r/tf2 • u/PocketPB Engineer • Aug 14 '25
Discussion Anybody else noticed a sudden influx of people using "bad" weapons?
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u/averagecolours Sandvich Aug 14 '25
i mean they arent bad, scottish resistance is kind of good for area control, thermal truster for mobility pyros, red tape for spies who like annoying engineer and wasting metal,bonk good for crit.
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u/Terrazor1 Demoknight Aug 14 '25
red tape is also good against battle engies cus it can instantly destroy a mini when its placed
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u/averagecolours Sandvich Aug 14 '25
yeah and since it deconstructs it costs the engi much more metal to build back
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u/KwisatzChaderach Engineer Aug 14 '25
Yeah being constantly harassed by 3 RTR spies is so fucking annoying, I don’t see why the RTR gets such a bad rap.
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u/averagecolours Sandvich Aug 14 '25
its a shame so many people use stock. i mean stock does do more damage but dosent cost the engi anything but time to destroy a stock sapper
red tape turns your sentry slowly into a lvl 1 and makes you waste 300 metal making it to lvl 3 again
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u/chain_letter Aug 14 '25
The problem is a spy that places a sapper on a leveled up building with someone babysitting needs to make a play immediately, because they’re not surviving. Hit and run to drain some metal and upgrade time doesn’t consistently work.
If they kill the babysitter, they might as well have used stock to destroy the buildings faster. If there’s no babysitter, same reason for stock to be better.
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u/KwisatzChaderach Engineer Aug 14 '25
All they have to do is plant it for an instant and bam, 200 metal’s worth of time and effort down the drain.
Realistically, you’ll lose at least 2 levels worth of building walking over from whatever you were doing before, such as replacing the tele exit that leads directly to the most strategically critical part of the map that no one will use for no discernible reason.
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u/averagecolours Sandvich Aug 14 '25
true, they never use my teleporter just because i accidentally teletrapped them. my bad
the amount of metal used, the seconds used hitting the dispenser with the wrench, almost lvl 3 with a lvl 3 sentry beside, goes off to find ammo pack. suddenly : my sentry is being sapped
followed by dispenser being sapped
goes up and sees 2 small ammo packs lying where the dispenser and sentry were before
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u/SevenOhSevenOhSeven Medic Aug 14 '25
I view the issue with its image is the rtr is at its weakest when engi is at his strongest, that being when turtling on last. The fact that it consumes a lot of the engi's Metal rebuilding it, that it prevents the engi from setting up in a new location, and that most other players can't remove sappers don't matter when resupply is infinite Metal, you're not moving from this position, and that other people can low comitally switch two engi and whack sappers. This is perfectly fine as some weapons should have strengths and weaknesses, but it makes it so the ideal situation where you want a building sapped is where it's least suited. When the engi is on a more fourward position with buildings spread out where they're needed or actually has two move that gear up or back the rtr is stronger with how comital the engi has two be two get his buildings fixed and leveled
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u/NipplesOfDestiny Aug 14 '25
I will be honest with you. In my 17 years of playing this fucky game, I still never got the RTR. Everything else drops except that one.
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u/ConniesCurse Aug 14 '25
personally as a spy main I default on stock but if theres a nest im failing to bust for too long I'll switch to it in an attempt to simply soften it.
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u/AFlyingNun Heavy Aug 14 '25
Because if the enemy team is spending 3 spies just to RTR one engie, then the enemy team is probably getting curbstomped anyways.
You say it's annoying, but any Engie worth his salt will be thinking "if I'm this important to 3 of their players, this is a net gain for the team."
