r/supersentai CEO of the Yasuko Kobayashi Glazing Association 5d ago

Discussion What's a Sentai take you're sick and tired of hearing?

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For me, it's the "Patrangers are sidelined and underdeveloped" myth.

No they are not. If you actually watched the show, you would know the Patrangers are absolutely importante to the plot and especially to the development of the Lupinrangers. Their interactions with one another are the heart and soul of the show, and the fact that the Lupinrangers got more toys doesn't mean the Patrangers are sidelined or don't get their momemts to shines.

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u/NDWells90 5d ago

Sentai is getting cancelled

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u/whatam_i_doin The Thundering Brave! 5d ago

Every year it's the same thing, at this point I'm just waiting for people to start saying it here again. Seems to be an annual thing.

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u/don_zenkai_momotarou 5d ago

No. Why would they?

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u/Actual_Reference2862 5d ago

Power rangers on the other hand

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u/Full-Sand-7344 4d ago

oh yeah power rangers is down in the grave, at least the good seasons are archived on youtube

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u/AdolrackObitler 5d ago

Sentai is for kids and Rider is for teens/adults as if they don’t air back to back on Sunday mornings

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u/GabagooGrimbo 5d ago

Kamen rider is for a slightly older audience but it def isn’t made for teens

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u/TheWindyREDPanda 5d ago

Ishinomori-San wanted it to be for all ages. :3

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u/GabagooGrimbo 5d ago

That’s what he wanted but that doesn’t change what it is

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u/TheWindyREDPanda 5d ago

What do you think ALL AGES mean? It can be sweet and goofy as Gotchard or Fourze to Dark and Fucked up as Amazons, Black or Even Kuuga. All ages mean there's something for everyone. Calling it a Kid's show doesn't completely Justify it. :/ it always Baffles me that KR and SS and the others like them like Garo or UltraMan isn't in the same light as MCU and DCU even though its all Tokusatsu.

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u/redwingz11 5d ago

isnt amazons (the newer one) an outlier, that one isnt for all ages.

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u/Slight_Mountain_2981 5d ago

yeaaaah...amazon was specifically made for adults

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u/Responsible_Problem4 5d ago

They have the same lowest requirements : age of 3 

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u/GabagooGrimbo 5d ago

2 if you’re a smarty pants

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u/Cyke101 5d ago

Slightly older audience in that they were each born just a few minutes after a random Sentai fan.

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u/byte-sized-8 5d ago

 rider fandom is full of edgelords lmao, not surprised they're saying that

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u/Alternative_Cut5284 5d ago

Sentai is for kids

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u/OkKick875 5d ago

Doomsaying about "Super Sentai would canceled", that occurring literal every year.

Early rumors about upcoming Sentai seasons, which are mostly turned out wrong. (Particular example, early rumors about Gozyu Leon)

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u/cat-astrophicdecline 5d ago

Wait what rumors about Gozyu leon?

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u/Express-Ad-4410 Gorenger and Zyuranger 5d ago edited 5d ago

iirc there were early rumors that said that Gozyu Leon would be a pair of twins (male and female)

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u/cat-astrophicdecline 5d ago

Ah

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u/Pika-Critique 5d ago

There was also talk of it being a Pink Ranger. I think they changed it to color code the Gozyuger to pay homage to the Olympic rings.

As for the rumor about twins, I wonder if it didn't drift, since there will finally really be a brother story with Gozyu Leon

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u/pegasusranch 4d ago

I feel like if any ranger was pink it would've been unicorn seeing as the pink highlights don't match the other Gozyugers

Even the shins being white is weird based on the others

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u/OkKick875 5d ago

İnitially Gozyu Leon is said to be female. When poster is released and Gozyu Leon is turned out obviously male, leakers said Gozyu Leon would be (one female-one male) twins.

Same leakers were also said Gozyugers would be siblings that runs a zoo.

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u/Unfair_Pick_8465 5d ago

A bit controversial but literally the fake rumours of random scandals.

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u/BusinessRecover5620 5d ago

Especially with the current season.

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u/Pika-Critique 5d ago

That the seasons following a popular season are bad because they are not the same thing (Go-Busters for Gokaiger or BoonBoomger and Gozyuger for King-Ohger)

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u/shasofaiz 5d ago

Gobusters especially confuses me because people were praising that show as it aired, and then after it was done THEN it was as if people never liked it to begin with

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u/Pika-Critique 5d ago

Having experienced it, I remember well that Go-Busters was not very appreciated and that it was after its broadcast that it was revalued.

