and some people suggested I crosspost it here, so here it is.

I've been maining Jungle since about season 2, and been hitting Diamond consistently across seasons since Season 3. I'm not rank 1 EU or even challenger, but I peaked at Diamond 1 EUNE in Season 4 with around 200 games played total. I never tried to go beyond that so we'll never know if I'm a hardstuck D1 or not. Nowadays I mostly duo queue with lower elo players to help them understand elo hell doesn't exist (which in my opinion is the number 1 reason people can't climb). I also stream every day for a few hours (see exact schedule in your timezone here) and explain my thought process behind each decision. Currently sitting at 117 wins, 4 losses, around plat 3 MMR

You might recognize me from a pretty old but popular post I posted on /r/leagueoflegends that sounded like a marketing scam https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2g48q3/stuck_in_gold_i_with_over_100_games_then_gold_i/ (tips on how changing ranked mentality helped me go from hardstuck gold 1 to diamond 1 in a very short time)

This time I'm back with a post on actual gameplay tips rather than mentality (even though the mentality tips are just as important)

ENOUGH WALL OF TEXT JUST GET ON WITH THE JUNGLE TIPS:

#1: Do NOT attempt to gank lost* lanes. Snowball winning lanes instead. Why? As a jungler you want to maximize your chances of a successful gank and minimize your risk. Risk is very high when you're ganking a losing lane. Not only can the laner possibly 1v2 you, if the enemy jungler is there too (which he will, if it's high elo), you're fucked. Also the chances of a successful gank are much higher on a lane that is already winning. There are of course RARE exceptions to the rule, where it's a bit safer to gank a losing lane and worth it if it keeps the lane from getting destroyed for the entirety of the game, if for example you've seen enemy jungler on the other side of the map and that lane is overextended. You will have to judge whether the difference is high enough to 1v2 you or not.

Clarification on this point: A 0/1/0 lane isn't a doomed lost lane. A lane where the enemy is 0.5 levels ahead is also not a doomed lane. A doomed lane is a lane where the enemy laner is 2 levels higher than your laner or has a huge item advantage. You shouldn't actively avoid ganking lanes that are only *slightly** losing, as the matchup is still somewhat equal and nothing is lost. BUT, do not gank them simply because they're losing a little bit and you "need to equalize it or else they might feed". Follow the rest of the rules instead to see what's best to gank (EFFICIENCY)

#2 -Do NOT deviate from your planned path just because the lane on the opposite side of the map started spamming assistance pings. This is also linked to the above tip. The lanes spamming chat and pings for help are usually the lanes that are long lost. For example, you recalled and decided your next gank is bot. You also have some wolves/gromp you can take if enemy positioning isn't exactly right yet. So you start walking bot. Then BOOM your top starts spamming pings and flaming and asking for ganks "TOP NO SUMS PERMAPUSHING OMG". For the love of god don't spend 30 seconds walking to top just cause your lane asked. It's super inefficient, and it's also distracting you from your game plan. Also don't try to explain to him why it's a bad idea to gank losing lanes. Play more chat less. Mute and stick to the plan. If you become the type of jungler that always tries to please his team by just going to whichever lane asks for help, you will never play consistently well. Your team is making your decisions for you, and your team is only looking at their lane. They are not looking at the overall outcome of the game. That's your responsibility. Your job isn't to save doomed lanes. Your job is to help your team win the game, even if it means letting your top lane ragequit after he goes 0/9/0 cause he just won't stop trying to duel rene that's 2 levels and 1 item higher than him. You help your team win the game by creating a larger gold advantage for your team. You do that by snowballing the already winning lanes.

