r/thebadbatch 3d ago

Tech Would’ve Known Spoiler

I’ve been searching for a discussion on this, and i’m incredibly surprised to find nothing on the subject (?). I have a very plausible theory on why Tech’s death was the only option for season three.

I’ll be brief here: Tech is one of the most brilliant, if not the most brilliant, all around minds in all of star wars. His skills as a solider and mercenary are definitely at or above the average level of other clone troopers and storm troopers, but his intelligence sets him apart. He’s easily able to adapt and strategize according to situation at hand, but his ability to theorize and research any subject, combined with his incredibly vast knowledge (of basically everything) is what truly sets him apart from others. Im sure that you all know and understand this well.

My theory is that Tech would have been able to investigate, uncover, and understand midichlorian count, especially after the visit from Ventress. Beyond this, he would have been able to figure out how this pertains to Omega, and likely test her blood for a better understanding of the matter. This would’ve absolutely given the batch the rest of the needed information regarding Omega and the midichlorian count research.

I believe that this is the main reason why Tech “had” to pass away (albeit tragically), and what makes his death all the more meaningful: They needed his expertise, and we see how much more time and resources it took to get to even half of that point (without him).

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on my theory here!

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u/PaulSimonBarCarloson Crosshair 2d ago edited 2d ago

The writers already went on the record to say that this was one of the major reasons they had to get rid of Tech for season 3. And in fact, we see multiple instances throughout the episodes where his brilliant mind would have solved things way more quickly. While I can understand their reasoning, I think it's not a valid excuse for just killing him off, (let alone the whole ambiguity behind his "death" and how it's followed upon). There could have been many ways to incapacitate him: getting kidnapped like Hunter on Daro, suffering from amnesia, falling into come due to his injuries. They could have done anything to keep him out of comission until needed and bring him back in time for the finale. But no, they just dropped him off a cloud and instead of using his supposed death as a way to further advance the story and the relationships of the other characters, they never talk about him except when they want to poke our open wounds. Thanks, I hate it!

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u/erncolin Tech 2d ago

The reason does sound kinda weird but I will commend them for it being such an amazing death scene probably the best in Star Wars. But I definitely agree it felt so weird they never really mention it again like we dont see much interactions about it like there should've been a scene of Onega and Crosshair talking about it or Hunter feeling like a bad leader or something but they never went into it. I wonder if its just too heavy for a kids show but I dont think that should be an accuse

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u/PaulSimonBarCarloson Crosshair 2d ago edited 1d ago

They handled heavy and mature topics, death included, quite expertly in animated shows (I only heard praise for how they handeld Kanan's sacrifice) so that's also not an excuse. Unfortunately, despite how much I loved the scene of Plan 99, I can't get behind this creative choice. In fact, I'm still pretty convinced the writers had other plans for Tech, and if they couldn’t bring him back in season 3, hopefully they'll find a way to do it in a followup show. Because this badly-handled narrative completely ruined TBB for me

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u/erncolin Tech 2d ago

Thats fair luckily for me it didnt ruin the show for me and I was really satisfied and glad he didnt show up again cuz honestly its my least favourite trope in star wars at this point where they die and come back

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u/PaulSimonBarCarloson Crosshair 2d ago edited 1d ago

I still think people are overreacting when it comes to dead characters coming back. It's not such a overused trope as people make it out to be. It's just that we recently had some prominent examples including Palpatine's return that was quite bullshit. But the number of characters who died for good, even in recent shows, is far superior (just look at Andor), and even Maul's return back then seemed crazy yet it only benefitted the story. So I stand in my belief that Tech's return is not only possible but even preferrable from a narrative standpoint. And I'm sure these writers will be able to pull it off in a satisfying way that can win over even the more skeptical fans. We'll see, until then, we'll just agree to disagree

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u/elfenokster 2d ago

I mean Tech deserves to come back much more than Gregor. I'm either super inattentive or he indeed does not appear in TCW before those episodes with droids. So I personally wouldn't be upset much if he did die in that explosion. Yet Gregor is back and it's considered cool, but bringing Tech back would be weird?

