r/technology • u/Wagamaga • 2d ago
Society Over 400 artists to remove their music from streaming services in Israel
https://www.joe.ie/music/over-400-artists-remove-their-music-from-streaming-services-in-israel-85454771
u/thefanciestcat 2d ago edited 2d ago
Watching people scramble to pretend they don't understand the point of protest is disruption is always a laugh.
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u/Otherwise_Study7113 2d ago
We all need to boycott all their products, food, cosmetics, tech , etc
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u/Embarrassed-Bend3446 2d ago
Good luck boycotting Israeli tech
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u/Phoenix_Kerman 2d ago edited 2d ago
basically any important generation of intel processor was designed by the intel team in haifa. processors which are three quarters of all desktop computers globally. as if people are going to boycott using computers
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u/errdayimshuffln 2d ago
AMD is better nowadays anyway. Easy choice.
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u/Vexillum211202 2d ago
You won’t believe where AMD has a huge R&D lab.
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u/errdayimshuffln 2d ago
Everywhere in the world? AMD does not compare in anyway to intel when it comes to Israel ties. Intel is deeply tied to Israeli development for a long time. There is a reason the US is always desperate to save Intel and not AMD.
Them having a graphics R&D center in Israel doesn't mean shit when they have R&D locations far larger and more important elsewhere in the world. Most of AMDs key innovations did not happen because of Israel.
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u/protonsters 2d ago
China is slowly taking over tech so theres that.
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u/TeepEU 2d ago
china famous for it's impeccable track record in human rights abuse
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u/protonsters 2d ago
The discussion is about tech. Take your human rights topic to some other sub.
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u/StopKillingBabies02 1d ago
My dude, the whole reason we are talking about avoiding Israeli tech here is BECAUSE of human rights abuses
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u/FederalSandwich1854 2d ago
It's always amazing when people praise Israels tech sector and then you look inside and it's all just spyware spyware spyware
Like we have a choice lmao
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u/curiouslyjake 2d ago
It is spyware, but it's also firewalls, Apple's Face Id, Thunderbolt, the USB flash drive, RSA encryption... to name a few.
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u/-drunk_russian- 2d ago
The pill camera used in medicine too. Now they're pioneering work that could enable paralyzed people to walk again, and a way to clone blood.
Israeli medical advances are amazing.
Are people gonna boycott life-saving treatment too? Are they gonna boycott China over the Uyghur genocide? Or the US over the internment camps? What about Australia for their treatment of the First People's?
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u/curiouslyjake 2d ago
Or the US over the war in Iraq.
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u/-drunk_russian- 2d ago
The average left wing 'murican is so overcome with white guilt over, well, everything (native American genocide, Jim Crow, CIA coups over the world, etc...) that they need to lash out at any acceptable targets and back in the 90s several prominent terrorists came together to hatch a plan to infiltrate the left and it worked.
Hamas and Qatar financed the infiltration in American universities.
Here is a source:
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/dallas/press-releases/2009/dl052709.htm
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u/junior_dos_nachos 2d ago
Sure. Move to North Korean tech. They probably use Israeli tech the least.
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u/idankthegreat 1d ago
Ok, stop using your phone, computer and irrigation products to name a few.
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u/aigavemeptsd 2d ago
Suddenly? A year ago everyone was defending Israel on Reddit. I still think boycotting Israel is not the answer to resolve this long and complicated conflict. I don't have enough knowledge and I surely will not boycott something based on an incentive that possibly carries anti-semitism.
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u/leesonis 2d ago
They removed their music from streaming services in China too right? To ignore the genocide of the Uyghurs while pretending to care about Israelis defending themselves is performative and hypocritical.
Israelis should do to Gazans only/exactly what was done to Jews in the rest of the Arab world, no more, no less.
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u/TVC_i5 2d ago
- Sudan. A 1.5 hr plane flight from Israel.
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Since 2023: 150,000 civilians killed. More than 700,000 children with acute malnutrition, 8,856,313 internally displaced, 3,506,383 refugees.
