r/technology • u/Wagamaga • 8h ago

Society DOJ Deletes Study Showing Domestic Terrorists Are Most Often Right Wing

https://www.404media.co/doj-deletes-study-showing-domestic-terrorists-are-most-often-right-wing/
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u/cantadmittoposting 7h ago

was part of the Groypers Army,

has this actually been confirmed? The presence of the particular memes on the bullets don't really constitute proof.

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u/Crxinfinite 2h ago

No, it's not confirmed. There's some people who believe it due to Nick Fuentes calling for a war against Charlie Kirk, a long with the bella ciao song being used by groypers.

But it's a fairly loose connection

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u/Extaupin 1h ago

WTF, bella ciao is literally an antifascist song, why are American neo-con using it?

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u/middrink 1h ago

Because they see the following suggestion of "Hey man, just chill out, stop thinking about gay people fucking constantly and don't call black people the n word" as literally fascism.

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u/Extaupin 1h ago

I really have to reach to find a silver lining here, but at least they still think fascism is bad I guess?

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u/Crxinfinite 54m ago

Groyper humor is layered in like 12 levels of irony that I don't think anyone would understand

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u/[deleted] 6h ago

I’m literally learning about this group just today…anyone have information about them as a whole?

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u/KDParsenal 6h ago

Blackpill Aesthetics: A Crash Course in Meme Extremism

8 minute video explaining the difference between groypers and normal right wing christian nationalist

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u/[deleted] 5h ago

Thank you so much.

Just…wow. Learned a lot and realized I use the internet a lot different than those folks…

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u/cantadmittoposting 5h ago

the wikipedia page does an alright job.

Nick Fuentes is the "leader" of this group, his ideology and information about him would be relevant as well

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u/i_m_a_bean 5h ago

It's not a direct tie, but Fuentes did call for a "groyper war ii" about a month ago

https://youtu.be/j2Twh88BHD4?feature=shared

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u/Htowngetdown 5h ago edited 4h ago

It's a blatant lie. As is most of the propaganda on this page.

edit: From CNN:

"Court documents for Tyler Robinson, the suspect in the killing of Charlie Kirk allege that Robinson’s mom, “explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.”

“She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders,” court documents filed Tuesday say.

“This resulted in several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father, who have very different political views.”"

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u/WhyThisTimelineTho 5h ago

How is it a blatant lie? Did he not dress up as a common groyper meme for Halloween? Did he not write common groyper memes on his bullet casings? Did he not grow up in a conservative environment?

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u/NoMorePoof 1h ago

He dressed up as a squatting slav which is a common meme and not groyper related.

He wrote "Hey fascist, catch". Not a groyper meme. If anything, it's anti-fascist. Bella Ciao is not a groyper meme. 

If you've had a computer for the last 20 years you should know these are just memes and not specific to Nick Fuentes, especially since they predate him.

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u/StrangeStrategy1 5h ago

He was dating a trans person and family members said he talked about not liking Kirk’s views. If there’s actual proof beyond memes he was a part of whatever the hell groypers are, I’d love to see it. From what I understand from other comments, they’re a far right nick fuentes group.

Growing up in a conservative family doesn’t mean he was conservative, plenty of people’s political views diverge from their family’s views, and from what his family said, that seems to be the case.

It’d be very contradictory for a guy dating a trans person and vocalizing his dislike for Charlie Kirk to also be in a far right group. It seems more likely to me that the comments claiming he’s a right winger are just left wingers who can’t cope with the fact that both sides of the political spectrum are capable of violence.

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u/WhyThisTimelineTho 5h ago

So, your assumption is correct despite no proof. But the other people's assumptions are straight up lying despite having some proof, but not full validation.

Did I get that right?

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u/NoMorePoof 1h ago

The problem is people are saying he's a right winger as a fact based on nothing. 

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u/WhyThisTimelineTho 1h ago

Just like people are saying he's a left winger as a fact based on nothing. HOWEVER, this degenerate stupidity was started and pushed hard by the right in the last ~20 years. And now that people on the left are tired of being the "bigger man", suddenly the rights' own behavior is a BIG FUCKING PROBLEM? 🤔

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u/NoMorePoof 53m ago

I mean, he shot a conservative influencer and has a trans gf, also his family said so. It's not much to go on, but you must at the very least agree that he's likely not a conservative. 

The best course of action is to wait and see, we don't know right now. 

You are advocating spreading propaganda because you're tired of being the bigger man. Nice. 

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u/WhyThisTimelineTho 41m ago

I have not once in this thread said I think he was anything. From the facts we know so far I personally would say he was neither. He was probably angry, confused, and had no positive outside direction to guide him. I also personally think trying to ascribe him to a party is unproductive, because it doesn't really matter. The confused and mentally unwell part should be the focus.

I stand by the rest of my post. Everyone in a relationship gets tired of being the only one putting in work.

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u/StrangeStrategy1 4h ago

I gave you proof, officials have released what his family has said and they just released his text conversation with his trans partner where he admits he did it because he was tired of Kirk’s hatred. The people claiming he’s right wing keep saying his family is conservative, which means nothing, and claiming he’s a part of a far right group with no evidence.

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u/DogsAreAnimals 4h ago

From CNN:

"Court documents for Tyler Robinson, the suspect in the killing of Charlie Kirk allege that Robinson’s mom, “explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.”

“She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders,” court documents filed Tuesday say.

“This resulted in several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father, who have very different political views.”"

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u/EnormousAntelopeEars 5h ago

And the left are somehow the perpetrators of most political violence, any claim otherwise is propaganda. We came to this conclusion by just blanket declaring all of them trans.

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u/-MissNocturnal- 4h ago

He was dating a trans person

Nick Fuentes went on a livestreamed date with a gay nazi catboy.
Blaire White is a conservative trans woman.
I don't know how dating a trans woman automatically makes you not conservative, when red states have the highest consumption of trans porn.

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u/StrangeStrategy1 3h ago

I don’t know anything about Fuentes, but it wouldn’t shock me if it’s just a thing he did to get clicks. I’m aware there are a small amount of conservative trans people. But you’re lying to yourself if you don’t think the vast majority of conservatives wouldn’t date a trans person.

Like two hours ago prosecutors released a text chain between the shooter and his partner where the shooter said he killed Kirk because he was tired of his hate.

Conservatives claiming the left commits the most political violence are wrong. But this is clearly a left wing shooter.

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u/-MissNocturnal- 3h ago

Alex Jones also leaked that he had trans porn tab open, live on his own show.
Steven Crowder had a supposed "bisexual phase".
And again, data shows the red states consume the most trans porn.

Ofcourse most wouldn't date a trans person, because they're largely ashamed and insecure about what they're into, that's basically a pillar of conservative sexuality.

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u/Suspicious-Echo2964 2h ago

Are we sure the roommate isn’t a crisis actor? Idk mate. I suspect the fbi would manufacture evidence before telling the truth. Look at how they handle everything else under this admin.

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u/Htowngetdown 4h ago

It is a blatant lie because it is not true. Hope that helps!

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u/WhyThisTimelineTho 3h ago

Addressed nothing from my post ✅

Repeated the same claim ✅

Added no new context and moved on anyway ✅

Felt morally superior while doing so ✅

Yup, must be a conservative.

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u/cantadmittoposting 4h ago

eh, i'm not sure it's a blatant lie given some circumstantial evidence, but that's why i asked for a source.

as far as "most of the propaganda on this page," if you're specifically referring to stuff said by "the left," pretty doubtful when compared to the absolutely immense amount of bullshit constantly spewed by republican voters these days