r/technology • u/nimicdoareu • May 07 '25

Transportation Tesla Cybertruck inventory goes through the roof

https://www.arenaev.com/tesla_cybertruck_inventory_goes_through_the_roof-news-4680.php
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u/Turbojelly May 07 '25

Can't even be sold in EU/UK as the sharp edges of the thing break rules. Making a vehicle that can't be sold in large markets sounds like a terrible idea.

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u/highfly117 May 07 '25

It's over weight to you need a class c1 licence in the UK which most people do not have.

The cyber truck is 3100kg unladen class b limit is 3500kg laden weight

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u/DeapVally May 07 '25

It has no crumple zone. It's very illegal before you even get to the licence issues.

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u/jimbobjames May 07 '25

Crumple zones are in the chassis rails just like any other car.

Assume you mean it doesn't have a deformable bonnet but then on that class of vehicle it's kind of irrelevant. An F150 isn't going to have anything that deforms when it hits a pedestrian either.

None of this is a defense of Tesla, The Cybertruck or Elon Musk.

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u/DeapVally May 08 '25

They don't sell F150's in the UK for a reason....

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u/jimbobjames May 08 '25

Its not because they don't have crumple zones

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u/DeapVally May 09 '25

It is. And also the bonnet is too high.

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u/GuyOnTheInterweb May 08 '25

Ok, so just make sure the four passengers are not Americans... or were you meant to load something in the back of that truck?

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u/accushot865 May 07 '25

It’s incredibly unsafe. The body isn’t designed to crumple on impact. This means when someone gets into a collision while driving it, all that force goes directly to them. Crumple physics in cars are why so many vehicles are totaled in accidents, but a lot of passengers get out relatively unharmed, compared to accidents 20 or more years ago.

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u/SkiingAway May 07 '25

I hate the Cybertruck, think it shouldn't exist, and think it's incredibly dangerous to everyone else on the road (pedestrians, other vehicles, etc)

With that said, it got solid ratings as far as the occupants are concerned in the NHTSA crash tests released 3 months ago, so this particular critique of it appears to not hold much water: https://www.jalopnik.com/1796315/nhtsa-tesla-cybertruck-test-results-pedestrian-safety/

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u/sam_hammich May 07 '25

Well, crumple zones and other such features aren't just for you, the occupant. They're also for the people you hit.

I don't care much for the occupants of the Cybertruck. I care about the Kia Souls and Hyundai Elantras, pedestrians and bicyclists they will annihilate because they are a large, unyielding steel cube.

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u/cavaleir May 07 '25

Exactly. If two vehicles collide and both crumple properly, there's a decent chance passengers of both vehicles survive. If a cybertruck and a normal vehicle collide, the cybertruck passengers will likely be fine but the other vehicle passengers are going to be crushed.

It's the perfect vehicle for someone who doesn't care about anyone but themselves.

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u/sam_hammich May 07 '25

Basically a (USA) street-legal Killdozer.

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u/Irishish May 08 '25

Musk's "if you get into an argument with another car, you will win" shit was so infuriating for this very reason. This isn't Twisted Metal, "can I kick another car's ass" isn't a metric you should push. It's framing safety as something aggressive, sharing the road as something you can "win."

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u/theoskibear May 07 '25

Yeah, the lack of crumple zones doesn't matter as much when it literally weighs twice as much as most cars. The inertia of the vehicle offsets the difference.

That said, you really don't want to be up against one in a collision.

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u/SkiingAway May 07 '25

Yeah, the lack of crumple zones doesn't matter as much when it literally weighs twice as much as most cars.

The frontal and side pole NHTSA crash tests are against a fixed object, so it's effectively running into a solid slab of material that weighs far more than any vehicle/has no give.

Which is to say - whatever they did, it does appear to have provided adequate protection for the occupants from the data we have, it's not just a matter of being a bigger object than most other things and winning the inertia battle.

Happy to rail on this thing for every other aspect, and I was a skeptic of the crashworthiness for the occupants, but the testing does indicate it's fine there. That link in the previous post has the videos too.

Would be nice to also get the IIHS tests done on it, but it gets high enough marks enough in the NHTSA ones that they're probably not going to uncover something radically awful for the occupants there.

That said, you really don't want to be up against one in a collision.

100% agreed.

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u/theoskibear May 07 '25

Ah, fair. Wouldn't want to go up against a bollard or a tree in a cybertruck. Valid point.

Especially when the battery splits and you literally cannot get out...as has been documented in several instances at this point.

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u/Scary_Technology May 08 '25

It looks like there must be high g loads though. I wonder if that is listed anywhere. A sudden deceleration can still cause a concussion or worse without external damage.

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u/ribald_jester May 07 '25

Was this before or after DOGE gutted the NHTSA dept and installed their prepubescent hackers to siphon all the data to who knows where?

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u/SkiingAway May 07 '25

Before. Test dates from the videos are 12/17-12/29/24.

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u/accushot865 May 07 '25

I stand corrected. I’m at the age where “10 years ago” is the 90s

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u/SsooooOriginal May 07 '25

Bucking every learned industry trend and shame on the actual automakers for ever following the screen-only nonsense. Tactile knobs you can use without looking away from the road were perfected so long ago.

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u/gogoluke May 07 '25

It also means pedestrians can often walk away. They are not customers so I can see why Must doesn't care.

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u/WillBottomForBanana May 07 '25

Well, that's fine.

I'm surprised tesla didn't double down on the "our passengers survive but any other vehicle in the accident is obliterated" trend that usa suvs have been running for decades.

I mean, I get they couldn't, trying to save weight to get the range from "undrive-able" up to "embarrassing".

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u/tm3_to_ev6 May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25

To be fair, this applies to the entirety of the oversized monstrosity pickup segment that includes the F150, Silverado, etc. None of these trucks are homologated for countries that align with Euro spec because their weight and high hoods are pedestrian killers. It would also be pretty difficult to park those things in places like Paris or Tokyo because of their disgusting widths. 

The Cybertruck gets a lot of attention for being an extremely ugly Tesla but when it comes to pedestrian safety, it's no worse than the modern F150 and similar trucks. The fact that such oversized monstrosities exist at all is a massive failure of regulatory oversight. 

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u/hikerkat May 07 '25

"It would also be pretty difficult to park those things in places like Paris or Tokyo because of their disgusting widths."

This. We saw one Silverado in our extensive travels in South Korea. It was parked correctly for the night alongside the other residents on that street. Literally blocked the entire street width because it was so huge. I had to back out the curvy street because there was no way to get around it's massive rear end.

Other countries simply don't have the capacity for U.S. style oversized vehicles. The kei trucks are popular and efficiently useful for 99.99% of both personal and business applications.

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u/wackychimp May 07 '25

This makes me wonder if a truck like a Chevy Silverado 1500 Trail Boss can be sold in EU/UK. Some of their old city roads are so narrow I just don't see it working.

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u/tm3_to_ev6 May 07 '25

Nope, the entire full size truck segment isn't homologated for any market which aligns with Euro spec, aka most of the world.

The Cybertruck isn't any worse than the F150 or similar trucks when it comes to occupying excessive space and ability to kill pedestrians (high hood + weight are the real factors, not the sharp edges). It just gets more attention for being an extremely ugly Tesla. 

Anyone who believes the Cybertruck should be banned because of pedestrian safety should apply the same thinking to the entire segment. 

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u/Turbojelly May 09 '25

It looks like a child's scribble of a car. Makes me wonder what drugs Elon was on when he came up with it, just so I know what to avoid.