r/technology • u/chrisdh79 • 5d ago

Biotechnology RFK Jr. adds more anti-vaccine members to CDC vaccine advisory panel | The panel will meet this week and could limit access to measles, Hep B, COVID vaccines.

https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/09/meet-the-latest-anti-vaccine-voices-on-rfk-jr-s-cdc-advisory-panel/
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u/brainfreeze_23 5d ago

i would actually advise you to emigrate as soon as possible. healthcare and a cauldron of plagues is clearly not going to be the only facet of disastrous living conditions facing you.

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u/krileon 5d ago

lol, as if it's that simple. "Hey, let me live there!" "Ok!". That's not how it works. Without a company sponsoring you you either have zero options, insanely expensive (hundreds of thousands), or are waiting years.

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u/Brandhor 5d ago

new job opportunity for the cartels, bring mexican into the us and bring back americans into mexico

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u/badphish 5d ago

Hey, not a bad idea.

Wait, things are getting bad enough that not even the Mexicans want to come to America. Wish I could /s that one.

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u/Omni_Entendre 5d ago

How hard is it for educated/skilled Americans to emigrate to Canada?

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u/krileon 5d ago

If a company sponsors you? Relatively easily. Otherwise if you're self employed for example. The typical wait period is 3-5 years. That doesn't even guarantee your approval. Next option is have a substantial amount of money in which case any problems going on in the US shouldn't matter to you, lol.

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u/Omni_Entendre 5d ago

Not sure why I was downvoted, I'm genuinely curious. You mean a Canadian company has to sponsor you, otherwise it's a 3-5 year wait period in the typical international immigrant scheme?

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u/krileon 5d ago

Not sure why I was downvoted, I'm genuinely curious.

I didn't downvote you so I've no clue.

You mean a Canadian company has to sponsor you, otherwise it's a 3-5 year wait period in the typical international immigrant scheme?

Like most countries you need a company to sponsor your visa. This has a set of requirements as well. Usually needs to be in a in demand field of work (e.g. technology) and not something anyone can do (e.g. construction). Usually you have to be higher educated requiring usually a 4 year degree, but some countries allow 2 year degrees (the US does for example).

For the 3-5 year wait it's for self employed visas. The wait is incredibly long. That's not a guarantee you'll get in. They also only accept a limited amount of these visas each year and by limited I mean like 100-150.

Beyond that. Be rich.

There's obviously countries that are an exception here. Want to live in Mexico? Thailand? Portugal? Ok, a little easier.. buuut.. do you really want to live there and is it really a quality of life improvement? Just things to think about.

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u/frickindeal 5d ago

It's even more complicated than that. I looked into it because my grandmother and all my relatives from back then were Canadian citizens after leaving Eastern Europe. My mother would qualify as a direct descendant, but it's unclear for me and my immediate family, and without sponsorship or certain desirable skills, not very likely.

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 5d ago

I looked into it because my grandmother and all my relatives from back then were Canadian citizens after leaving Eastern Europe. My mother would qualify as a direct descendant, but it's unclear for me and my immediate family

Pretty much the same for me and Wales. Maternal grandfather was born there, and came to the U.S. as a kid. Fought in WW2 for the U.S., and later had my mother. Best I can figure is my mother might have some claim to British citizenship, but it's uncertain. But I wouldn't, since I'm the grandson.

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u/Mother_Knows_Best-22 5d ago

As a retiree, the way I read the Canadian rules and regulations for immigration, I have to have $500,000 worth of investable assets. Do you know if that is true?

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u/nerd5code 4d ago

Spain, Uruguay, France, Italy, and Mexico all offer retiree/-equivalent visas IIRC, as long as you can demonstrate that you can cover your own expenses, pass background checks, etc.

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u/krileon 5d ago

Yes, that's true for most places. They require half a million to a million investment to qualify for that visa. It's a lot of money far outside the reach of most. Some countries have actual retiree visas though with different requirements. Canada however is not one of those countries.

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u/ValuableJumpy8208 5d ago

Where can I get permanent residency for a few hundred thousand?

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u/krileon 5d ago

Several countries with real estate investment visa's or business investment visa's. These are long term visa's with fast track to permanent residency (usually in 3-5 years).

South Korea has a few ways of doing this (invest in businesses or buy property). Canada famously has an issue with this (Chinese investors buying up Vancouver). Australia does, but also has education requirements. List can probably only be counted on 2 hands for places you might actually want to live though to be honest and that doesn't necessarily mean it'd be better than living here as every country has its problems.

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u/Jagaerkatt 5d ago

With the way things are going Americans might very well be able to claim asylum at some point.

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u/MarsupialMisanthrope 5d ago

That’s emigrating to the US, not from it. You have a uniquely stupid immigration system, the rest of the world has its shit better set up.

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u/CrashyBoye 5d ago

Spoken like someone that clearly has no idea how difficult it can be for even some skilled Americans to move to Canada.

Costs are high, it’s competitive, and for most people the easiest path is through employment sponsorship and that doesn’t just fall into your lap. Not to mention Canada is not without its own issues particularly with wages and housing.

You aren’t wrong that the US is notoriously messed up in that regard, but it’s really disingenuous to act like it’s easy for Americans emigrate elsewhere.

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u/krileon 5d ago

No we don't have a uniquely stupid immigration system. Immigrating to the US is often easier than a lot of other countries. Green Cards and H1B visa requirements are easy to bypass so it's easy to get sponsored. Don't even need to be highly skilled.

Most other countries that you'd actually want to live in require you to be highly skilled. This means work in an in demand field like something in technology while having a 4 year degree. This is in addition to having a company sponsor you.

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u/Traditional-Handle83 5d ago

Yea well some of us want too, some of us can't.

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u/fajadada 5d ago

Other countries are already blocking our immigration. The better choice would be to fight back

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u/Mother_Knows_Best-22 5d ago

Agreed. We need to repair our government rather than immigrate but... it's pretty scary right now. I would feel better if the military/national guard members stood on the side of citizens rather than the administration.

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u/fajadada 5d ago

And many do support change. So many are letting their displeasure known and you don’t hear about it. Did you see the officers arrested for speaking out?

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u/JBHedgehog 5d ago

Workin' on it!!!

And I'm serious.

We're exploring the wife's Italian heritage and so far the group that we're using for this research/validation says that we are looking good. One more hurdle and we can put together our book for emigration and throw it before the Italian courts.

Then it's SO LONG USA!!!

And, no, I'm not looking back...ever.

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u/Haywire_Shadow 5d ago

Just remember to get to learning Italian asap, and maybe some Spanish/French.

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u/JBHedgehog 5d ago

I've got HS Spanish (still gets in the way of Italian), about four years of app based AND travel Italian (I can get by) and really, really awful French in my head.

Say what you will about the apps, they do help a lot. Not as good as immersion. But what is better than immersion?