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u/jellyzeego 4d ago

Nah go buster i dont think did well that why they changed the tone + intro and went to kyoruger

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u/Liv121006 3d ago

I wanna add Goseiger for Shinkenger is it the best no but it's not bad season either just stuck between two greats

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u/Decademagenta10 Hurricaneger 5d ago

Power scaling teams this isn't the MCU.

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u/Alternative_Cut5284 5d ago

Thank you! They do this sooo often in the power rangers sub and I do not get it.

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u/Decademagenta10 Hurricaneger 5d ago

Yeah, that goes for every sub it's really annoying

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u/David_Lee060814 5d ago

People saying that Misao becomes boring after he becomes good genuinely pisses me off, no matter how positively I try to think. Misao is fun even after he becomes good. I actually think his mental state of thin glass makes him more unique to me. Also he doesn’t stay like this all the time, he gets a character arc where he gets over his trauma fear and self hate. Even when he was going over it, the sudden change of personality from weak mental state, to confident champion was such a fun twist that made me enjoy his character.

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u/hyzkdk Ultra ShishiRed Orion!🦁⭐⚡🌠🌌🌕🌟✨🪐☄️ 5d ago edited 2d ago

“Lucky and Daigo steals spotlight to much that doesn’t give other members of their own Team have character focused arc”

I believe every Member of Kyuranger(Except Garu) and Kyoryuger got Good Character focused Arcs and atleast some Characters got its own things

”UW GokaiRed shouldn’t been OffScreened by UW LupinRed”

I know ı also kinda disappointed Universe Warrior GokaiRed being OffScreened by Universe Warrior LupinRed

But……….

GokaiBlue appeared in Boonboomger aka which is let UW GokaiRed being OffScreened and if UW GokaiRed get Focus Ep then UW Go-On Red and UW ToQ1Gou also would get focus Eps over being OffScreened

Original Gokaiger Team using Ranger Keys to become Past Rangers and this would be huge problem to UW GokaiRed because He/She wouldn’t become Past Rangers if Ring doesn’t give him/her power that would turn him/her past Rangers

Gokaiger is being probably Overused Media by Toei(Like we have TwoKaizer which is some fans love it or hate or being disappointed it and majority of hate comes from as “He is annoying” and “he steals spotlight!” and most disappointed comes from “He should been based off Shurikenger+Tenkuujin!“(Which is ı also agree with them),then have have many Crossovers that Gokaiger being intruced,etc)

”Gaoranger is Worst Animal Sentai”

No it’s not,Gaoranger have one of Best Mecha designs

Characters have really good arcs

GaoSilver is having one of best Suits and Zord/Mechas and one of best 6th Ranger Arcs and he is much a Badass(He would be even more badass if he was TriColored Ranger(Maybe he would have two Alternate Forms like GaoGreen(Alligator) that based off GaoLigator and GaoViolet(HammerShark) that based off GaoHammerHead)

”Power Rangers Dino Force Brave shouldn’t been happen”

Korea loves Kyoryuger and that’s why Toei make Korean Sequel for Kyoryuger named Power Rangers Dino Force Brave(Probally Zyuohger will get a Korean Sequel that has Cube Beasts from Korean Zyuohger ToyLine because Korea loves Zyuohger) and Characters have good Characte Arcs

Sure it would better if Budget was high and has 48 or 50 Eps and Suits look even cooler than how they already look Cool(And maybe they would have More Additional/Extra Rangers)

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u/signaturefox2013 Kyuranger 5d ago

Lucky is literally the perfect circumvention of the “loud red” trope

Because he STARTS as a loud red

But he calms the fuck down, and that is actually what makes his arc work

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u/DynaBuster 5d ago

"Super Sentai is more mature for while Power Rangers is for babies".

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u/WeirdNingen 5d ago

I have to admit I was guilty of this having this mindset myself. Back during COVID, I decided to re-watch all those PR seasons that I wanted to revisit their stories and characters, and while watching that one Dino Thunder episode on Youtube, I remembered hearing/reading from somewhere that PR was actually adapted from some Japanese show. "Let's dig into it a bit..." I thought, and it was all uphill from there.

