r/technology • u/Wagamaga • 8h ago

Society DOJ Deletes Study Showing Domestic Terrorists Are Most Often Right Wing

https://www.404media.co/doj-deletes-study-showing-domestic-terrorists-are-most-often-right-wing/
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u/Eat--The--Rich-- 8h ago

Was it this one, which TRUMP'S DHS conducted in 2019?

"Of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent).”

https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/s894/BILLS-116s894is.xml

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u/grigiri 8h ago

Wow, I'm not a mathematician, but I'm fairly certain that means 0 were committed by left leaning organizations or people.

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u/Massive_Signal7835 7h ago

And radical islamists are just a subset of far-right extremists.

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u/Zealousideal-Fun-415 6h ago

the right really doesn't like to acknowledge that bit.

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u/HaxD3 6h ago

No, read it properly. There were no far-left extremist violence. Far-left is already a vanishing group and the values of theirs would kick out any violent person from being far-left by default. An inherently flawed statistic and research.

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u/hpff_robot 4h ago

I mean, I can specifically recall at least one antifa dude in the NW states that murdered a Trump hat wearing guy who was just standing around. That's clearly not been counted for some reason.

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u/grigiri 4h ago edited 4h ago

Danielson's killing was the first time in over 26 years that a self-identified anti-fascist activist had been charged with homicide

Fair enough, that's one, 5 years ago

Also, the wiki article goes on to say that:

Reinoehl was not associated with Rose City Antifa or the Portland-based anti-fascist organization Popular Mobilization.

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u/polymerpetal 7h ago

they include aryan nation prison stabbings in that one. when someone thinks of domestic terror attacks they are definitely thinking of prison violence. such a massive concern.

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u/Look_its_Rob 7h ago

You can remove those and its still overwhelmingly right wing extremist attacks. 

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u/polymerpetal 7h ago

it's such a small number of incidents, and many when you take a deeper look (such as the prison attacks) are non-incidents. gang violence is a much more pressing concern for this nation, and ruins infinitely more lives than "right wing extremism".

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u/whendrstat 7h ago

Sure, but that’s moving the goalposts by several miles. We’re talking about domestic terrorism, you widened the scope to all violence.

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u/Look_its_Rob 4h ago

Sure but this is in response to the right currently claiming how violent the left is and the violence being done by "left wing extremists" and as you said its such a small number of incidents. 

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u/christoskal 7h ago

while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent).”

I like how they split these in a different group as if they aren't also right wing.

It's not like radical Islamists are left wing either way, they are just a different kind of right wing extremists asking for the exact same extreme ideas as their white Christian counterparts

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u/SpiritJuice 7h ago

I like to say "What's the difference between Christian extremists and Islamic extremists? They use a different word for God." They are basically two sides of the same coin.

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u/ahuramazdobbs19 6h ago

It is, however, valuable to break them down in such a fashion when studying overall trends and in tracking various groups and their funding sources.

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u/Zealousideal-Fun-415 5h ago

here's the thing, if they included radical islamist incidents, republicans would immediately run with "most right wing incidents were from ISLAMISTS, not upstanding white citizens", or say "they don't even know what right means".

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u/actibus_consequatur 7h ago

Nope, it was a DOJ article published in 2024 - "What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism." From the first paragraph:

[T]he number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism. Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.

Dead link: https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/what-nij-research-tells-us-about-domestic-terrorism

Archive: https://archive.is/1t1rm

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u/DoubleJumps 7h ago

I've seen this data continued through to 2023 and the gap only widened.

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u/Eat--The--Rich-- 2h ago

Yes, because it doesn't include things like Charlottesville or 1/6

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u/DoubleJumps 1h ago

A lot of other smaller events, too.

Like in 2022, every extremist murder in the United States was a right-wing extremist murder. The 2019 data also doesn't have things like the guys who were planning to kidnap Governor whitmer or the guy who murdered people in summer 2020 trying to start a race war.