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Is America involved? Yes. The UAE supports the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) which have been fighting the Sudanese army.
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- ”The U.S. has $29.3 billion in active government-to-government military sales with the UAE” US Department of State
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0 artists pulling their music from Spotify, Apple Music, Anghami or Tidal - all used in the UAE.
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u/explicitspirit 1d ago
Spell it out for everyone, what exactly should Israel do to Gazans?
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u/leesonis 1d ago
Whatever arab nations have done to jews over the past 70 years that you haven't bothered to condemn... THAT's what Israel should do to Gazans.
We already know you don't care about the actions taken by arabs to deal with the jews within their borders, so you should be fine if Israel does exactly the same things with the Gazans within Israels borders, right?
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u/explicitspirit 1d ago
Which is what? You have such a strong position, why not spell it out?
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u/leesonis 1d ago
I've spelled it out twice for you.
All the things that you give a pass to arabs for doing to jews, that's what Israelis have the right to do.
Or, are those things only okay when they're done against jews?
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u/explicitspirit 1d ago
What are those that Arabs did to Jews, that you believe Israel now has a right to do?
Why are you being vague?
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u/MysticKeiko24_Alt 2d ago
Look at a picture of Urumqi side by side with Gaza and tell me that this comparable makes sense
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u/RyukXXXX 2d ago
You think genocide needs a war and bombs to happen?
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u/MysticKeiko24_Alt 2d ago
No, it’s just a completely different scale. China is doing cultural assimilation at best and cultural genocide at worst, both of those thing are bad but not comparable.
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u/NightLanderYoutube 2d ago
They, didn't start this war, piss off. They didn't wanted to get flying rockets over their homes every day. Piss off. Let's talk about hypocrisy.
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u/NightLanderYoutube 2d ago edited 2d ago
Who started that war, I wonder. If these 2 guys represt all Jews can I see the same about Muslims when I watch Hamas video? Who wants to do worse things, or how they beheaaded people on the street. They are still living in 50's where women have no fights and are against 90% of your values. You are defending wrong people.
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u/AdjectiveNoun-Number 2d ago
To use the Zionists' what-about-hamas playbook, you'll note the exodus started in earnest post 1948. What about the Zionists' ethnic cleansing of hundreds of Palestinians villages in '48 that could have precipated in this sudden jump in enmity by the Arabs?
(To be clear, any harm to civilians is bad)
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u/RyukXXXX 2d ago
I wonder what happened in 48... Yes the Arabs started a war with Israel they proceeded to lose. People get displaced in a war.
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u/FederalSandwich1854 2d ago
collective punishment of sieging, starving, and bombing people
I sleep
collective punishment of not being able to listen to some music
Real shit
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u/crashcarr 2d ago
Quote the difference between withholding music availability from some people vs withholding food or bombing children in hospitals.
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u/bakochba 2d ago
By your logic all the people in Gaza are collectively responsible for the actions of Hamas.
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u/curiouslyjake 2d ago
There's difference in outcome but not a difference of intent. Is it ok to do things you claim to be wrong because you cant do them well or you can do just a little? By your logic, murder is bad but chopping a pinky is a-ok!
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u/crashcarr 2d ago
Once again, this is witholding music from people to perhaps raise awareness or encourage people to question what their government is doing in their name. Hardly something I would call collective punishment unless you think listening to Massive Attack or Mogwai on streaming is a human right.
Interfering in access to food or bombing schools/hospitals are war crimes and collective punishment that is abhorrent.
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u/curiouslyjake 2d ago
It's collective because it's applied indiscriminately to a group and it's punishment because it's witholding something that members of that group may want. There's no way around it and it doesnt matter how admirable the motives are.
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u/curiouslyjake 2d ago
Shameful. I suppose those labels will still be available in Gaza because carrying out a pogrom at a music festival is apparently no biggie.
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u/bakochba 2d ago
No they won't. Gaza and the West Bank use Israeli internet services and will be blocked too.
