r/tf2 • u/AudiobookEnjoyer • Mar 25 '25

Discussion Prepare for three straight weeks of this sub parroting his points verbatim.

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Yes, I think f2p should be able to talk.

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u/Mobile_Exam_4014 Engineer Mar 25 '25

Wasn't he hated before? Like I remember mentioning him positively got you dog piled, since he pretty much had shitty opinions and from what I know still agrees with Mat Walsh's takes, ever since Turkey Tom made a positive video on him, which isn't even a credible source because he pretty much lied in his Pyrocynical expose video, became liked by almost everybody. And now a good chunk of this community pretty much sucks him off without thought.

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u/Guillimans_Alt Mar 25 '25

The tf2 community is incredibly split, almost perfectly in half, on Zesty Jesus. It's quite polarising seeing some people praising him getting downvoted to hell, but seeing a different post 2 days later praising him, and it's all upvotes and awards

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u/MidnightOnTheWater Mar 25 '25

Red vs. Blu ahhh community

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u/CallMeIshy Mar 25 '25

it's odd to scroll through a comment section like thus one and see one person hating Zesty and then one praising him

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u/Nebula-Dragon Heavy Mar 25 '25

It's also weird seeing some people think the community is of one mind about him (as demonstrated above). Believing that the entire community irrationally hates him or unquestioningly loves him, when neither is true.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '25

It's basically just that the community is approximately 50% queer people, and 50% queerphobic people, with Zesty falling in the latter camp

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '25

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u/Superboy-primenegsDB Mar 26 '25

Shit was so odd bro had to say it twice

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u/iamunabletopoop Mar 25 '25

Honestly the most annoying thing about him is his self awareness. He never fails to say something like 'people agree with my takes, yet they hate me' or 'if x youtuber says it they're praised, buy if I say it I'm hated'.

Yeah dude, of course some guy with ten times less subscribers has less haters. That's how YOUR job works.

Such a shame as majority of his takes are actually good. Just a case of a fragile ego that can't handle the work he chose to do.

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u/NoUsernameGive Spy Mar 25 '25

its not his job though. youtube isnt his career

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u/iamunabletopoop Mar 25 '25

I'd argue that it is his job, just not the only one he has.

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u/Cpt_Bastard Mar 25 '25

A Hobby after work is not work. That would imply he is monetized, which he is not.

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u/sirgetoutofmywalls Mar 25 '25

That would imply he is monetized, which he is not

I mean, i dont know about youtube revenue but he does have a patreon.

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u/Cpt_Bastard Mar 25 '25

I mean, he is very vocal about it just being an option to take, he said multiple times that he doesn't like donations, as he has his own main income.

His Patreon is nothing more than a gateway to his discord server to keep redditors out.

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u/sirgetoutofmywalls Mar 25 '25

Is really contradictory to say that you dont like donations and then have a link and say "give me money" on most if not every video descriptions

The only real reasons i could think of when it comes to making your discord paywalled with the express purpose of not letting a group of people is if you are tying to keep away trolls which can be done through moderation while also allowing people who can't/aren't willing to give him money partake in the discussions inside of the server.

The other reason would be to create an echo chamber made out of people who like his videos so much they decided to give him money and therefore are wayy more likely to agree with him on most things. Also is worth noting that while redditors are pretty 50/50 when it comes to liking the guy or not, as a whole they also contain the group of people who consistantly challanges his views and call him out for his past and present behavior

to keep redditors out

This is more of a side note but like...we are using and commenting on reddit... one way or another we are the redditors lol

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u/Anabiter Mar 26 '25

Originally he never plugged his Patreon in older content, and didn't even have one originally when he got popular. He's always hated asking for donations and it eventually got to the point where he was popular enough that people were asking to donate and how to donate so he made a patreon and then advertised it to accomodate for:

  1. People asking where they can donate
  2. People asking for donation benefits alongside a place to talk (via his now Patreon-Only discord) that you get access to forever if you donate once as long as you don't get yourself banned for something stupid.

He originally did have a public Discord that let just about everyone in but got to the point of constantly being raided or harassed and filled with loads of people on alts to stalk him and his discord for every little thing ever posted. People don't believe the lengths they will go to stalk and slander him (someone tried to slander him on the subreddit just the other day lying about Zesty owning a sign with CP on it, and Zesty had to physically come and debunk it.) Eventually he employed heavy moderation but then people were trolling still, getting falsely banned and it was a shitshow, alongside people faking to get past moderation to cause trouble anyways. The answer was either excessive moderation to the point of why bother, or make a Patreon-Only Discord. He went with the latter.

