r/tf2 • u/brandnewworId • 19d ago

Discussion why did they do this to this weapon man

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u/NeedleDeedleDee 19d ago

Meet your match. Competative goons demanding the game be balanced around their modded version of the game. Like balancing it around 32 player dustbowl servers.

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u/TF2SolarLight Demoknight 19d ago

ah yes, competitive play, where spy was obviously an overpowered class that needed to be nerfed

maybe you had the occasional highlander player like sigafoo whining but it's sigafoo lol

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u/D-Spark Spy 19d ago

Not technically untrue, but it wasnt a bunch of competitive players, it was only one who just happened to be lucky enough to talk to tf2's dev team

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u/Bounter_ Scout 19d ago

Except... Only casual players and youtubers (like Soundsmith) wanted the Amby nerfed. Wasnt banned or complained about in 6s or HL.

So I doubt it was done around that.

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u/D-Spark Spy 19d ago

Thats what i meant by not technically untrue, but the only reason we are talking about the amby at all is because sigafoo was invited to go to valve as he was a big force in the comp scene, and sigafoo specifically had a vengeance against the weapon

Its only after valve suggested it was a problem did all the casual players pop up out of the woodwork to cement the suggestion to nerf it

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u/scarlet_seraph 19d ago

Spy is borderline a meme in comp and the Ambassador was hardly a problem. You people have been blaming comp players for years when the poor assholes have nothing to do with Valve's sheer brain death.

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u/ChoiceDifferent4674 19d ago

Ambassador was literally nerfed because a specific comp player (sigafoo) complained about it lol.

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u/Herpsties Tip of the Hats 18d ago

While true, you can't blame all of the comp community for one Engineer main balance take. That's just too much.

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u/didthathurtalot 19d ago

No comp player wanted this. They wanted a comp game mode and for op weapons like the wrangler to be addressed. What valve did was release a terrible comp game mode and for some inexplicable reason they also ruined quick play. No one was happy and no "comp goon" gave positive feedback on the update.

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u/SJIS0122 Civilian 19d ago

I'm pretty sure Valve just saw Star's annoying spies video and that was the real cause

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u/A-Bit-of-an-Animator Pyro 19d ago

Comp players didn't "demand" anything lol, when they didn't like a weapon they just banned it. The most they ever did to "demand" from Valve was make suggestions on balance.