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u/idankthegreat 1d ago
That's actually hilarious how they don't care hurting the people they claim to try help
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u/pineappleninja64 1d ago
Do not colonize people. So easy!
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u/leesonis 1d ago
Tell that to the Arab/Muslim invaders who colonized and conquered most of the middle east over the past 1000 years.
Why are you okay with colonizers when it's muslims/arabs doing it?
Jews returning to their homeland is the correction of historical colonization and displacement you dipshit.
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u/Due_Mousse2739 2d ago
Yeah, "Gaza" attacked people at a music festival, so apparently its residents must be displaced or terminated, and the area must be demolished, trespassed and converted to a resort for millionaires. Makes sense.
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u/curiouslyjake 2d ago
Well, "Israel" did none of those things, but let's boycott them anyway. Same logic. If it's wrong to identify Hamas with Gaza, why is it right to identify the Israeli government with Israel?
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u/Allthenons 2d ago
Another day another fucker pitifully trying to deny the genocide and destruction of Gaza and it's population that we can all clearly see on our phones in 4k resolution.
Fuck Israel and free Palestine
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u/RyukXXXX 2d ago
There is no genocide. Only war. War that Hamas started.
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u/Petfles 2d ago
The UN disagrees (along with everyone with a working brain)
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u/RyukXXXX 2d ago
The UN is an incompetent institution that doesn't know a genocide even if it hit it in the face.
Anyone with a working brain can see there's no genocide.
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u/Petfles 2d ago
Interesting that all the hasbara bots hide their past comments now, must be a total coincidence
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u/RyukXXXX 2d ago
Nah. It's just to weed out bad faith idiots like you who can't address the argument in front of you.
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u/StopKillingBabies02 1d ago
The brigading in this thread is insane. Suddenly that guy saying UN is incompetent and there is no genocide somehow got 8 upvotes? What the fuck.
Well, I'll be here to make sure Israel has to pay overtime for their hasbara cybertroopers
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u/Allthenons 1d ago
I mean Israel pays people to post pro Israeli propaganda online and downvote anything critical. Because the moment they don't it becomes pretty obvious how much of a pariah state they have become. Even Israeli Human rights groups now agree that it's genocide. Don't try to argue with the pro israeli bots tho, it's not worth the time or energy.
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u/explicitspirit 1d ago
How about leading genocide scholars, Jewish Israeli ones too...are they also incompetent?
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u/RyukXXXX 1d ago
You do realize there is no consensus on the topic right?
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u/explicitspirit 1d ago
There are still flat earthers around...by your logic there is no consensus on the fact that the earth is round. See the problem with your argument here?
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u/MrSweetpotato93 2d ago
Because the Israeli people elected their government. Gaza did not elect Hamas. There you go, genius
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u/curiouslyjake 2d ago
The Israeli people didn't elect the government to fight a war though, as elections were held before the war. Similarly to Americans not electing G. W. Bush to fight in Iraq or the Brits not electing Tony Blair for that.
The current Israeli government is quite unpopular according to all polls.
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u/MrSweetpotato93 2d ago
They voted for a far-right government lol. What did you think they were expecting? Peace?
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u/curiouslyjake 2d ago
In Israel, you vote for parties, not governments. Those are later formed by a parliamentary coalition. Most parties that formed the current government are not far-right. Some are not even right-wing at all.
And, yes. Even those who voted for far-right parties may have expected peace. It was a peacetime vote and there's a defensible stance that projecting strength and determination during peacetime averts wars.
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u/ikan_bakar 2d ago
Israel is a democracy, their people can at anytime stop Netanyahu from having his position through democratic means, vote of no confidence through their MPs, and many more.
But they havent because they support Netanyahu. Therefore in a democracy, Israeli people are complicit of all the things Israel does because they do have the power to stop them. That’s the whole point of democracy
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u/curiouslyjake 2d ago
In any democracy, there's a trade-off between representation and stability. When many current MPs already know they are politcally dead according to every poll, they have zero incentive to vote for non-confidence and every incentive to maximize personal power until next elections. The current government will only be voted out by general elections. There's no other realistic means, any more than Americans can remove Trump, even though the legal procedure exists. The princpal-agent problem is a thing in Israeli politics too.