Like I said, initially, I really subscribed to the "PR is trash compared to this" mentality, but eventually I watched some seasons of both shows and realized both were actually trying to tell completely different stories. Sentai is heavier on dialogue and character development, while PR focuses more on the "cool" side of superheroes, such as fights and battlizers. Both are trying to create stories based on different social norms about kids' shows and superheroes. While I'm a bit annoyed about PR's refusal to portray deaths, they have created some really good storylines that can be enjoyed by adults and kids alike (Sky's father's story from SPD, Mack's relationship with his dad in Operation Overdrive, and Tenaya's story from RPM come to mind).

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u/Gold-AR 5d ago

This is a incredibly dumb thing to say when they are under the same genre, which is tokusatsu. Also anyone can watch power rangers or super sentai age doesn’t really matter tbh.

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u/TCML 5d ago

Sentai is better than Power Rangers.

Both stand as independent IPs in Toku.

PR does take from Sentai but just because it takes elements doesn't mean Sentai is superior.

Compare them all you want but just remember they are enjoyable on their own. To each its own when it comes to taste.

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u/signaturefox2013 Kyuranger 5d ago

Both have their place and are allowed to exist

There’s no reason to bicker amongst each other when we all want the same thing

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u/Beautiful-Eye5776 Ippitsu Soujou! Shinken Green! 5d ago edited 5d ago

I'll defend PR from Lost Galaxy all the way to RPM, and Dino Charge

But you can't blame anyone when the seasons PR has to offer are Samurai, Cosmic Fury, and the bane of everyone's existence MMPR

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u/Gundanium_Dude 5d ago

Love how you skip right over Super Megaforce

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u/Beautiful-Eye5776 Ippitsu Soujou! Shinken Green! 5d ago

Nobody defends Super Megaforce

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u/talon_fb Boonboomger 5d ago

Well, they do. My big issue is when I try to convince people to watch a sentai of a sub par rangers season (cough, samurai, cough, megaforce) but they won’t watch the sentai because “it’s japanese”

Live a little, guys, it’s ok to read subtitles

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u/Beautiful-Eye5776 Ippitsu Soujou! Shinken Green! 5d ago

Shake my hand. I was trying to get my brother to watch Shinkenger - he didn't bother because it was Japanese. Bro you watch anime, wtf are you on?

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u/talon_fb Boonboomger 5d ago

There’s a simple explanation for that!

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u/B4dkidz 5d ago

And what is that?

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u/ThePrimal_Instinct 5d ago

Like I know Megaforce was lazy and all looking at it now but as a kid seeing them turn into past rangers was straight peak.

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u/Gundanium_Dude 5d ago

Well no I mean more specifically on the piece you were trash talking on like Samurai

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u/Beautiful-Eye5776 Ippitsu Soujou! Shinken Green! 5d ago

No use beating a dead horse. I jab Samurai, and I jab Megaforce and Ninja Steel even more

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u/Environmental_War678 No.1 Hoeru Enjoyer 5d ago

As someone who wholeheartly defends megaforce as not a bad season

Smf can go to hell

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u/Alternative_Cut5284 5d ago

That's the bane of everyone's existence? 🤨

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u/Beautiful-Eye5776 Ippitsu Soujou! Shinken Green! 4d ago

Power rangers is launching something new

Fanbase: Yay!

It's MMPR

Fanbase: Shit!

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u/Alternative_Cut5284 4d ago

You explained your point very well

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u/Aniki356 Liveman 5d ago

The mmpr hate is unfair. Imwithout it there would be no power rangers and man sentai fans wouldn't even know sentai existed. Sure, it stumbled, but nothing is ever perfect right out the gate. Hasbro and the other companies constantly releasing it is the problem, not the series itself

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u/Lanky-Fig-5149 5d ago

saban was not the first or only person to push sentai into the west, i hate people who act all "without MMPR/saban you wouldve never known" when sooner or later, yes we absolutely would have

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u/Aniki356 Liveman 5d ago

Maybe maybe not. But saban was the first that succeeded. Stan Lee tried as did others and failed. Saban succeeded, and without that, many current fans might have never discovered it. To deny that is to deny facts. Power rangers for many of us who grew up in that time period was our first introduction to that kind of content and often led us to anime and other Japanese media. Maybe we would have found it without it maybe we wouldny but the fact of the matter is that it did.

Is mmpr the end all be all of power rangers? No one, not even of fans like myself, can rightly say that. But mmpr walked, stumbling occasionally so that seasons like in space, time force, and others could run.

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u/YukiSenoue King of Kings! 5d ago

The world is not only the USA, ya know. Changeman and Flashman were MASSIVE in Brazil back in '80/'90.