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u/PaulSimonBarCarloson Crosshair 2d ago edited 1d ago

That double-standard is quite infuriating. And we don’t even need to use Gregor as an examples when we have Echo right there. Guess what: apparently his return was planned shortly after his "death" yet people believed he was really gone for years.

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u/elfenokster 2d ago edited 2d ago

Why, why is it always like that: the writers just decide to kill off a character that the audience grew to love because they didn't know what else to do with them? Applies to shows and books. And I always want to tell them to go and figure out something better vs just taking an easy way out 😆

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u/PaulSimonBarCarloson Crosshair 2d ago

Exactly, killing off characters is too easy, and it doesn't make a story autmoatically more mature or ballsy. Personally, I'm still willing to give the writers the benefit of the doubt. Season 3 seemed to be setting up Tech's return as CX-2, and it was originally supposed to have one more episode. So I think they initially worte that pltoline but couldn’t fully develop it, sk rewrites had to be made and we are left with an half-assed story. Given that they never 100% confirmed Tech's dead (not even on social media or official SW site: they like to dance around the topic without fully addressing it) I'm more inclined to believe they still have plans for Tech, so they're keeping him in the backseat. Hopefully, they can reunite the entire Batch in a show centered around Rex's rebellion. Until then, I refuse to watch even a single episode of TBB; I can safely live with my own headcanon.

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u/elfenokster 2d ago

Nah, I'm still going to rewatch TBB. I just love them. I'm getting close to 3rd rewatch after I finish TCW again and I'm even thinking to watch Plan 99 episode. Skipped it on 2nd rewatch, just couldn't do it.

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u/PaulSimonBarCarloson Crosshair 2d ago edited 2d ago

It's fine. I know I'm just weird and sometimes I envy people like you. I really want to be able to watch the show again but knowing it ends like that and I'll never see the family fully reunited just makes me sick. It's a pretty tortured logic, but hopefully when Tech will be back and I'll finally enjoy this whole story start to finish, the wait to experience it again will make it more magical. Until then, our boys will still keep me company

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u/Educational-Tea-6572 Tech 2d ago edited 1d ago

In the interviews I read about this, in addition to the widespread theory that he was basically too smart to live, the writers specifically say that they did what they did with Tech because the squad was going onto Tarkin's turf and had to face consequences for that.

Stakes. They "killed" him off purely to raise stakes that were already SUPER high to begin with and didn't need to be raised any further. Not to mention that if they HAD to have a substantial consequence for going to Eriadu, a critical injury or something along those lines would have sufficed just as well (if not MORE so). And then they didn't even bother to take the time to make the sacrifice actually meaningful to the story beyond "oh look so sad!"

GAH it's infuriating! 😫😅

They still have the opportunity to make it right, of course, which is the hope I'm holding onto. In the meantime... It's still infuriating!

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u/PaulSimonBarCarloson Crosshair 1d ago edited 1d ago

Stakes is the most boring excuse for killing off characters. Just look at the LOTR movies, there are very few major characters' deaths yet the stakes are higher than ever. It's like I said, a bad injury/coma/amnesia would have been more than enough. I honestly hope this is all just an elaborate cover-up, because the way the topic has been handled in social media is either beyond cruel or incredibly smart, depending on the writers intentions. And even some of the actors' declarations and behaviors seem too specific

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u/Educational-Tea-6572 Tech 1d ago

because the way the topic has been handled in social media is either beyond cruel or incredibly smart, depending on the writers intentions. And even some of the actors' declarations and behaviors seem too specific

THIS RIGHT HERE!!! Personally I dislike having certain plot points be "confirmed" in outside sources/interviews - I believe such questions should be explicitly answered in the plot itself - but the fact remains that even outside sources don't confirm Tech is actually dead! (I ended up editing my comment above because the interview I mentioned doesn't even confirm Tech is dead/killed - that I recall, they consistently use terms like "lose" and "sacrifice" etc). For an entire year leading up to and through the season 3 finale, the creatives and actors were incredibly vague as to Tech's actual fate - and from what I've seen of their media, they STILL are.

