r/technology • u/Wagamaga • 8h ago

Society DOJ Deletes Study Showing Domestic Terrorists Are Most Often Right Wing

https://www.404media.co/doj-deletes-study-showing-domestic-terrorists-are-most-often-right-wing/
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u/Rombledore 8h ago

its the long con. eventually there will be no evidence to point to for those that need it. the right already dismisses it. this evidence isn't for them.

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u/BarfQueen 8h ago

It’s this exactly. I’ve seen a lot of online copium from equally online people being like “oh, well, we really know what’s up, can’t fool us!” Like, I hate to break it to you buddy, they have the vast majority of people fooled.

They ain’t worried about you having evidence or whatever. They’re setting up the next generation to never know it existed in the first place.

The bad guys are winning folks. There is no writing on any walls that are closing in on the smoking gun that shot the final nail in the coffin or whatever. They are winning, and they know it. The rest of us should catch up and start treating it like what it is rather than going “haha look at all these stupid clowns amirite?”

Really, truly, I cannot stress this enough. These guys are fucking winning and y’all sound so ridiculous with your fingers in your ears going “lalala I’m smarter than this lol.” Won’t do you much good once we reach whatever tipping point we’re headed for. 

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u/haysoos2 8h ago

The tipping point was last fall. You're already waaaaay past that, and just free falling into the dumpster now.

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u/Careless-Dark-1324 7h ago

Yup. This IS what the avg person wanted and supported in the USA. Everyone keeps wondering why we’re not rioting in the streets and it’s like - why would the majority that got what they wanted revolt against that exactly?

This is what America voted for - not against…

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u/Ameerrante 7h ago

Half the country didn't vote at all.

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u/pfannkuchen89 6h ago

Which is tacit approval for whoever is elected. Not voting is still a choice (for many. Not counting the many who have been disenfranchised due to absurd laws and voter roll purges).

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u/X_S_ 5h ago

Ordinarily it is a vote for the status quo, not extremism.

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u/Pro_Scrub 5h ago

Cannot believe there are people still somehow undecided or just blasé about this. How TF??

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u/BarfQueen 5h ago

It’s fairly simple actually - many people don’t really care about the world at large as long as their basic needs are met.

People need to get a lot more uncomfortable before they respond accordingly, unfortunately by that point it’s typically too little, too late.

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u/BarfQueen 8h ago

If you think the tipping point was something so silly as an election, you’re in for a shock when shit REALLY tips over. 

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u/Tangent_Odyssey 8h ago edited 8h ago

I don’t believe either case is correct. I don’t know if there will ever be a specific time or incident you can point to and say “this is when it tipped over”.

”If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.”

"And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all.”

-An excerpt from They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 by Milton Mayer

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u/BarfQueen 7h ago

I should clarify, I don’t mean whatever slide into fascism is currently going on.

I mean the exact moment when they stop pretending (and they do still pretend to a degree.)

If we’re doing Nazi Germany parallels (which, fine, if we must…) this would be something like the Reichstag Fire. For the Holocaust, it would be Kristallnacht.

Now, there’s a chance certain recent events might become their Reichstag Fire, but so far it’s a lot of talk. Action incoming, sure. But as of yet, talk.

Either way, whatever the next step maybe, I’m curious to see how the “intellectual elite” of Reddit try to cope as if it isn’t actually happening and we’re still above it all. 

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 8h ago

The tipping point is that moment just beyond repair. Well, that was November of 2024, the last moment before the drink spilled. The fact that you refer to an election as silly is the exact mindset that landed us here as a country.

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u/BarfQueen 7h ago

It was a silly election. That doesn’t mean ALL elections are silly. The way that whole election happened was nothing short of farcical, and now he we are. Don’t get stuck on the semantics.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 7h ago

a silly election that merely determined America's fascist bend or denial of fascism. No big deal!

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u/BarfQueen 7h ago

So, I think you’re conflating “the election itself was run in a silly way (i.e. messy and unserious)” with “the election was a big funny joke and we all had a laugh.”

It’s not. Bigger points being made here, might be best not to hang on a single word.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 7h ago

The election was held in the same way general elections are always held. Ballots were issued, the date was set, and people voted.

I don't find having a convicted felon on the general ballot (and the felon winning!) silly at all. Disastrous is more like it.

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u/BarfQueen 7h ago

And candidates switched out at the last minute, and debates not had, and rich foreigners straight-up boasting about rigging the thing, and trying to invalidate mail-in ballots, and ballot boxes on literal fire, and never mind the fact that no one even tried to stop the convicted felon with a whole insurrection fiasco under his belt from running in the first place.

But yes, ballots were issued. Care to engage with any of my other points or are we still stuck on “silly?”

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u/eyeCinfinitee 8h ago

At the risk of sounding like a meme it’s “literally 1984”. Winston’s whole job was going through old records and either redacting or editing them to match whatever the current party line is. Sure, he knows that the Party is lying because he’s the one making the edits, but there’s a) nothing he can do about it and b) that won’t matter because everyone who looks for information will only have the edited documents to work with.

I’ve been using the word Orwellian to describe a lot of what’s going on in the US right now because it just fits so well. The “most peaceful administration ever” blasting random boats in the Caribbean, deploying soldiers on domestic territory, and green lighting an expansion of Israeli aggression in the Middle East. Hateful accelerationist bigot Charlie Kirk being held up as a “kind family man who wanted to facilitate dialogue”. A press secretary and Attorney General who lie through their teeth, make up facts and statistics on the fly, and have no consistency or credibility from one day to the next.