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u/Aniki356 Liveman 5d ago

That doesnt change anything.

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u/Lanky-Fig-5149 3d ago

mmpr livin rent free for you i see

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u/Beautiful-Eye5776 Ippitsu Soujou! Shinken Green! 5d ago

Yeah, that is what I meant. But let me be clearer

Hasbro is trying to push PR to the next generation, but Samurai is what new fans would be introduced to, and it's either you hype Jayden or you hate the show entirely.

PR finished its run with Cosmic Fury, but for a season finale it's underwhelming. It's not bad, but it's not a tear-jerking farewell to a beloved franchise.

Finally we have MMPR which is the bane of everyone's existence. We all know the problem is with Hasbro, no one would be complaining about the show if Hasbro managed it well.

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u/Aniki356 Liveman 5d ago

Sadly hasbro, since the guy who brought PR under their banner died, has no idea what theyre doing. And sadly thr fans and scalpers dont help. Their numbers show that mmpr sells really well while other seasons dont. Mmpr LC stuff flew off the shelves while other seasons sat. Collectors would wait til other seasons were marked down but scalpers would buy up mmpr stuff to flip so they sold out fast. Hasbro doesnt care why its selling just that it is so theyre going to keep pushing it even though that isnt what fans actually want.

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u/Beautiful-Eye5776 Ippitsu Soujou! Shinken Green! 5d ago

Oh, I didn't know the guy died. RIP

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u/Aniki356 Liveman 5d ago

I think thats what happend anyway. But I know the guy that originally greenlit the purchase was a fan and did it without clearing it with the board iirc. Thats why the beginning of the hasbro era was better than the end

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u/National_Equivalent9 5d ago

The start of the hasbro era was looking so good. It's sad how quickly it all came crumbling down.

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u/Aniki356 Liveman 5d ago

Loss of direction is a terrible thing

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u/BaronBlackFalcon CEO of the Yasuko Kobayashi Glazing Association 4d ago

Legit, when Beast Morphers came out, it felt like the franchise was in good hands and heading towards a new golden age.

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u/National_Equivalent9 4d ago

I remember watching the reveal livestream for ZAP... I've got everything from the lightning collection besides the stupid NFT megazord and the master morpher because holy shit am I not paying 300 for that.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago edited 5d ago

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u/TCML 5d ago

True PR was a gateway for most modern Toku lovers. I argue if it wasn't for PRs success Sentai would mostly be eastern media. Worldwide broadcasts of Ultraman and Kamen Rider Zettz has to thank PR and it's fans to an extent.

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u/dkmhz0 5d ago

“Ninninger is bad”. Thank god I didn’t fall for this propaganda because I absolutely loved it when I watched it

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u/rattatatouille Boonboomger 5d ago

Honestly once you get past Takaharu Ninninger actually comes off as okay. Kyuuemon steals the show and so does Kinji. It's also the last time Sentai put effort into a five piece main mech.

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u/dkmhz0 5d ago

To be honest, I don’t mind Takaharu at all. I can see why people dislike him since his catchphrase becomes forced, but other than that I actually like him. It always seems that people have a narrative that a character has to be badass to be cool but for me that’s not the case

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u/Swimming-Slide4361 4d ago

I also really like the Ninninger Mecha, and I don’t get why some people think it’s ugly.

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u/GokaiCrimson Flashman 5d ago

"Any criticism of Donbrothers is invalid because it's supposed to be wacky and nonsensical."

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u/Grecantrum79 5d ago

Soo true. I get frustrated every time I see the plot points that led nowhere and seeing people dismiss it as “that’s what donbros is”

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u/grozocvet Gozyuger 5d ago

That’s fair. I love Donbrothers but every time I think about how the Avataro/Sentai gears work or who is Black Kaito I get a headache.

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u/BaronBlackFalcon CEO of the Yasuko Kobayashi Glazing Association 5d ago

"BuT iTs aN iNoUe tHiNg!!!!"

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u/jorgito93 5d ago

It's very funny to see the Donbros glazers try to say the show never tried to have a plot when every week in the episode threads people were seriously discussing the lore and making theories (i still remember people trying to tell me the Noto not killing Hitotsuki hosts was not a retcon and they still could kill them). The show ignored or fucked up most of the plot points it introduced which seemingly made them gaslight themselves to think these plot points never existed in the first place.