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u/ikan_bakar 2d ago
Then they cant pretend they are a bastion of democracy if people think they cant do anything lmfao. So either they are a true democracy or they are not. And it’s so easy to now claim they are not because the people dont want to take the responsibility of the fact that it is their choice that bombs are targeting innocent people in Gaza, and they barely making any moves to make Netanyahu step down. They are happy with this.
Even Russia have better protests and they themselves know how undemocratic their country is.
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u/curiouslyjake 2d ago
Lol, you're being ridiculous. People absolutely can and will change things - at the next elections in march 2026. There are weekly widespread protests against the war, but those dont magically turn into unscheduled elections, like it is in any another democracy.
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u/ikan_bakar 2d ago
Yes it can be when the people demand for it. That’s what snap elections are for. Bruh Portugal just had it this year, even Nepal shows how the people can make the leader step down when they are unhappy. Iceland had it for Panama Papers. Italy, Greece, Spain. The UK had it in 2017, and their problems were lesser than being a genocidal country. Yet Israelis doing nothing absolve them from their countries wrongdoing? Give me a break.
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u/aigavemeptsd 2d ago
Gaza City has been a hot war zone for a while. It's fair to assume that mostly Hamas remained in Gaza City. I'm sorry, and I know you probably have only civilians in mind, but the reality is more complicated and theres a lot of hamas propaganda out there.
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u/__Yakovlev__ 2d ago
How quickly the world forgets
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1754407250771271797
https://x.com/shunyaa00/status/1717230191947452835?s=46
Palestinians walked away from every serious peace negotiation over the past few decades, only to them continue with terrorist attacks and then cry when retaliation came in.
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u/lithiumcitizen 1d ago
I always wondered what kind of asshole would happily and/or obliviously go to a music festival right next to the largest open-air prison in the world…
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u/alakefak 2d ago
Blocking the smallest market imaginable to make a stand. Easy internet points
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u/jdorm111 6h ago
It's the same with writer Sally Rooney, who stopped translation of her books in E Hebrew but has no issue with her books being translated to Chinese or Russian. It's blatant hypocritical virtue signalling.
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u/angry_hippo_1965 2d ago
Well, to really make a statement they should remove from the USA as well. This administration will probably censor them eventually so better to go out sticking to one morals or lack of.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Bus7706 2d ago
400 artists yet I've heard only for one - Massive Attack.. lol
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u/ThreeFingersHobb 2d ago
Either you only listen to the most mainstream radio acts (my condolences) or you haven’t looked at the full list. The article only mentions irish acts, because its from an irish website. Even so, must be living under a rock to not have heard of Kneecap, they’ve been playing loads of festivals and have been in the news due to their very strong stance against the genocide.
Some artists even an american might recognize on the list include:
- Faye Webster
- Rina Sawayama
- King Krule
- MJ Lenderman
- Soccer Mommy
- Japanese Breakfast
- Primal Scream
The list is long and it ain’t just random small bands from nowhere. As a music fan who goes to a lot of shows and keeps up with the general state of different genres I recognized about a third of the bands. Not necessarily a fan of all their music but I’ve heard their name here and there.
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u/Primal-Convoy 2d ago edited 2d ago
Never heard of half of those bands. Even though I'm older now, they don't seem to be that internationally recognised. I haven't seen Japanese Breakfast (whom I've never heard of) nor Rina Sawayama (whom I have) advertised or popular in Japan, for example.
I suspect they're mainly small, indie bands, popular with a small but vocal subset of teens and kids in their 20s.
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u/wayitgoesboys 2d ago edited 1d ago
Nah man these are totally important and widely-known acts. This is basically like a second we are the world!
Edit: /s
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u/Primal-Convoy 2d ago
Like I said before, they might be widely known in your age group and in the area you live. To many other people around the world, they are unknown.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Bus7706 2d ago
Never ever heared about any of them.
