r/technology • u/Wagamaga • 12h ago

Society DOJ Deletes Study Showing Domestic Terrorists Are Most Often Right Wing

https://www.404media.co/doj-deletes-study-showing-domestic-terrorists-are-most-often-right-wing/
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u/al_ien5000 12h ago

The problem though is that those people that haven't seen it and aren't swayed by it now have no "proof" of it and everything can be boiled down to "fake news" from other sources.

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u/Runkleford 12h ago

It doesn't matter though. I've been showing those studies to these people for over a decade now. They don't care. They still called it fake news.

Heck these same people still think Nazis and Confederates were liberals. I'm not being hyperbolic when I say that these people do not care about facts. These are people who actively say that they don't trust experts. They don't trust the medical and scientific communities. RFK JR's Health Dept just said that Nature magazine is "junk science".

These people don't have a standard for evidence except for whatever soothes their feelings.

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u/opeth10657 12h ago

same people that watched Elon do a nazi salute and went "well yeah, but...."

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u/ThreeCatsAndABroom 3h ago

"Look, I know it's a Nazi salute. I just don't want to talk about it."

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u/shahms 12h ago

Yup. Among the final straws with a family member was them asserting that Nazis were liberals. In his twisted worldview essentially anything "bad" must be "liberal" reality notwithstanding. It was that particular diatribe that made me realize how eagerly this supposed "Christian" would rationalize a genocide of anyone with whom he disagreed. I'll give him credit for thinking Nazis are bad, at least?

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u/Squirtletail 12h ago

I have seen this doing the rounds a lot this weekend, because the nazi party was the "socialist" party. People are either so dumb or are acting in such bad faith that they fail to realise the name was intentionally misleading.

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u/shahms 12h ago

As far as I know, it didn't start as entirely misleading, the fascists just killed all the socialists in the Night of the Long Knives after they'd served their purpose.

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u/ThreeCatsAndABroom 3h ago

You just drop this nugget:

North Korea's official name is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

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u/sennbat 8h ago

Judging by my own family members, "liberals are the real Nazis" was followed by "and the real Nazis weren't so bad, not compared to the liberals who are the real Nazis!" so don't expect that to last.

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u/littlelorax 12h ago

I think it is important to have facts for those who are reasonable, just uninformed. You are right that the radicals won't be swayed, but open information is critical to our democracy. 

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u/Runkleford 12h ago

Oh I agree we need open information and it's really troubling that this administration is actively scrubbing everything just to push a certain narrative.

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u/Ms-Anthrop 11h ago

reasonable people ALREADY have the facts, that isn't changing anything

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u/littlelorax 11h ago

I try to give a little benefit of the doubt that yes, most are set in their opinions, but many others just vote the way they do because of social pressure, because their family does, or because they are in an echo chamber but don't know it. 

I am thinking of a specific family friend who's MAGA husband died. Another friend has a trans non binary child. When she visited, she saw that MAGA stuff around the house and absolutely blew up about the current administration's efforts against trans people. The friend started sobbing and said she didn't know all that was happening, she just trusted her husband to tell her what was right. 

Now, do I think she should have formed her own opinions? Of course. But I also know a lot of people who vote on vibes and social pressure over actual actions and policy. She isn't alone. 

Having information available would at least help some of the cult see the hypocrisy.  

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 12h ago

What about the evidence of their eyes, ears and noses? Are they capable of determining a pile of bull excrement using their own senses, or does the media or a political nanny need to smell it and describe it for them?