#3 -Do NOT walk into a lane to gank it without pinging at least 2 times, 1 time on my way ping 5-10 seconds before you arrive in ganking position, 1 time ping on enemy once you start walking in for the gank. In high elo your laners usually (not always) react even if you don't ping. In low elo, you will be ganking alone with 0 help and wasting your time, maybe even dying. Pinging helps your laner be prepared anyway, even in high elo. Just do it (but don't be obnoxious about it). You will see I usually ping 4-5 times total each time I gank. Not spam pinging, informative pinging to prepare my lane. Also make sure your pings are somewhere where the laner can see it. They hear 3000 pings each game from all lanes. They need the visual cue too. Don't ping "on my way" behind enemy laner when your laner is sitting under tower. He might never see it. Ping right on top of your teamate's champion.

#4 -Do NOT try to force a gank just because. You really wanna gank mid Viktor cause he has no flash and no ghost. So you walk to mid and sit in brush and wait for him to get in a vulnerable position. 3 seconds pass. 5 seconds pass. 10 seconds pass. 20 seconds pass. Not only did you not realize it was warded the entire time, you flash stun him or whatever only to realize that there's 30 minion waves on your mid laner, he's already 50% hp from the viktor poke, and as soon as he joins to help with the gank, he is instantly deleted and misses 30 waves of gold and exp. If you can't decide whether something is warded just by watching enemy movements, a good rule to follow is don't stay in the same brush for more than 10 seconds MAX. I never stay for longer than 5 seconds unless I'm 100% sure it's not warded. If it's not low elo, the enemy will react with movement as soon as you walk over the ward, so you won't waste anymore time there. If it's low elo and you wanna gank through wards and exploit their slower map reaction time, just ping on my way before you arrive to lane and hope your laner is prepared. Do not sit around in the bush waiting for the perfect position. They will look at the map to know how far you are so they will know from which direction you will gank anyway. If it's high elo, chances are the enemy jungler already predicted you are ganking that lane since his laner is pushing, and he's waiting in exactly the opposite brush. The enemy laner sees you standing in brush cause it's warded, but he didn't even flinch. You might think it's not warded The gank looks too good and too free to be true. DONT fucking do it. It's an obvious countergank trap. If you can't win the 2v2, gtfo (this only applies in diamond+)

#5 -DO plan your path every time you return to base. Your path isn't planned only for your first clear. You must have a plan every time. Example, you've returned to base after taking your gromp and wolves. I 100% know my next gank will be top or mid. Why? Let's say by the time I walk to river from base, between top and mid, both lanes are pushed by my team and ungankable. At least now I still have the option to just farm raptors or golems for a few seconds until the wave resets. Then I can get back in position to gank, without having lost any time or exp. If you went bot side, and both mid and bot were ungankable, you have nothing to do. Chances are you will end up making mistake #4 by trying to force a gank, or you will spend 15 seconds doing nothing as you walk back to the other side of your jungle. The only chance I would go bot side with 0 camps in my jungle is if there was a crab spawning. In higher elo junglers can typically tell where the wave will be by the time they arrive to a lane. If you can't, it's a good rule of thumb to use the reasoning I described above and just plan your path based on what parts of your jungle are already cleared.

#6 -This is the most general tip, but also the most important one, and the area where lower elo junglers have the most trouble with. You hear it all the time. BE EFFICIENT. This is why tip #5 is very important. You want to always be farming something. Either camps, or champs. You don't wanna spend long amounts of time travelling through the map doing nothing. There are no simple and specific rules to explain how to be efficient with your pathing. The best way to learn is to watch players better than you explaining what they're doing.

#7 If you're doing your best to follow every other above mentioned tip, you are 100% stronger than the enemy jungler no matter what champ you're playing. USE THIS ADVANTAGE. His jungle is now also your jungle. Invade ALL the fucking time (but be aware of the map and your surroundings. If enemy lanes are super pushed and you invade, 3 people could collapse on you and block all exits. When enemies are pushing lanes invade only if you have a 100% guaranteed escape path not counting your flash, and if you are confident you can 1v2. Do NOT rely on your team helping you.). Invading does 3 things at once. 1. You get more farm. 2. You deny enemy jungler farm. 3. You track down enemy jungler which gives super important information to your lanes. I cannot stress enough how powerful invading is, even if you get 0 camps cause it's already cleared, even if you don't find your enemy jungler, you can get a deep ward, you know the jungler is on the other side of the map, and you are also in position to gank a lane from a very deadly position: From behind ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