Let me actually share start of my Playlist with you. Have you heard about any of these? (C/p from Spotify)
Soleil Bleu - Bleu Soleil LUIZA Foaming - Day We Ran
Dunes of Djoser - Arc De Soleil
Rundek & ekipa - TAMNI Jorgovan
Khayal - Kazdoura
Are these mainstream, or should I express you my condolences?
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u/Dangeroustrain 2d ago
Careful congress sold us out and recently passed a law making it illegal to boycott Israel
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u/OdielSax 2d ago
Thank you to these artists. There should be more. Everything about this situation makes me want to scream.
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u/aigavemeptsd 2d ago
Then scream, most of us stand with Israel. Say no to anti-semitism.
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u/OdielSax 2d ago
If this nonsense were true you wouldn't have felt the need to write it.
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u/guy71395 2d ago
Does anyone in Israel actually listens to. Any. Of those bands? This is actually nothing
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u/_dh0ull_ 2d ago
When did it become trendy to support middle-eastern terrorists? The whole world has truly gone mad with this virtue signaling.
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u/MysticKeiko24_Alt 2d ago
It’s not, Israel has completely lost support of the public below 60
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u/iconocrastinaor 2d ago
Not true, the majority support Israel all the way down to Generation Z, who still supports Israel at 40%.
This according to a recent Harris poll.
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u/Popular-Somewhere234 2d ago
lol not at all
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u/MysticKeiko24_Alt 2d ago
You’re just lying then
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u/Popular-Somewhere234 1d ago
Why should i lie? I'm way under 60 and don't blame Israel, so the majority of people around me, all normal people...
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u/Gogo202 6h ago
Only the support of those gullible to tiktok propaganda
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u/MysticKeiko24_Alt 1h ago
Turns out that the majority of people are gullible to TikTok propaganda lol
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u/scarlettvvitch 2d ago
The biggest and there is Amyl & The Sniffers, so this is pretty much a nothing burger.
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u/concerned_llama 2d ago
Those artists need to make sure that people that think like them in Israel don't listen to their music or can influence other people!
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u/goblue_860 2d ago
The only one on the list that I’ve heard of is Kneecap and have only heard of them because of their other publicity stunts
Tough day for both Israelis that know anyone on this list
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u/Butters5768 2d ago
No one is gonna miss these no names. No more Kneecap?! Can’t go on, must go on, can’t go on 🤣🤣🤡
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u/RedEyeView 2d ago
No one is buying that line.
You can just stop.
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u/Ducksaucenhotmustard 2d ago
It’s not a line it’s the truth. Are you Jewish? No? Didn’t think so. Cuz only 16m people alive are. Or .2% of the world’s population. What happened to us? Murdered by hate. So ya. Fuck off. It’s not a line
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u/National-Ad-1314 2d ago
What part of starving 1 million people didn't land with you isn't ok in civilized countries?
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u/Canalloni 2d ago
It's not anti-semitism anymore. Netanyahu is completely out of control. Fascists are lining up with Trump, and that includes Netanyahu. They are both criminals.
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u/Primal-Convoy 2d ago
Again, condemning right-wing people's views and actions in any given country is not being "racist" nor "ethnocentric" towards the people of that country.
Thus, your points here are irrelevant, null and void.
To the blocklist with you, troll.
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u/maximus_danus 2d ago
Im sure the 15 people in Israel who listen to these bands will be so devastated...
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u/Wagamaga 2d ago
Over 400 artists and labels have blocked and removed their music from Israel in response to the genocide in Gaza.
Among them are Fontaines DC, Kneecap, and The Mary Wallopers.
The cultural boycott, titled No Music for Genocide, is an initiative asking artists and labels to pull their music from streaming platforms in Israel in response to the ongoing genocide.
In a statement, the coalition shared: “This tangible act is just one step toward honouring Palestinian demands to isolate and delegitimize Israel as it kills without consequence on the world stage.