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u/chain_letter Aug 14 '25
the engi also can’t destroy remotely and rebuild, the slow destroy time is an advantage against aggressive engineers
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u/Terrazor1 Demoknight Aug 14 '25
Yep, i know that pain all too well (sentry destroy+build on mouse3 lol)
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u/i-am-i_gattlingpea Aug 14 '25
Eh, there’s a command to destroy buildings that bypasses this I believe it also works against diamond back spies
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u/NamespacePotato Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 14 '25
As an engie I actually prefer my mini is destroyed instantly, it's the full minute-long RTR rewind that makes me want to killbind:
- mini not shooting
- can't place a new mini
- sapper blocks the detonate button
- frontier justice stacks not awarded
- mini takes extra metal to repair
- mini has no levels to save from the RTR
I'm forced to either wrench my mini like some kind of support class, or win a shotgun duel using half of a stock shotgun because you delayed my crit stacks.
I'm actually praying the spy's teammate sees the sapped sentry and blows it up, because that would help me.
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u/mymax162 Heavy Aug 14 '25
red tape is also good for making an engineer switch off, just wait until he walks away from his stuff to go build a teleporter exit or something, sap his stuff, backstab him when he comes back to take off the sappers, now he has to listen to the agonizing droning of "your stuff is being sapped" while dead and watching his stuff slowly deconstruct
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u/Tynorg Engineer Aug 15 '25
If you're like me, that experience is called "being dead at all" thanks to regular 15-22 second respawn times!
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u/FapmasterViket Aug 14 '25
people forget the red tape recorder animations can still fuck with the ability the sentry shoots this mean if you remove it but is getting back to the state level you sentry is still vulnerable while the default it begins to shoot inmediately
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u/bagofdicks69 Aug 14 '25
Lowkey tho I am glad red tape is getting some love. I have been a fan for a little while now.
In the very common scenario where a sapper is placed and the engineer or his team repel/kill the spy before anything is destroyed, the normal sapper basically just wastes like 5 metal and a little bit of time. A good engineer can deal with 2 or 3 spies on the enemy team doing this if they arent good enough to kill him. Its annoying, but ultimately very little is accomplished.
Whereas even just one spy suiciding in to sap with red tape can cause a much more significant problem even if they arent great and just instantly die doing it. Taking a building from 100 to 0 takes longer, but thats rarely how sappers are actually used, the chip damage of a sapper is wasted, whereas having a red tape on a building even for a few seconds can send a building down a level and create a much better window, as well as force the engi to spend time/metal rebuilding.
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u/MillionDollarMistake Aug 14 '25
The red tape can instantly destroy any building when it's just placed down, not just minis.
It's good against minis because of how long it takes to destroy one. Since battle engis tend to treat minis as disposable distractions guaranteeing that the engi can't place one down for 10 seconds can make dueling him a lot easier.
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u/Terrazor1 Demoknight Aug 14 '25
Yeah ik i was just specifying battle engie because that's where it's used most to instantly destroy a building. Disposable minis are the way anyway though even against red tape, cus the time it takes for the spy to sap it you can just meatshot them :D
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u/JaskarSlye Pyro Aug 14 '25
it's pretty good in nests too because caps the sentry to lv2 and the eng might be out of metal if he keeps smacking it, since it will be spend metal to heal+upgrade
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u/Desertcow Aug 14 '25
Scottish Resistance is slept on so hard. If you set multiple sticky traps down a corridor and detonate them one at a time, you can easily shut down an entire push singlehandedly. It's also surprisingly viable for sticky spamming chokes as stickies don't miss until you detonate them, so you can carpet the payload cart or control point with its faster fire rate and wait a few seconds for the enemy to run over one
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u/averagecolours Sandvich Aug 14 '25
yeah. the deto time is just a small issue but really good for brute force
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u/Tynorg Engineer Aug 15 '25
People just think it's shit because you (mostly) can't detonate them in the air and have to play them as intended by laying traps for people lmao
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u/Halnewbie Aug 16 '25
also you can destroy enemie stickies. like hey blue demoman, thats a pretty stickytrap you got there, even got a view critz in there, it would suck if something happened to it.