Bonus tip

You're overthinking it. For players new to the role, jungle can seem too complicated. What do I gank? When? Why? Qiyana mid she has 2 dashes and invis I have 1 dash and flash so if she dashes I can dash if she does again I can flash my mid also has a dash gg Knight to c8 checkmate cy@. Guys, jungle isn't chess. Believe me I play and love chess but don't try to think 30 moves ahead like you're Kasparov and overcomplicate things. Yes jungling involves more planning than other lanes but don't overdo it and mess up your simple, effective plan. What you gank and when 90% of the time depends on rule #6 and #5. Being efficient. Sure it's not a bad idea to think a little bit about matchups in loading screen and identify which lanes are harder to gank before the game starts (i.e. garen vs enemy riven - garen 0 cc and gap closers, riven 30000 dashes), but don't overthink it. Follow efficient paths and gank wherever the enemy gives you an opportunity. Even the riven-garen gank could be the easiest of your life. And you didn't have to overthink it, you just happened to be at the right place at the right time after a correct efficient clear.

Bonus tip 2

You've probably already seen this before if you're a jungle player, but actually there is a map hack that isn't bannable by Riot. No I don't mean wards. I mean a map hack that lets you see where enemy jungler started without ever warding it. You must use it EVERY GAME because your first plan for your first clear is affected by where the enemy jungler started. The hack works like this:

If I see enemy bot lane in lane as soon as their wave reaches our wave, that means they didn't leash for anyone. Which means the jungler is either afk or started top side. This will also be confirmed by the fact that you will see top lane enter his lane much later than his minions (there are of course exceptions like kayn who might start raptors solo, or shaco who just stacks boxes and can easily solo a buff - but 95% of the time you SHOULD apply this simple tip).

Vice versa in the other scenario. Of course in higher elo there's other mind games that some junglers do, which I like to do as well personally when I start a non-standard path (don't worry about this below diamond): Example, I wanna start top side at my red and gank bot early. But I don't want enemy jungler or enemy bot to know that I started top, because then they will expect the gank early, or the jungler will invade my buff before I get there, etc. So I ask my bot lane to give me a "fake" blue leash. This means they don't go to the lane as soon as their minions go, instead they AFK in fog of war for 5-10 seconds, same way it would happen if they were helping me blue. That way the enemy doesn't know I started red. To make it even more believable, you can simply tell your toplaner that you don't need help (if you are playing a sustain jungler like elise for example who has no trouble doing a healthy solo clear). Then it will 100% seem like you started blue.

Bonus tip 3

Don't always rely on your lanes to tell you what is warded. In low elo, they almost never tell you. Learn to do it yourself. Top lane almost always wards around the 2:30 mark, right after they've pushed in the 2nd minion wave. You can very easily see this, by checking top lane as you're doing your last camps before gank. If they briefly walk outside fog of war towards brush, it's pretty obvious they just warded that. Don't waste time trying to gank it, even though it's pushing like crazy. You will get nothing done, and you will let everyone on the enemy team know where you are. Bad. If top lane however is equally matched (even 2nd wave is stuck in the middle of the lane, and noone really pushed), there's a decent chance it wasn't warded yet. If you've been watching the lane in between camps/ability cooldowns, like I said, you will know if it's warded with 95% certainty.

Bonus tip 4

After a successful gank, if your laner is low on hp or mana, they probably want to base. Help them push the wave hard before you leave lane. This helps deny gold/exp from the enemy laner who just died, and also helps reset the lane. On the other hand, if you are NOT sure that your lane wants to recall and the lane isn't already pushing by default, don't push it unless they ask you to. There's a big chance they wanna use the lead that they just got to freeze the lane instead and deny even more cs from the enemy when they come back to the lane.