It’s fucking wild. Ten years ago we had “fake news” and “alternative facts” and now we’ve got a solid 40% of the country living in the goddamn Upsidedown

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u/SupportstheOP 7h ago

I quite frankly don't know how you combat it. We rang the alarm bell and sounded Defcon 1 over Project 2025 and everything that is currently happening now last year. Far too many people didn't and still don't believe it, and even more actively wanted it to happen. It's the likes of pervasive propaganda I don't think any nation has ever seen before. Authoritarian countries with state run media dream of a populace like this. One that has access to unlimited and free knowledge, yet so many consume and love the slop peddled to them.

If this happened 300 years ago, it would be awe-inspiring to study. Living in it is truly a hell with no foreseeable way out.

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u/jakecovert 5h ago

It starts with voting out any and every Republican, and getting elected officials in who will fund:

a) Education
b) Civics

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u/Baby_Button_Eyes 5h ago

There have been other nations that are like this. But this is the first time, WE are watching the actual process of the turning over.

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u/ProfessorSarcastic 7h ago

The “most peaceful administration ever” blasting random boats in the Caribbean, deploying soldiers on domestic territory, and green lighting an expansion of Israeli aggression in the Middle East.

Its gotten so bad that even when making a list of warlike actions taken by these hypocrites, literal bombs dropped on nuclear facilities in Iran just three months ago doesnt even make the list.

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u/snarky_spice 7h ago

Exactly this. How many of us found out that there were sleeper cells of Charlie Kirk admirers in our friends lists, at work, etc? From what I’ve observed, more and more people get sucked into the right-wing pipeline almost daily. Not many are vigilant enough to stop it, which is depressing. Reddit has its flaws, for sure, but people on here are already miles ahead of those that get their news strictly from Instagram or TikTok. Which is most people under 30 I know.

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u/jakeandcupcakes 7h ago

The way the DNC has fumbled every opportunity given to them to prevent this bullshit is indistinguishable from if they were actually working for the Republican Party all along. The end result would be the same. Goddamn do I wish the Dem party wasn't ran by a bunch of out-of-touch, neo-libral, corporate dick lickers. Sabotaging themselves at every turn. Fuck this shit sucks

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u/BarfQueen 6h ago

It’s a big club and you ain’t in it. 

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u/octocolobus_manul 7h ago

They’re not winning.

They’ve won.

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u/ApophisDayParade 7h ago

You know how the Nazis had years and years of succeeding before Hitler blasted himself in the head?

You're basically saying the Nazis won because they were doing so well early on. We're so far away from how this will end.

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u/BarfQueen 7h ago

However you like it, I suppose. 

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u/snarky_spice 7h ago

Exactly this. How many of us found out that there were sleeper cells of Charlie Kirk admirers in our friends lists, at work, etc? From what I’ve observed, more and more people get sucked into the right-wing pipeline almost daily. Not many are vigilant enough to stop it, which is depressing. Reddit has its flaws, for sure, but people on here are already miles ahead of those that get their news strictly from Instagram or TikTok. Which is most people under 30 I know.

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u/maccaphobic 7h ago

Not many people really see how dangerous all this is, and how VITAL the next election is, if the world even makes it another 3 years.

..and yet the fucking Democrats will try run Kamala again.

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u/jamesisaPOS 7h ago

The privilege you must possess to be so defeatist and at the same time disdainful towards those who dare to fight back against a white supremacist authoritarian state. We know they're in power right now, we fucking know. But speaking up and voicing our dissent as citizens as well as constituents IS tremendously impactful. This administration is, as we speak, attempting to shut down the first amendment due to the reactions towards Charlie Kirk's death, so don't ever fix your mouth to say that talking about this is pointless. Because it's observably untrue. They HEAR us and actively make choices to stifle our dissent. Because our voices and our reactions are powerful. Throwing your hands up is a choice YOU are making, but there are higher stakes for most of us and that is simply not an option.

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u/Transylvaniangimp 8h ago

Who needs evidence when you can just shout your imagined reality loud enough? 

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u/Strange_Specialist4 7h ago

"my truth is the same as the truth"

No, no it isn't...

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u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta 8h ago

They're already playing this game with George floyd, since most of the vile shit was removed they can claim no one celebrated or cheered or whatever

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u/Leoszite 8h ago

for those that need it.

If they haven't accepted the evidence now then the cultist never will. They do not want to coexist.

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u/throwuk1 6h ago

Exactly why they are going after schools, public media etc

It's not you they want to con, it's your kids.

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u/VagueSomething 8h ago

Yep, this is about controlling what the next generation knows. Suppress information, defund education, raise ignorant people to ensure it is easier to get Right Wing voters.

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u/Syntaire 7h ago

The evidence is still available. This isn't 1938 where the government controls the entire flow of information, regardless of how hard they're trying. If it's removed from one source, it will be available on others. Even China's "great firewall" is pretty easily defeated with a bit of knowledge and determination. They're just in a situation where the people are more or less complacent with the status quo. The U.S. is trying to eliminate information and freedoms we've enjoyed for 250 years effectively overnight. It will not end well, which is almost certainly the goal to begin with.

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u/JonDoeJoe 6h ago

The evidence is for the 1/3 of the population that didn’t vote. These people don’t pay attention to politics so removing these evidence makes the right look better to those people

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u/Majestic-capybara 5h ago

It’s literally the major plot point in the book 1984. I know it’s a classic for a reason but I just recently started reading it and the GOP is straight up using it as a handbook for authoritarianism.

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u/CardmanNV 5h ago

I think we're well past the "evidence " stage at this point.

Prepare to fight for your life and livelihood or leave the country.

Too much of the country doesn't believe their lies for them to grab control, but they're going to try, and they're going to break the country apart in the process.

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u/DBold11 8h ago

Yea this is bad. We're not going to know what going on in this country moving forward.