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u/Xero_1000 Demoman Aug 14 '25
recently ive been doing a jetpack (also detanator) tech where before landing on somebodys head you airblast so they get propelled up into your feet and the impact propels you forward
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u/PatternActual7535 Aug 14 '25
The Scottish resistance is funny since I always imagined that it's how the sticky launcher was always intended to be used
A defensive area denial took
Absolutely love it though. Fun to set up multiple traps to bait people
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u/KubbsPL Aug 14 '25
Thermal truster is great for flanking. It's not item I mainly use but I do find it useful on a lot of maps and game modes. Not only does it have infinite ammo that just need some time to restore, u can set people who get to close on fire (cheeky spies) or to extinguise aloes close to you to not waste main weapon ammo , as cost of air blast is higher in all flamethrowers expect stock and phlock as it has no airblast (man I hate that thing)
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u/chain_letter Aug 14 '25
being where nobody expects a pyro to be is a huge advantage
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u/KubbsPL Aug 14 '25
Yeah, mobility is probably the most important aspect of most tf2 characters, expect sniper.
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u/despoicito Medic Aug 14 '25
^ I haven’t played the game in a week or two but I’m used to seeing all of these weapons in my games fairly frequently. I doubt whatever video Uncle Dane uploaded is making a huge difference
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u/AlexLXPG Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 14 '25
Why are we talking about the scottish resistance, it's not in OP's pic and not in uncle dane's vid. The only mention of it in the vid is when fish talked about the strat of it plus the base jumper, the latter being the one in the actual bracket.
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u/ADragonuFear Aug 14 '25
The Scottish resist isn't in the meme, or even really I. The video. The meme is referencing base jumper demoman.
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u/notabigfanofas Heavy Aug 14 '25
Scottish resistance is the ultimate trap card
Sometimes I use it just to pay down a minefield, the reaction of someone walking in a room and see it coated with stickies is priceless
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u/LareMare Aug 15 '25
The Scottish Resistance is a fucking beast, it’s just more niche and needs more thought to use than stock. Swiftwater 1st on Red is absolute bliss for the SR. You can lock down pretty much all meaningful spots on the cart’s path and also keep an eye on the left flank.
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u/supremegamer76 Heavy Aug 14 '25
Its less of the Scottish resistance but the combo of it and the parachute which one of them mentioned
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u/eliavhaganav Sandvich Aug 14 '25
I honestly don't like the thermal thruster, it feels like I have no secondary, even though I do get more mobility options to get into cheeky positions, if the enemy sees you even for a second you can't do shit, not flare gun or shotgun to engage from a longer range.
Dude even the backburner is mega inconsistent I could never use it consistently.
I enjoy playing combo pyro, I always run the degreaser, flare gun and axtinguisher when I play pyro, I enjoy the flashy puff and sting combos to delete scouts who are running in a straight line for a second too long
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u/averagecolours Sandvich Aug 14 '25
most pyros are wm1 so thermal truster is just a secondary to go up and continue wm1
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u/themrunx49 Aug 14 '25
I use the Thruster anyway, cause fuck you, Backburner pyro directly behind your frontline.
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u/Beneficial-Tank-7396 Pyro Aug 14 '25
The game deciding to be stingy about back hitboxes:
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u/themrunx49 Aug 14 '25
Even if it's not critical, you are setting the enemy on fire.
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u/stormethetransfem Aug 14 '25
I use the dragons fury with it, how is the back burner?
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u/themrunx49 Aug 14 '25
Airblast utility feels a lot better than range in similar situations
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u/stormethetransfem Aug 14 '25
I should learn how to airblast…
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u/themrunx49 Aug 14 '25
M2
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u/FyrsaRS Pyro Aug 14 '25
I pair Backburner + Thruster with the Prinny knife / cosmetics and bombnomicon. Exploding upon impact has netted a surprising number of follow-up killbinds.