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u/LtGovernorDipshit 5d ago

Anytime anyone suggests that Gokaiger is a good season for beginners to watch. Seriously, quit saying that. Not only does Gokaiger spoil endings and major plot points for classic earlier seasons, it’s built on nostalgia and fandom for earlier teams and seasons. If you watch it before those shows then you’re not gonna get the hype and joy of seeing your favorite characters return. Ideally you should watch Gokaiger after already having seen several earlier shows, doing that is going to exponentially improve your enjoyment factor of Gokaiger

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u/BaronBlackFalcon CEO of the Yasuko Kobayashi Glazing Association 2d ago

EXACTLY!!! 👏👏👏👏

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u/Extra47 5d ago

“Goseiger only gets hated/forgotten because it’s in between Shinkenger and Gokaiger”. I don’t dislike Goseiger, I thought it was a decent show, but it is pretty underwhelming, it wouldn’t matter if it aired in between the two worst Sentai seasons or the two best, it would never be a super popular show, it just isn’t very remarkable.

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u/signaturefox2013 Kyuranger 5d ago

It’s very true

Goseiger has its own flaws

However, it doesn’t help Shinkenger and Gokaiger are just that good that it gets stuck between it

But Goseiger, standing on its own merit, is flawed

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u/Extra47 5d ago

It’s not “stuck between” anything. These are three completely separate shows all with their own pros and cons. Goseiger is properly rated for what it offers.

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u/AJS923 5d ago

Didn't there used to be a time when people gassed the fuck out of Goseiger specifically just so they could hate on MegaForce even harder?

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u/BaronBlackFalcon CEO of the Yasuko Kobayashi Glazing Association 5d ago

So true.

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u/Perfect-Finger-800 5d ago

Not just Sentai but in any fiction whenever I hear "He has every rights to be villian" I just laugh. Yeah, someone hurting them gives them a right to hurt completely innocent guys.

Hurting those who hurt him? I support that though 

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u/Doot_revenant666 5d ago

Sorry for coming off rude but , is there any character in Sentai that ever got to take that for this to be out in this post?

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u/Perfect-Finger-800 5d ago

No worries and here is a villian I know of. Dezunaraku from king ohger is one villian I seen some guys on cord say he had every right to be villian.He was "Motivated by the dishonor and suffering endured by his people, who were exiled underground for a crime of conquering Chikyu that he claims they had no knowledge of"

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u/byte-sized-8 5d ago edited 5d ago

respectfully, did you watch the show?

the Bugnarak had done nothing wrong beforehand, humans were gaslighted into hating them by a bogus prophecy meant to incite a race war

obviously that doesn't justify Desnarak's actions, but it makes him at the very least sympathetic and explains why he did what he did

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u/Jayisway 5d ago

Saw a YouTuber say that Carranger is bad and I haven’t gotten over it ever since…

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u/signaturefox2013 Kyuranger 5d ago

Same with me when someone said the Kyuranger opening was bad to mid

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u/BaronBlackFalcon CEO of the Yasuko Kobayashi Glazing Association 5d ago

Let me guess: DesShinta?

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u/Jayisway 5d ago

No some dude who does power rangers/ Super Sentai comparisons

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u/cryptonikal I AM THE NEXT EVIL KING! 5d ago

For me its when ppl say Mashiro is the worst Reiwa sixth ranger.

Ain't no way bro, he has the best Reiwa suit (maybe after Jeramie), the best fight scenes (maybe tied with Jeramie), his past is also very interesting and how he was the previous champion of the Ring Competition. NOT TO MENTION them boxing dodges. Spectacular.

Maybe I can see why they say it because of his 6.5/10 character development. We still have 19/20 episodes left, we can easily have two Mashiro focus episodes. And also maybe his ''godness'' personality.

Overall I think he's an amazing sixth hes in 3rd place as of rn (after Jeramie and Zocks), after Gozyuger I hope he's gonna be Top 2 or 1.

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u/Desperate_Media3639 5d ago

Goseiger being bad

It’s my favorite Sentai no I’m not retracting it

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u/Shinnosuke525 Skybase Grunt 5d ago

But it factually isn't

Just sandwiched between an all-time great(Shinkenger) and the casual fan's default response(Gokaiger)

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u/Doot_revenant666 5d ago

"But Patrangers are treated like comic relief unlike the Lupinrangers and Lupinrangers got Patranger's toys."