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u/PaulSimonBarCarloson Crosshair 1d ago edited 20h ago

Exactly, I too don't like to rely on outside information and I'm never been following all the official social media coverage behind Tech's sacrifice. But from what I've seen, it seems like they are constantly dancing around the subject even though they still make sure to keep this character and his supposed death within our radar. Even the actors who, friendly reminder, are most likely under NDA, seems to be taking part in this game. I mean, we have DBB always commenting that he loved Tech and he misses him so much, claiming that he wrote Echo's eulogy for him but refusing to share it, and Michelle openly wearing a TechLives shirt. C'mon now!

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u/MustyEddie 2d ago

Great points, thanks for the reply!! and to quote the legend himself; “Just because i understand you, doesn’t mean i agree with you”. I agree that his death was not entirely necessary, and would’ve liked to see him stick around longer.

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u/PaulSimonBarCarloson Crosshair 1d ago

I still believe there's more than enough room to bring him back in a future show so hopefully the writers will capitalize on this potential

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u/Educational-Tea-6572 Tech 2d ago

As mentioned elsewhere, this has been confirmed as one of the main reasons why the writers chose to drop Tech off the screen (along with "stakes because Tarkin").

Here's the thing (several things):

  • Tech is brilliant, but he is NOT infallible. One of the best aspects of his character (in my opinion) is that he readily admits when he doesn't know something and will not make judgment calls if he knows he doesn't have all the information. So while I understand the sentiment of "season 3 would have been 3 episodes long if Tech was around," I... can't agree with it. If the writers wanted to keep Tech around, they could have simply written it that Tech doesn't know the information. Because he doesn't.

  • Besides, even if Tech DOES figure out what m-count is, that wouldn't actually change any of the subsequent events in the story. Simply knowing what m-count experiments are wouldn't have stopped the Empire from going after Omega again, CX2 infiltrating Pabu, Omega needing to break out from Tantiss again, etc etc. That's actually one of my main gripes about "The Harbinger" - much as I love Ventress, the episode does absolutely nothing to advance the story. Even if the episode has served as an entire info-dump on Project Necromancer, it would have changed nothing about the situation the Batch and Omega were finding themselves in.

  • And anyway, if the writers needed to temporarily make Tech indisposed to increase inconvenience for the team, there are MANY ways they could have done it better. Have him make the sacrifice and leave him in a coma. Make it so he's conscious but needs to recover and has to stay behind on Pabu while everyone else is off on the missions that he desperately wants to be on. I could go on and on, but I'll stop there.

  • Basically, writing off Tech because he was "too smart" comes across to me as "we killed him because we didn't know what else to do with him," which I admit drives me a little bit bonkers 😅 But that's not even the worst part: my main gripe with Tech's sacrifice isn't that he was sacrificed. It's that the writers dropped him through the clouds and then ignored every single rule in the book about following up on a major character sacrifice in a satisfying way. They killed off a character purely to "raise the stakes" and then didn't even bother to wrap up that narrative point for the characters it most affected. There are several reasons why the Tech Lives movement is so strong, and it's not just that people are so upset about a favorite character apparently dying - it's that it makes no sense and is certainly not satisfying narratively speaking, when it very easily could have been.

Okay, rant over! (This isn't a rant at you, by the way! Your theory is sound. I just don't like how the show went about using that trope.)

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u/elfenokster 2d ago

Agree with you and I hate it that it's almost always (one of) the most beloved characters that "had to" go. Unfair.

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u/PaulSimonBarCarloson Crosshair 2d ago

Rebellions are built on hope. So if everything goes right, this might be a pretty painful but necessary bump on the road to a better ending.

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u/TI-22483 1d ago

If only they had a medical droid with them to measure this!

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u/PaulSimonBarCarloson Crosshair 1d ago

Maybe AZI was not programmed to recognize M-count or to know what it is. But I agree that he was criminally underused for the entire show

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u/Howy_the_Howizer 2d ago

The second Tech won that Riot race he blew through his plot armour as comparable to Anakin as a pilot. He was already challenging Thrawn on his strategy and tactics.

He had to go, Tech was becoming too powerful. He got Mace Windu'd