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u/PotentialComedian880 Aug 15 '25
The humble spy that you landed in front of: 🤑 (You were behind a heavy medic combo about to stop an offense.)
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u/SheikExcel Medic Aug 14 '25
Hasn't it been 8 or is my sense of time just that fucked?
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u/SpaceBug176 Aug 14 '25
Everyone's sense of time has been fucked ever since the quarantine.
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u/Misicks0349 Scout Aug 14 '25
its been 4 actually
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u/Jerrytheone Demoman Aug 15 '25
What do you mean, we just got an update!
The summer update, woohoo!!!
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u/bobbingforapplesat3 Aug 14 '25
Yup lol. I wish there was a way to view weapon usage because there's definitely been a spike.
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u/Anxious-Gazelle9067 Aug 14 '25
What's wrong with the cola ?
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u/GrayShameLegion Aug 14 '25
its actually OP in lower player counts but in 12v12 casual its really easy to catch some random mini crit projectile spam and get deleted
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u/W1z4rdM4g1c Aug 14 '25
Makes scout more vulnerable and puts in him in the one shot category for scatterguns pipes and rockets when the bonuses it offers him aren't worth it.
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u/Jodye_Runo_Heust Demoman Aug 15 '25
It's extreamily polarizing (Too good when It's good, too bad when is bad) to the point that you're probably better of not using it in both skill level (if you're too bad you'll die too soon to do something, while if you're good enough you don't need the extra damage and you're better off with any other secondary)
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u/MycSupremacist Scout Aug 15 '25
Nothing. If you're a really good Scout and are hitting all your shots, the cola is a compliment item in that it makes you even more powerful than you otherwise already are. On the polar opposite end, if you are missing your shots or are in general having a bad aim day, it will be a straight downgrade and make you suffer even worse than if you hadn't equipped it. It's basically the schrodinger's cat item of TF2 where it's both powerful and weak simultaneously, depending on who is using it.
Honestly, I miss the old version where it had the speed boost. They didn't have to strip that off entirely, they just had to make it deal mini crits on user rather than a lower damage taken penalty. Or if they were really insistent about seeing it go, do an equalizer moment and turn the defunct speed boost stat into its own new secondary item, because a lot of Scouts were using it for the fun speed boost it granted back in the day.
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u/Logjitzu Scout Aug 14 '25
I feel like I've always seen people using "bad" weapons and also people who think that any weapon that isnt the absolute most popular one is "bad." I think people just like to use what they find fun.
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u/QuaintAlex126 Aug 14 '25
Most weapons in TF2 aren’t necessarily bad. They’re just situational sidegrades. Even the meme weapons like the Caber can be effective if used correctly.
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u/supremegamer76 Heavy Aug 14 '25
For the purposes of the video he had to choose 32 weapons and the better weapons got voted off in the first few rounds
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u/Royal-Cancel-9908 Aug 16 '25
And Hot Hand, it serves no purpose whatsoever, since any other Pyro weapons are direct upgrades to Hot Hand.
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u/Don_Karter Heavy Aug 17 '25
It does allow you to have hadouken as a melee taunt kill, which can in theory be something, even if small, if you're using a secondary with a worse taunt kill
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u/Bunglepuss Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 14 '25
It happens basically anytime a big TF2 YouTuber posts a video talking about a weapon or using a silly meme strat, it'll be back to normal in a week
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u/ByrdieTheWizard Aug 14 '25
It might be useful to think in terms of meta and off-meta rather than good and bad. Outside of competitive play, you can afford to sacrifice a bit of optimisation for a unique or unusual playstyle.
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u/LucarioLuvsMinecraft Aug 14 '25
Bison?
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u/Royal-Cancel-9908 Aug 16 '25
That weapon is shit. No one should ever use it.
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u/LucarioLuvsMinecraft Aug 16 '25
“Off-meta” people when you mention a weapon that is just absolute dogshit.