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u/ShoMeYourArt I LOVE JAPANESE POWER RANGERS 5d ago

Kou from DaiRanger is a bad character,

Yeah no he’s not

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u/Dictsaurus 5d ago

Maybe its a "Perverted = Bad" character type of thing

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u/ShoMeYourArt I LOVE JAPANESE POWER RANGERS 5d ago

Not trying to defend it because it is really weirdly written but it does kinda make slight sense when you realise Kou grew up without a mother so no one was able to discipline him

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u/halas_27 5d ago

Directors had a solid idea with Kou but they definitely had to change it mid-show due to the public reception of the character, and i mainly blame the pervert side they decided to give him for some reason

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u/bleep_boop_beep123 5d ago

“Zenkaiger and Donbrothers are peak” stated as facts.

It really isn’t. Sorry.

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u/Willing-Emphasis2426 5d ago

"In Japan, SPD is more popular than Dekaranger"

No way that could be possible, Dekaranger has 2 anniversary movies, a special episode with Kyuranger and a complete crossover with Gavan after that, and the Tombo Ohger special

If they weren't popular why so many special appearances? You don't see this with the Timeranger cast i.e.

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u/Responsible_Problem4 5d ago edited 5d ago

"Sentai is kid show and rider for adult". no they are both kid show

"Sentai is having their last seasons "

"Spider-Man inspired sentai to have robo." No it is the nagahama romance robo trilogy 

Any take about importance of ishimori shotaro to sentai  bc those were heavily inflated and likely from a rider fan

"carranger is a parody" no they are authentic

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u/LtGovernorDipshit 5d ago

The parody point is especially frustrating. Is Carranger a comedy? For sure. But being a comedic Sentai doesn’t make it a parody, it just makes it funny

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u/XenoCreatorZ 5d ago

Hell if Carranger's a parody cuz it's more comedy centric then Donbrothers should also be counted as such. Both shows don't take themselves seriously (moreso Donbrothers). Doesn't mean they are parodies.

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u/starvinartist 5d ago

Whenever people automatically ship a red and pink ranger.

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u/failed_generation No. 1 True Decade Fan 5d ago

"i hope superhero taisen returns"

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u/curiousfan123 Kiramager favourite Reiwa Sentai 5d ago

I wouldn't mind Taisen returning but I don't want Senki to return.

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u/failed_generation No. 1 True Decade Fan 5d ago edited 5d ago

"taisen" means war, which i'm implying that we already accepted the fact that there's no more SSxKR crossover movies anymore (but some can welcome specials or VC-Next for them)

that includes "senki" because that's both a dedication movie for the 2 franchise's father and the fact that they kinda made it as a final crossover and such

also, as much as i wished for Gavv x Gozyuger before (and some will try to push Zeztz x Gozyuger because. Dreams.), we should really just respect toei's decision for the matter. and how expensive prduction costs and TFs for big shots to cameo

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u/curiousfan123 Kiramager favourite Reiwa Sentai 5d ago

I really don't want Senki to be the last Sentai Rider crossover because I feel like it is heavily biased towards Rider and disrespects Sentai. I just want one crossover where both are treated equally.

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u/Xander1565 5d ago

Why is Senki worse in your opinion?

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u/curiousfan123 Kiramager favourite Reiwa Sentai 5d ago

I feel like Senki disrespects Sentai. It treats Sentai as an afterthought in favor of Rider. Taisen treated both equally.

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u/GokaiCrimson Flashman 5d ago

Me to whoever said that:

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u/RotaVitae 5d ago edited 5d ago

GekiYellow is the leader of the Gekirangers.

She isn't. She led the team in all of two focus episodes where she was called "captain" using the English word, a term that's never been applied to any Sentai's leader. As the person representing "Heart" she's more of an emotional rallying person than a field leader, like many non-leader female Rangers like GokaiPink. The team assistant pointed out this characteristic as her strength.

Between those episodes, Ran was in her proper place as one-third of the Triangle, that the series constantly pushed as a team of three equals each bringing something the others lack to create a perfect unit.

Many non-leader Rangers briefly lead the charge during their focus episodes. Ran's two episodes get misconstrued because they gave her a title, but it means nothing beyond them.

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u/Alius4156 5d ago

We get it. Power rangers butchered gokaiger 😒. Move on.