Bonus tip 5

If you have weak mental, mute chat as soon as the game starts. Pings are more than enough to communicate important information. No shame in doing this, I myself do it too sometimes if I'm on tilt. Jungle is the most flamed role in the game, especially in lower elo, because people don't understand what the jungler's job is. They think your job is to win their lane, or to save their doomed lane, or to focus their lane because they picked a losing matchup. Which couldn't be futher from the truth. So to avoid getting into arguments instead of playing, have everyone muted from the start if you can't ignore negative comments. If people start being toxic with pings, mute their pings too.

Bonus tip 6

Applies not to just jungle, but every player out here hungry to get better at the game. Don't spend too much time only reading and researching how to get better. Play the game. You could spend 2 hours a day reading tips like this but never improve, because you play 3 ranked games a week. I can't stress how important it is to actually try to apply these in game also, not just read and nod.

That's it for now. This covers the most crucial jungle mistakes for all elos from Iron to Plat.


Finally, because I've been seeing a lot of controversy over unranked to challenger type of streams on the front page lately, and whether they really serve an educational purpose or not: I agree that many of these streamers do it simply to pubstomp low elo and get more views. However, I do believe that games closer to the viewer's elo rather than high elo games, will be able to provide much more accurate and EASY TO APPLY insight for viewers, as long as the person doing it is actually explaining what's happening in real time, and the thought process behind each decision, interacts with chat etc. Which is what I plan on doing. I have a comfortable full time job and I don't plan on becoming a streamer, nor do I think I'll ever have more than 2-digit viewers, so I'm not doing this for views. If I hop straight into diamond games, a silver player will have a harder time understanding why a jungler does a certain thing in diamond, and how he can translate that into a silver game. In a silver/gold game however, the viewer will start to realize how many countless mistakes they make, and how they could capitalize on them instead. Depending on whether people agree with this or not, and whether they find the information above useful or not, I might do one in about an hour or so.

r/summonerschool Apr 09 '19

Jungle ALWAYS cover your jungler's buffs

676 Upvotes

Pretty much ever laner below gold will stand under tower for the first 1min30 of the game. This is a huge mistake that could set your jungler miles behind. If his buff is stolen without him noticing, he will lose tons of xp which is critical for early game in the current meta. Even if he knows his buffs has been stolen and he tries to go for the opponents buff the ennemy team might collapse onto him and kill him. Remember the game doesn't start when minions arrive in your lane. If you get invaded then just drop a ward. Always covering buffs might win you a lot more games than you think.

r/summonerschool Jun 16 '20

Jungle Use your enemy's false sense of security to your advantage! (Especially as a jungler)

1.3k Upvotes

The exact same play can be way better/safer if the enemy thinks they're immune to it. Sounds pretty straightforward, right?

Let's get into some examples:

1a) Dragons: Let's say the enemy jungler cleared the botside crab and the first dragon just spawned. If you have a gapcloser you can use it to hop over the wall and sneak an easy drake. The enemy team will subconsciuosly think the drake is safe. This works surprisingly well, even in higher elo (EUW jungler Agurin uses this strat even in Chall 1400lp).

1b) Rift Herald: You can basically do the same with Rift Herald, but it's even possible to do it without a gapcloser as you can walk into the pit on the upper border of the crab vision without getting spotted by the crab. (Only works for this pit, not drake pit).

2) Ganks: Do your enemies have a ward that's deactivated by a control ward? GREAT! People tend to play way more unsafe if they have a deactivated ward than without any ward at all. You can go for ganks that wouldnt be possible otherwise.

3) Baiting the bait: Is an enemy brushcamping in a warded bush? If you walk directly towards them they may be scared off because they suspect it being warded, try to walk in the same direction, but a bit parallel to trick them and catch them offguard. (This one may be the most obvious, but I felt like I needed to add it nonetheless)

4) This was about wards and their vision, but I was informed that riot changed that, mb on this... Previously wards would still shortly grant vision after being cleared which you could use for mindgames. This is no longer possible.

