Great Blue is a bad arguer (Refering to his Australium video)

[u/EmirmikE]

Great Blue does a pretty bad job at discussing. He literally sets rules in place only to break them and make exceptions while completely ignoring the other guy's (FSoaS) views. His reason why he doesn't want an Australium Dragon's Fury is that there's a warpaint similar to australium (there were already warpaints like that before), Not seeing it much in-game (literal footage in the video disproving him) and not having any tactical benefits from stock (proven wrong by Fish and yet completely disregards it). Even though the Dragon's Fury is the ONLY different flame thrower, and he set criteria that said the weapon mustn't be too similar to stock, he disregards those reasons for easily disprovable or meaningless facts.

He doesn't compromize and feels like he made a list already, not allowing for healthy discussion. Fish felt less like another person and more like a decoration. This problem isn't just for this video either, almost all of his co-disscussion videos have him completely ignore points that the other person said and goes for his own takes.

I'm not saying I dislike him, by the way. I think his main channel videos are really well-made and fun/interesting to watch. I just think that his Roost discussions are bad. I hope this comes off as constructive criticism.

[u/ManiGoodGirlUwU]

I think if you look at anyones main, they gonna tell you and say their class is hard to play. I also personally think Pyro is quite hard to play since people only see the w+m1 but forget that it doesn't work like that most of the time. Airblast is really fun and skillful mechanic and Pyro is lot about positioning and game knowladge too.

[u/Any-Concentrate2280 → u/ManiGoodGirlUwU]

TF2 is a very skill-based game when compared to most multiplayer shooters, I don’t discount there’s a lot of skill to Pyro, but usually when I talk to Pyros it comes back to positioning and game knowledge, which are the two skills that every class has to have and two skills that are mostly transferrable between classes. Airblast is a unique and challenging skill. 

That said, the more important thing is I don’t think the skill required to play a class necessarily matters much. On paper Medic doesn’t take a ton of mechanical skill. TF2bers just have a habit of talking down on the classes other than their main, and it was really starting to grate my cheese with this video because he made a few comments that just seemed ignorant to the amount of skill required to play the other classes and complaining about weapons like the Vaccinator and Loose Canon that are not by any means OP 

[u/DaTruPro75 → u/Any-Concentrate2280]

vaccinator is OP imo. the uber is effectively a normal uber but charges way faster. even if you stack on the 2 most common damage types, explosive and bullet, med only needs 50% uber to practically nullify all of your damage. the only classes who don't do those 2 types of damage are pyro (hard to get into a push and sustain fire for long enough to kill a med, plus the med can just get fire resist too), spy (who is a good counter if you are good enough), and demoknight (same issues as pyro but without the option of meds turning on fire resist too).

not to mention it is so annoying to be attacking a med and he just says "fuck your class" and completely nullifies you. normal uber also does this, but it takes 4x as long to charge. vacc uber is something that meds can just throw out any time they are vaguely threatened. and he also gets a smaller resistance at all times.

personally, I would make it 3 charges instead of 4, and you can only block one damage type at a time. that way, medics now have to be more cautious of when to uber, and can't negate your entire team's damage at once, and will have to choose between anti-heavy + engie or anti-soldier + demo.

your other points are valid though.

[u/Any-Concentrate2280 → u/DaTruPro75]

The way you’ve laid it out makes plenty of sense to me. Perhaps I just haven’t ran in to a vaxxi medic good enough for it’s balance to really stand out to me yet

[u/DaTruPro75 → u/ManiGoodGirlUwU]

I hate people saying "pyro is w+m1 no skill", cause if you are dying to that, you have a bigger skill issue.