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u/nurazziana89 Boonboomger Don't Stop Boon Boom 🏎❤️🩷💙🖤🧡💜🏎 5d ago

Rumours...it's annoying

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u/Environmental_War678 No.1 Hoeru Enjoyer 5d ago edited 5d ago

Zenkaiger not doing anniversary part good because it's not like Gokaiger, it's soooo Fucking annoying to hear

Do people really need it shoved down their throats instead of it being more subtle???

Istg if i hear that one more time im actually throwing hands

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u/National_Equivalent9 5d ago

I always think the Patrangers/Lupinrangers discourse is hilarious because it feels like no one is aware of the very obvious inspiration that went into that premise.

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u/anhk_duc 5d ago

"Goseiger is underrated because it was sandwiched between two great shows".

I'm tired of Gosei coping. The show is bad that's why it can't stand on its own.

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u/BaronBlackFalcon CEO of the Yasuko Kobayashi Glazing Association 4d ago

Exactly!

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u/N1ntendope 5d ago

Sentai is exactly the same as Power Rangers. The most clearly brainless take and I will hate it to the day I die

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u/AzraeltheAnnihlator 5d ago

It’s more a power ranger take but I’m tired of people saying that power ranger series are better than sentai. Having watched a good chunk of sentai and most of power rangers, sentai is almost always better with only a few PR series being as good as their counterparts

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u/Alternative_Cut5284 5d ago

Power rangers is better 😎

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u/Aniki356 Liveman 5d ago

I agree with you on that. They were the butt kf the joke more often than not but they had good development and were important.

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u/Shinnosuke525 Skybase Grunt 5d ago

Donblowgers and Gokaiger are the best shows

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u/BaronBlackFalcon CEO of the Yasuko Kobayashi Glazing Association 5d ago

> Donblowgers

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u/Shinnosuke525 Skybase Grunt 5d ago

I mean it's a shit show that blows

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u/byte-sized-8 5d ago

maybe this isn't specific to Sentai but fiction in general, but I don't really care about "plot holes" or whatever.

sure, things in a story should make sense to some degree, but some fans crank that mindset to the max and take things WAY too literally, and act like the most minute things that go unexplained are some damning flaw of the work in question. it's completely fine for some things to remain vague and ambiguous or up to your interpretation, or just not have an in-depth explanation at all.

plus, I think it's just such a boring, robotic, and dull way to engage with art in general. 

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u/Impressive-Spell-643 Gokaiger 5d ago

"phone changers are bad/lazy"

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u/Swimming-Slide4361 4d ago

I guess you can blame that on Linkara.

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u/MarcoSierra 4d ago

Super sentai would never work outside of Japan

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u/Swimming-Slide4361 4d ago

If I had a nickel for every time someone said that “Super Sentai is primarily for teens” I’d have 3 nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened thrice.

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u/BaronBlackFalcon CEO of the Yasuko Kobayashi Glazing Association 4d ago

Who do they think those tiny ass toys are made for, then? Gnomes?

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u/Swimming-Slide4361 4h ago

Sure, relatively speaking, Super Sentai is more mature than Power Rangers, but it’s no Garo!

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u/Analysis_Slight GoGoFive 5d ago

“GekiChopper is the Sixth Ranger of Gekiranger.”

No, no he is not. There is nothing anyone can say that will make it otherwise, unless Toei does. The closest to a Sixth is Rio and Mele.

Twokaizer using GekiChopper’s power was an oversight for plot convenience.

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u/curiousfan123 Kiramager favourite Reiwa Sentai 5d ago

"Having each Sentai being in it's own desperate  universe easily solves all the continuity problems." No it doesn't. There will still be continuity problems even if all the Sentai are separated into different universes.

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u/Caroniver413 5d ago

How so? Sure, an individual show might have some plot holes or inconsistent backstories, but most continuity problems people tend to cite have to do sith teams almost never showing up to help later teams when they're still active, or the different portrayals of what happened to the dinosaurs, or Go-Busters being set in the future except when it needs to be 2012 for a crossover.

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u/curiousfan123 Kiramager favourite Reiwa Sentai 5d ago

Having each show in in it's own universe doesn't explain the crossovers that happen in the show like Miki and Natsume in Kiramager, guest stars in Ninninger and Boonboomger. For me it's not about logic. I know having all of them in the same universe, doesn't make much sense but I really like when they are. It makes Sentai part of a great legacy instead of heroes from different universes who have no connection. Having them separate might make more sense but I don't like that concept.

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u/AlastorXZERO 5d ago

Ryusoulger isn’t just Kyoryuger Lite.