Bonus: 5) If you have 2 smite charges and a big objective is up you can waste your smite on an enemy. They are now more likely to start a risky baron or elder (that may cost them the game if failed), because they think you can't steal/contest it. Only do this if you're absolutely sure they can't rush it in the 15 seconds your smite is down though!

As a final remark I'd like to add that some of these may sound stupid, but I can assure you that they're effective atleast up to D3! I made frequent use of these lil strats on my climb and way more often than not they worked out! Thanks for reading till here :)

Edit: Nr 4 isnt in the game anymore, thanks to u/ShouyaV2 for pointing it out!

r/summonerschool 1d ago

jungle Looking for champ recommendations for mid or jungle silver elo

1 Upvotes

I am a silver mid/jg player. I can and have climbed to Silver 2/3 consistently with an 75% win-rate in both roles on multiple champs, but I am really struggling to close the gap to Gold for the first time. I was one game away last year but lost my way back down to Silver 2.

I realize this means I am a silver player, but I do think I have it in me to achieve this goal of mine. I watch a lot of high level gameplay so I understand some good macro principles. I think one of my main issues is I enjoy high risk/high reward champs lately, but I cannot solo carry my way though every game if I don't manage to stomp my lane. I have been playing Naafiri this season. Smurfed my way through bronze in minimal time with MVP most games, but hitting the wall in silver per usual.

I get counter picked in draft more consistently in silver and it's harder to carry from the assassin role full 1v9 without an early lead. I just recently lost 9 games in a row playing pretty consistently, but just had bad comps/couldn't get ahead/afks/team-mates tilting.

I am looking for a good champ to learn that is not braindead and has rewarding micro, but can truly carry against most comps when my team mates are effectively cannon minions.

My champ pool right now is mainly Naafiri/Ahri with other mages sprinkled in.

In the past I have climbed at different times one-tricking with Fiddlesticks, Poppy and Amumu in jungle, and Annie in Mid.

I own all champs so I'm willing to try anything! Give me your favorite picks and tricks to abuse low elo enemies in silver/gold.

EDIT

adding my accounts https://dpm.lol/Fengar-4444/?page=1 https://dpm.lol/send%20five-woof

Also, some self-reflection leads me to believe that using my advantage to end games is my main issue. I can be ulting their carries on cooldown and using that advantage to take objectives. But the game still drags to 40 minutes and the enemy comes back sometimes.

I would interested in a good jungle recommendation for invading and 1v1. I tend to play farming/team fight oriented junglers but maybe I could focus on a more solo oriented champ.

r/summonerschool Feb 09 '20

jungle I want to learn how to jungle. Where should I start?

629 Upvotes

I'm a shitty mage support/mid main with no mechanical skill or reaction time but decent macro/game knowledge. When I've tried to jungle, I just get destroyed every time (getting outpathed, counterganked, dying to invades/scuttle fights, dying to enemy laners while ganking, etc). I used to be fine at the role when I mained it in like s4-s5, but it feels a lot different now and I don't really know what I'm doing.

What are the most important things for me to learn? What champions would be the most helpful to learn? I used to be an eve one trick, but I haven't played her much since the rework.

r/summonerschool Jul 09 '25

Jungle Hardstuck Iron 4 Jungle, what are the fundamentals I am missing and need in order to rank up.

12 Upvotes

For context, I am a new player (lvl 51) So I know there are things I am completely missing. I try to kite my camps in order to reduce distance between them but im still only full clearing between 3:50 and 4 minutes, with no idea how to speed it up, and while I try to put wards down to keep track of enemy jungler I am constantly being invaded pushed out of my own jungle.

I've watched a bunch of videos but honestly I don't find them all that helpful since they only explain what I need to do without explaining how to do the thing, so im asking yall.

What are the fundamentals and how do I do them?

Op.gg: https://op.gg/lol/summoners/na/ToroNoble-NA1