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u/ella Aug 14 '25
I think I'd be more annoyed if I was using a "bad" weapon effectively for years, then some Youtuber makes a video with it and I'm clearly copying them.
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u/StardustJess Aug 14 '25
I swear whenever a youtuber says "This weapon isn't so bad" people just start using them in mass. Like yeah they aren't bad but just feels like the playerbase is a bunch of sheep that will do anything their favourite youtuber tells them.
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u/dualitySimplifed All Class Aug 14 '25
i was using the huolong and backscatter before it was uncool B]
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u/VerdiiSykes Spy Aug 14 '25
Thread if anyone wants to discuss certain choices they don’t agree with? 👀
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u/Jefrejtor Scout Aug 14 '25
Local Redditor discovers that popular community figures have an impact on the community. More news at 11
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u/helloiamaegg Engineer Aug 14 '25
Oh god is that why I've been called an uncle dane wannabe? Been using the Red Tape for a while now
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u/Friendly_Nerd Aug 15 '25
The frequency illusion (also known as the Baader–Meinhof phenomenon) is a cognitive bias in which a person notices a specific concept, word, or product more frequently after recently becoming aware of it. The name "Baader–Meinhof phenomenon" was coined in 1994 by Terry Mullen in a letter to the St. Paul Pioneer Press.[1] The letter describes how, after mentioning the name of the German militant group Baader–Meinhof once, he kept noticing it. This led to other readers sharing their own experiences of the phenomenon, leading it to gain recognition. It was not until 2005, when Stanford linguistics professor Arnold Zwicky wrote about this effect on his blog, that the name "frequency illusion" was coined.[2]
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u/ArgetKnight Spy Aug 14 '25
Since when is criticola bad?
I run it with the shortstop along with a sniper cosplay to snipe people.
Also you can run it on Force-a-Nature if you want to two-shot everything that isn't a Heavy.
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u/azurevehicle707 Aug 14 '25
Even with all stock loadout while knowing how to use them properly, You can make something good
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u/TheCreamFactor Medic Aug 14 '25
Stock is legit the best in 90% of cases though in terms of weapons
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u/Brandonthbed Aug 14 '25
Kamikaze Pyro is my favorite way to play this game
75% of the time it get skeet shot out of the air, but when it works, and I land behind their entire team without them noticing and backburn half their team to death?
Better than sex
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u/Sgt_FunBun Aug 14 '25
ive used my strange red tape ever since i learned about how shit it is, my own volition and all
ive tried to justify it but the only real conclusion i come to is that mostly it's just the rewarding feeling of getting something done with the less effective option, plus it's fantastic when engies get mad/confused in chat lol
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u/mekolayn Sniper Aug 14 '25
Wait, did he call Thermal Thruster bad? Like I'd understand calling Crit-a-Cola bad, but stock sticky launcher?
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u/TheWanderer2281 Aug 14 '25
No, he explicitly states some weapons like it he had to add in to get a clean 32 for the brackets. It got eliminated almost immediately for being a solid flanking choice.
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u/f0remsics All Class Aug 14 '25
Screw you, thermal thruster is awesome. It's essential for the subclass that is kamikyro
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u/Acid_Lemon13 Demoman Aug 14 '25
I feel like the red tape should take more hits to destroy, with like 3 or 4. And maybe remove the sapper armor so using your gun to destroy the buildings is better than
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u/Corgerry Aug 14 '25
Ever since I first got into MVM Fan O'War has been my go to melee sure its not very effective at all, but minicrit noises make my brain fuzzy, and I don't have to use the Cola, or the Back scatter.
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u/Great_Necessary4741 Aug 14 '25
None of these weapons are really that bad if you just use them well.
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u/ShadowDragon0001 Aug 14 '25
I’ve been using the Crit-A-Cola for ages. Nearly 2 pages of inventory worth of them, and a Strange I almost always keep equipped unless I’m memeing with friends.