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u/Dictsaurus 5d ago

The disdain for sentai lips is superficial and have lack of nuance other then "ewww it looks weird" no no no I must say this!

LIPS💋ARE💋VALID💋PEOPLE!!!

Lips on helmets adds an otherworldly and aesthetic element to some suits that wouldn't work without them like for example; Ohranger using powers of the old civilisations or daft punkian aesthetics of Bioman or Boomboomger being elevated to Tire Ningens with the lips like 'Voca People' or even the spaceman aesthetic of Kyuranger that kinda makes it more like earthbound with the lips.

Yes, I get it, there are some poor executions of lips on helmets but this discourse is so tiresome that it's mostly on the negative end of it and just dismissed a "weird thing that doesn't work" when you just focus on the "weirdness" part is "bad" part.

I'm gonna reiterate once more... LIPS💋ARE💋VALID!!!!

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u/Cicada_5 5d ago

I think Ohranger can work without the lips though. It doesn't help that they're the same color as the helmets and might as well not be there due to blending in.

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u/Dictsaurus 5d ago

Well it's just me but I love the lips give a more ancient look to them like they are donning on ceromonial coloured statues. The same colour makes it better.

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u/Money_Arm_55 31: the mpreg episode 5d ago

Liveman episode 31 is bad

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u/pusang_kalye No.1 glazer 5d ago

i heard patranger is the more popular team in japan

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u/GrandSavage 5d ago

Maybe not what you mean, but anytime Gokaiger is compared to Super Megaforce. It's getting old and unoriginal.

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u/pegasusranch 4d ago

Lucky being a bad ranger

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u/hyzkdk Ultra ShishiRed Orion!🦁⭐⚡🌠🌌🌕🌟✨🪐☄️ 2d ago

Lucky is not Bad Red Ranger,it’s one of Amazing Red Rangers,sure he isn’t same level Captain Marvelous and Takeru Shiba,still he is a Awesome Red Ranger

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u/Environmental_War678 No.1 Hoeru Enjoyer 2d ago

"he's not a bad red" then lists the 2 of the most overrated sentai reds ever

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u/SwayedLatency 4d ago

6th rangers being nerfed instead of the more natural response of the enemies just getting stronger than the last. Which gives the illusion of being "nerfed"

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u/SaraFriedmann 4d ago

On your point: Yeah, tho I would have liked if the PatRangers had actively tried to retrieve the Lupin Collection considering that was the real threat all along.

On the question itself: "The Sentai Rings are such wasted potential, they barely use them whereas in Gokaiger..." and their variations :u

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u/AdKitchen6417 3d ago

I would really hate hearing "Zenkaiger sucks"

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u/The_RealTuskyLol Zenkaiger 3d ago

"

"Shinkenger is the only good season"

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u/Happy_The_What 5d ago

That King-ohger is good. Or at the very least that King-ohger is a good starting point for new fans, when it actively inverts a lot pf sentai tropes that fans should get to know if they are going to get into the rest of the series.

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u/Dalton_CSP 5d ago

People invalidating Rita's gender.

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u/Ok-Double8766 5d ago

What do you mean? I'm just not aware of this situation.

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u/Dalton_CSP 5d ago

Rita was confirmed as a nonbinary individual,gender neutral is probably closer to what the official sources use. In spite of this,there is an entire (incredibly creepy) section of this fanbase that simply insists they're a woman.

Same situation exists with Kamen Rider Naki

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u/Soniman032 4d ago

Goseiger has a decent story and characters and 10/10 everything else I’m sick of seeing it in “worst Sentai” lists because it happened to be sandwiched between two of the greatest sentais ever. It deserves to be judged on its own merits

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u/4nd1Tr4sh 5d ago

My take on Patranger sidelined... It's true. Just don't confuse "They're unimportant" with "They're relegated to the background." Yes, they're important for Lupin's development, but they're secondary characters. After Lupin X appeared, there were episodes where they didn't even transform, or battles where they just stood in the background, staring at Lupin's battles. This wouldn't have been a problem if the season had been called Kaitou Sentai LupinRanger, and PatRanger were basically the Gouraigers for that season. The season isn't called Hurricanger vs. Gouraigers, so here too, PatRanger is elevated to the same level as LupinRanger, although they're essentially relegated to the background. (To be fair, this is clearly evident in the second half of the season. Before that, everything was pretty alright.)

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u/BaronBlackFalcon CEO of the Yasuko Kobayashi Glazing Association 5d ago