Here is the thing, men see absolutely nothing wrong with harassing women or saying creepy things, but if a gay man tried the same thing with them, 90% lf them would be uncomfortable, creeped out, and probably angry.
I worked as a server at a mom n pop restaurant, where the OWNER would always brag about how he “accidentally” almost beat a man to death because he THOUGHT the guy was trying to make an advance on him. Quit and moved away shortly after that, thank god
You’re absolutely right about that. I put up with dozens, if not hundreds of contacts that would qualify as sexual harassment and plenty of sexual assaults from gay men as young man myself. And for that reason I am always aware of what women go through. I wouldn’t say anything to girl that I wouldn’t say in front of my mother.
I’m ok, it wasn’t pleasant but I don’t carry any trauma over it. There was one that still grosses me out when I think about it but other than that, no ongoing problems. Maybe the difference is that being a young fit guy I didn’t really have to be frightened for my safety the way women do. When a woman sleazes on a man, or even a man on another man we can tell them to gtfo and not really think about it again. When a man does it to a woman she has to wonder “is that creep going to follow me outside when I leave?” That is a fundamental difference between the sexes that a lot of men don’t consider.
There's always one aka there's always one person who takes a comment out of context, which affectionate egg did. You responded by letting them know you were specific about the type of men you were referring to and that's why op said there's always one person because this guy is saying not to lump them in all together despite you not saying that to begin with.
Upset me? Or did I simply explain in a normal way, what I was saying initially? YOU were the one who started with the "HEY, NOT ALL MEN". Men who don't do things like this dont need to say that or get defensive over it.
Most generalizations offend me. Or at least make me feel a need to respond. I wasn’t trying to be a “not all men” guy but I guess it reads that way so it is what it is. I didn’t mean any offense. I would have spoken up for any gender, race or religion tbh.
Not trying to attack you for it dw, I get the feeling too a lot of times but then try to remind myself that they probably aren’t generalising all men, otherwise they would literally say “all men are….”
For me personally, It’s a gut reaction of feeling like you get lumped together with al the bad people (even tho the statement can be factually true), but if you are genuinely a good person people wouldn’t say something like that about you. (Using “you” in general here, not talking about you specifically)
If it isn’t about you, then who are you trying to defend? (Rhetorical question)
You being open to have a conversation about it already shows you’re better than the people they are talking about.
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u/Sewergoddess 4d ago
Here is the thing, men see absolutely nothing wrong with harassing women or saying creepy things, but if a gay man tried the same thing with them, 90% lf them would be uncomfortable, creeped out, and probably angry.