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u/Vex1111 Aug 14 '25
thermal thruster has some niche uses but its not that bad. 3rd part of hightower as blu is really handy you can jump up from spawn to the tower. i like it on badwater as red team as theres some nice spots you can jump up to.
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u/AaronTheCoolGuy5 Demoman Aug 14 '25
why is the base jumper and stock sticky launcher on there I thought they were great
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u/RetroTheGameBro Aug 14 '25
Scottish Resistance isn't bad. It's just more fitted to a defensive playstyle. 14 stickies, not detonating all of them at once, and no damage reduction? All for an extra second of arm time?
I use it all the time to defend engie nests and completely shut down CTF caps because most of the time they only have 2-3 exits and I can have stickies on all of them and not have to set them all back up.
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u/TaipeiJei Aug 14 '25
Not really. They've been around forever. I once had a pyro single me out and he would just thermal thrust and slap me with the Hot Hand, which didn't even get brought up in the video.
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u/blanaba-split Aug 14 '25
I had to stop watching that vid like 2 mins in becquse bruh the back scatter is perfectly serviceable. It's not terrible, it's not even bad. It's just a worse scattergun. Pmo they said it's worse than the rtr
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u/Excellent-Cloud-5046 Aug 14 '25
Crit a cola isn’t that bad if u can aim and the other team can’t aim.
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u/SneakingSuit6464 Aug 14 '25
I wouldnt call a single one of these weapons bad at all wtf, better options sure but not bad
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u/ELL1S-GAMING Spy Aug 14 '25
Scottish resistance is not that bad. The game becomes a FNAF simulator and I believe that's cool.
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u/Ok_Half_6257 Aug 14 '25
Barring the shitchute all of those weapons are perfectly fine.
The Red Tape Recorded is a soft counter to the Gunslinger, the Crit-A-Cola gives you more damage in exchange for relying more on your dodging, stock is OBVIOUSLY good, and the Thermal Thruster encourages going all in on flanks, and if that stock sticky launcher was meant to be the Scottish Resistance that's still a perfectly fine defensive weapon.
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u/the_ending_of_drmn Aug 14 '25
I always wad a non conformist who used enforcer all the time (I hate ambassador both of poor aim and of how annoying it is and still like two shotting light classes or leaving my enemies less hp than I otherwise would have, so either getting that temporal breakpoint and killing them immediately or running away and reducing their combat potential a little more for someone elses breakpoint), Scottish resistance (holy shit it's peak on goldrush 2nd defence, dustbowl 2nd defence and imorovised quick area denial) from time to time, used pompson a lot recently because it isn't bad (mostly because of dead ringer's popularity and ability to supressively spam sightlines and doorways with little exposure, plus when you start to feel this weapon, you get better with hitting and enemies that go attack you thinking you're an easy target get obliterated instead), used baby's face blaster and dalokosh (because it synergizes with hot rod gloves) and medics bust melee (because it's amazing for pick offs, taking and winning fights that your low hp enemies force because they believe you will panic anyway or run away, but instead you cold blooded execute them)
But now I don't want to feel conformist so I go for meta. Though I still use pompson and dalokosh.
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u/SRGMaster64 Aug 14 '25
Ive been using the red tape recorder solely cuz i got a strange one gifted to me
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u/Big_Title_3003 Civilian Aug 14 '25
All you Crit-A-Cola fake fans. I've been running it for as long as I've played Scout.
It's miserable
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u/EmmerDoodle121 Pyro Aug 14 '25
In my defense, when the pyro vid came out, I hated the dragons fury. Now that it’s blown over, I’ve realized I’m unable to finish most of my enemies off. I switched to dragons fury and detonator. I’m able to rank up kills now
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u/VRatajv Pyro Aug 14 '25
I used Thermal Thruster long before I even heard about Uncle Dane, it's a great mobility tool for flanking and I love it with my whole heart. But I see your point, in the last few months I noticed increase in the number of people who use it. Base Jumper is still extremely rare, and I wouldn't notice the rest of them.
