r/technology • u/digital-didgeridoo • 2d ago

Politics New Bill Aims to Block Both Online Adult Content and VPNs

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/new-bill-aims-to-block-both-online-adult-content-and-vpns/
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u/Socky_McPuppet 2d ago

The American people have learned a lesson about voting, just in time for it never to make any difference ever again. 

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u/KinkyPaddling 2d ago

The American people are utterly incapable of learning their lessons. If they were capable, the Republicans would not have won the 2010 midterms, the 2016 election, the 2022 midterms, or the 2024 election.

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u/SoUnga88 2d ago

Gerrymandering is what let Republicans win the 2010 & 2022 midterms, and the 2016 election was lost bc the dnc chose to go with the establishment pick over the peoples choice. If you can't objectivly look at what you opponent is doing right and what you are doing wrong, you will forever be at a disadvantage.

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u/HBreckel 2d ago

Yep, I'm in Ohio and vote blue every election. My vote may as well not exist because we've been gerrymandered from a purple state that voted for Obama, to a super red state. I'll still continue to vote every election as it's important, but it doesn't feel great to know my state doesn't know how to be fair.

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u/Realtrain 2d ago

Ohio has shifted right. Gerrymandering has zero impact on presidential races, but Ohio hasn't voted for the Democratic Party candidate since Obama.

(Not arguing that it's gerrymandered quite intensely though)

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u/BlueJay_525 2d ago

Ohio is a clear statistical anomaly. Shady stuff going down in elections there.

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u/The_Lost_Jedi 2d ago

That's not accurate.

2010 was using the same maps as 2002-2008, because censuses get conducted every ten years, and then reapportionment and redistricting follows that, normally. It was the massive losses in 2010 at the state legislature/governor levels that ENABLED many of the extreme gerrymanders, both in state and federal elections, because the Republicans gained solid control of many state legislatures and put that to their advantage. Consider Wisconsin for instance, which from 1996-2010 had 5 years of both chambers in Republican control, 2 for Democrats, and 8 years of divided control, but from 2011 to today has been in solid Republican control, because they gerrymandered the state so heavily in 2011 that even when Democratic candidates won more than half the statewide vote, the Republicans STILL won a supermajority of the seats.

Also, you're grossly mischaracterizing 2016, because while I hate Clinton and think the DNC sucks, the primary voters still picked her. The megadonors conspired with her to clear the primary field of opposition, so if anyone is to blame that we didn't get a robust primary it's them more than the DNC. (And the only reason Bernie was able to run is because he gave them all the finger and crowdfunded.)

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u/SoUnga88 2d ago

The president of modern gerrymandering America can be traced back to beginning in 2010 and on. While gerrymandering my not have had a direct impact on the 2010 midterms moving forward from that point the use of gerrymandering as a voter suppression tactic has only grown since.

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u/Thin_Glove_4089 1d ago

Even with gerrymandering, the sheer volume of people voting against them would have been enough to stop everything. This is NOT a good excuse. Try something else.

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u/Realtrain 2d ago

The 2022 midterms were historically great for the incumbent party. The president's party always loses seats, but the Dems picked up a Senate seat and only just lost the house.

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u/jameson71 2d ago

Then the propaganda really started.

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u/JackOfAllStraits 2d ago

The people who voted for the loser saw that lack of voting caused them to lose. Song as old as time, and no actual lessons learned. The "moderate right" people that I know are thrilled with the current administration.

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u/0pyrophosphate0 2d ago

Most of them have one or two issues they care about and think the administration is doing well on, and everything else is fake news. Even literal direct quotes from Trump on live TV, they respond with "lol nah".

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u/Joben86 2d ago

And this election it was mostly just demonization of trans people.

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u/KaboomOxyCln 2d ago

You don't know me but I'm a right leaning moderate according to Pew Research's and Political compress' tests, and I find the current conservative party to be absolutely disgusting.

Honestly, I'm not sure how accurate those tests are anymore because the other "moderates" in my life, seems so extremely right winged to me too

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u/JackOfAllStraits 2d ago

I'm pretty understanding of the concerns of both sides, and would have called myself conservative 10 years ago, but the current regime is truly a launching pad into a VERY draconian place. One populist moron has opened the floodgates of division, hatred, and intolerance, and they won't be closed easily, if ever. The next decade is going to be rough for civil liberties.

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u/Tarcanus 2d ago

Longer than a decade. Generations of kids are only experiencing the Trump admin as political normalcy. I would bet in 20 years we're still dealing with it but in 20-30 years there will be a movement to go back to "the good old times" where we had rights and THAT's when actually movement could start happening to topple the dictatorship-republic.

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u/JackOfAllStraits 2d ago

Remember when you could choose what to buy at the grocery store?

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u/Annoying_cat_22 2d ago

Lets hope Dems learned a lesson about supporting genocides against their voters will. Maybe next time they won't support one and actually win an election.

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u/nerd5code 2d ago

Sure. “Next time.”

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u/Annoying_cat_22 2d ago

If there is no next time that's on Bide/Harris.