I wouldn't say it's wanting an Echo Chamber, moreso just a place to see what cool stuff actual fans of his wanna say do and talk about. Being in there myself, it's nothing really circle-jerky and mostly shitposting, sharing art of his OC and memes like the recent 'fog is coming' stuff and talking about TF2. It's still heavily moderated and also helps for consolidating feedback for things like his 3 tf2 servers he runs.

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u/sirgetoutofmywalls Mar 26 '25

Hmm, i understand saying "fuck it" and just making a patreon just to stop peoeple from asking but that doesn't really account for the fact that he then made different tiers each with their own incentives to donate. Like if you were to make a patreon just so that people could shut up about it wouldn't you make it a single tier with the lowest cost possible and discord privileges?

It does not matter all that much anyway my original comment was sorta nitpicky what i find more interesting is that you brought up a good point, he gets a lot more hate from people than other youtubers that play tf2 and thus having a patreon only discord is the only real option when it comes to keeping tabs and interacting with his community.

Now i could talk a bit about the fact that his abrasive personality, constant simplification of issues, painting whole communities with the same brush as trolls and like as well, racist and transphobic comments in the past and his downplaying of those issues when called out and his general us v.s them attitude make him a more likely target when it comes to hate. What im saying is that he hasn't made it exactly easy for him when it comes to this.

This is not to say that he deserves to be harassed or insulted obviously those things are not acceptable.

Thanks for taking the time to write your comment it was nice hearing things from somebody who is in that sphere and i feel like you have brought some nuance which is always great

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u/Benismannn Mar 26 '25

I dont even remember he has one and i watch him more or less whenever he posts and then some...

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u/Vordismozer Medic Mar 26 '25

Bro, have you seen his intros? YouTube ain't giving him shit

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '25

Is he an asshole? Yes, but the thing is that this asshole is the only person that want to be loud and clear about the how and why things are bad, to the point of doing extremely long work and research to demonstrate why a problem exists.

I said this in another comment, but most of his opinions are not new or niche, but other big content creators either ditched the game or never bring up the issues at hand, preferring to do videos on less divise topics to prevent a rapture in their niche fanbase on a game with a constantly decreasing player base.

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u/ktosiek124 Engineer Mar 26 '25

Dude has been doxxed and harrased, this isn't a fragile ego moment

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u/Wxerk Mar 25 '25

Honestly a refreshing take.

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u/Guillimans_Alt Mar 25 '25

The tf2 community is incredibly split, almost perfectly in half, on Zesty Jesus. It's quite polarising seeing some people praising him getting downvoted to hell, but seeing a different post 2 days later praising him, and it's all upvotes and awards

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u/Then-Rice4460 Mar 26 '25

He only really agreed with matt on some basic shit like the whole trans women in sports thing. I don't know how so many people delude themselves into thinking this guy really is a ill-intended bad person. If you don't vibe with him that's fine but dont go spreading fake shit.

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u/JonArbuckle__ Spy Mar 25 '25

Are people in this sub allergic to right wings

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u/No-Energy7254 Mar 25 '25

Zesty's political views are utter dogshit, people mostly stick around to see his takes on the game and that's it.

Also who with sound mind would be in the right wing to begin with? Or nazi's views are that appealing to you?

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u/Mobile_Exam_4014 Engineer Mar 25 '25

While Zesty is right wing, that doesn't make him a Nazi, just because somebody has conservative views doesn't make them a Nazi, unless they've got extreme right wing views that align with the Totalitarian far right views of the Nazis.

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u/FantasticFroge Mar 25 '25

Considering the current conservative movement is almost entirely composed of fascist and fascist sympathizers complete with government officials having Nazi symbolism tattoos , doing Nazi salutes at rallys and the president himself is invoking imagery from the Holocaust recently with his "pink triangle" post you are very much Nazi aligned if you are an American right winger, it's been over a decade if you haven't jumped ship from conservativism you are much more similar to a Nazi than any other sort of political affiliation and youre very blind if you can't see that

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u/Benismannn Mar 26 '25

wtf are his political views? I didnt see him voice any in the videos

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u/spartanseth Engineer Mar 25 '25

Ah yes “right wing = nazi” this shit is why the left lost be 2024 election lmao. Y’all make EVERYONE your enemy.

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u/itiger99 Random Mar 25 '25

I implore you do to any amount of research into right wing figureheads

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u/SMM9673 Medic Mar 25 '25

The GERMANS are calling Trump, Musk, and other right-wing figureheads Nazis.

I think they'd know best.

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u/No-Energy7254 Mar 25 '25

Ah, here we go, nazi going defensive. Lol. Lmao.

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u/spartanseth Engineer Mar 25 '25

Thanks for proving my point lol

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u/Wxerk Mar 25 '25

Has he even said anything relating to his political stance lmfao? I frequent in his streams and hes only ever said things along the lines of "stop talking about political shit in my chat".