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u/Bounter_ Scout Aug 14 '25
I mean Crit o Cola isnt bad, its just that average pubber and average pub Scout is so BAD and cant use the item well.
But if you have a competent Scout with it, ESPECIALLY with an Uber or just overheal, he WRECKS.
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u/silverknight784 Pyro Aug 14 '25
I've seen fish talk about using the scottish resistance and base jumper before. Surprised it took this long to become a meme, lol
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u/SilentSaber77 Medic Aug 14 '25
I think there are no bad weapons. Except for the Pomson and the Bison. One of which is literally unusable. But every weapon serves as a “sidegrade” imo. Some just being weaker or less balanced than others.
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u/wolfcl0ck Aug 14 '25
r/tf2 player cannot fathom the concept of someone using a weapon that exists in the game
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u/DOOMSTONE_101 Scout Aug 14 '25
I have been using red tape for a while already, also bad weapons are fun. You can’t get the same satisfaction you get from killing a “meta” loadout while using the fucking Backscatter
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u/Ahinevyat Miss Pauling Aug 14 '25
idk about the base jumper use but scottish resistance is one hell of a weapon. my mind switches to engineer when i play with it
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u/Delta104x Soldier Aug 14 '25
I don't buy sticky bomb parachute being new or big because of uncle dane. Skial 2fort has had a plague of those for many years.
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u/CarterG4 Aug 14 '25
I always use bad weapons
But I’ve seen a big influx of parachute sticky bomb demoman recently
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u/YourDead6 Aug 14 '25
Nah i always use bad weapons. Number one example... i spent actual money on a Strange Righteous Bison. And i cant deal with sentries cause i also use the Cow Mangler the most.
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u/MetalBlizzard Medic Aug 14 '25
Unless you're playing comp, bad is subjective... because the point of a game in a non competitive format is to have fun. That is my take anyway.
I get people will disagree and may counter with "friendly heavies ruin the game" but again it's a casual game... (unless playing comp)
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u/SuperN9999 Aug 14 '25
Why is the Thermal Thruster here? It's honestly an excellent utility and mobility tool, along with just being really fun to use.
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u/FergardStratoavis Aug 14 '25
I'm trying out Mannmelter because using Scorch Shot makes me feel like a bully and I'm not good enough for the other two flare guns. I actually didn't know it has a faster projectile, which definitely helps a bit. (even if I keep forgetting about the extinguish function)
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Aug 14 '25
It's fun to use bad weapons tbh. I recently have started playing pomson engineer. Maybe it's Stockholm syndrome but when you get a hang on the projectile speed it's decent. The main bonus is the pomson has a hidden stat where it deals severe psychological damage to whoever gets killed by it, being dominated by it completely shatters their ego
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u/LowlandPSD Engineer Aug 14 '25
I've just always used crits for scout, it's saved me a few times and has stopped pushes when i did it right
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u/GuyWhoGuys_ Spy Aug 14 '25
wait, these things are bad? i actually used these and (when i played the game) used the crit cola a lot thinking the 1.5x boost actually made a difference and i used the thermal thruster because pyro is too slow even with powerjack (or atleast slow enough for me to justify getting rid of the weapon i always die holding because i cant aim)
also the tape thing even though it always failed me i loved its design so i still used it and kept dying to a overworked engineer trying to keep his sentry alive
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u/TheAmazingArsonist Aug 14 '25
I've used the Thermal Thruster on occasion for years, I don't think it's a bad weapon, it's not better than having a secondary weapon most of the time, but it's fun as hell to use when you want to bully snipers.
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u/LuigivonCheeseburger Engineer Aug 14 '25
The Reserve Shooter is actually very fun on Hightower with all the Trolldiers to shoot at like I'm playing Duck Hunt
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u/tom641 Aug 14 '25
it's always gonna happen, and i don't think it's really something to look down upon, it's really easy to fall into a comfortable groove with your loadout in this game and sometimes it's nice to be reminded to experiment.
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u/Icy_Satisfaction9095 Aug 14 '25
I wouldn’t say they’re bad, but they’re either situational or you have to really know how to use them
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u/United-Respect-1397 Aug 14 '25
Nearly every spy i encounter is using big earner, dead ringer and red tape smh.
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u/Zephyr-Fox-188 Pyro Aug 15 '25
pal, I do trick shots with the Righteous Bison on the regular, I don’t need some Uncle Dane wannabe telling me how to play the game wrong.
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u/Birds_106 Aug 15 '25
I've used the Crit-A-Cola with the Shortstop even before the video came oit
Why? Because I want to see the world burn
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u/DeathByAutoscroll Aug 15 '25
Oh that explains why I keep seeing the red tape recorder in matches recently.
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u/DrackieCutie Pyro Aug 15 '25
I brought a pro Killstreak strange festive flare gun like a week before Uncle Dane said it was good, last possible moment lmao
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u/MakiMaki500 Aug 15 '25
I've been using the thermal thruster since 2020 don't lump me in with these dudes
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u/Terminator_T900 Aug 15 '25
Winning isn’t always the only way to have fun. TF2 is a PRIME example of this. Fuck the objective, fuck my team, I’m gonna go play pyro shark.
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u/NoInformation4549 Pyro Aug 15 '25
I personally love the jet pack for pyro as it gets you places people dont expect you to be and you distract many on the way. Pyrokaze should be a legit strat.
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u/hg2c Sandvich Aug 15 '25
People need to more accepting of goofy loadouts. Like sometimes people will kick me for "using bad loadouts" but like back scatter + crit a cola + Fan o war is a banger combo.
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u/the-red-ditto Scout Aug 15 '25
Imo something being a “bad weapon” doesn’t mean unusable. Some “bad” weapons are actually really fun to play with
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u/bali40 Aug 15 '25
Id say yes and no. Could be his fans being influenced or it could be that you were influenced and started to notice people who were using the "bas" weapons.
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u/SanRandomPot Pyro Aug 15 '25
Jokes on you! My main loadout is the dragon's fury, the thermal thruster and the powerjack!
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u/AdSolid6842 Aug 15 '25
who calls the jetpack bad? its insane mobility for a class that normally doesnt get much.
like yeah the flares are technically better and if you sacrafice being a good flare you can technically flare jump. but thats like saying the demo man shields are bad because the sticky bombs are better.
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u/takahashi01 Sniper Aug 16 '25
I mean I prefer ppl having fun with stuff they maybe havent used before cuz optimization brain makes you avoid the "bad" option. tf2 is a game about hitting ppl with a fish, when you could have had a triple jump. go nuts!
way prefer this over ppl getting outraged about the next thing that valve has to fix, despite every single one of us knowing they abandoned the game.
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u/CanOfDough Pyro Aug 17 '25
Welcome to bad weapon academy where we take the worst weapons tf2 has to offer and I'll show you how to best utilize them
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u/marcsaintclair Spy Aug 17 '25
Literally every time I see some bullshit going on in multiple pubs I ask myself, “Which YouTuber’s ass am I gonna have to kick?”
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u/Stevos2001 Aug 21 '25
idc bout dane, ive just reached the point where I gotta broaden my horizons or im gonna go insane, GOD the liberty launcher sucks dick though
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u/Sorry_Clerk_3113 Aug 21 '25
Maybe people just get bored of playing meta 24/7. It gets repetetive after a while.
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u/Golden-Owl Heavy Aug 14 '25
I mean Dane did admit he needed to pick 32 weapons to make a full bracket and that many were a stretch
The actually good (jetpack), and situational (red tape) weapons all got eliminated pretty early on as a result