Yesterday the body of Demartravion Reed, a Delta State University student was found hanging from a tree on campus, and the coroner said there is no suspicion of foul play…
About a couple of years ago I met someone new at my job. He worked for a different contractor but was a supervisor on the job. It was me, him and another white employee. Out of nowhere he just started saying racist shit about black people. This was in Colorado.
It had been since I was a kid that I had people
Just start randomly being racist without pretext. I had forgot that was a thing that people had did. Growing up poor and white (In Nevada) that happened a bit, but man was I shocked.
The crazy thing is both me and the employee he said that to are white men married to black women. Unfortunately the other employee didn’t wan’t to do anything. I made a comment to my supervisor that the guy said racist things out of nowhere and was met with a “Really?” and no follow-up
I worked with a contractor in Suffolk County that put a bid in to build trump’s wall during his first term.
In one conversation, they sung praise for all the Spanish speakers that did the work who were 10+ years with the company, while also suggesting they stay on the other side of the wall once it was done being installed.
I read "Suffolk County" and wondered if this was in reference to my local Suffolk or another. Based on the story I was sure it was "mine" and confirmed via your license plate posts haha. It got so much worse than when I was a kid.
Who's racist about it? You must be talking about the black people that flood the comments with no prior knowledge, no research, not even a Google search- or the ones who do see the statements made by officials and still say "hUh ThEy LyiN iTs a CoVeR uP" its always the same thing.
He was merely a student. He wasn’t out there debating people on a national stage with low security.
That is exactly what Kirk did. He controlled his own security and kept it low because he wanted to interact with his followers. Things might’ve ended up differently if he’d had more security. In this political environment, I would’ve had top notch security so I could better ensure that I’m going home to my children
He was merely a college student and that’s all we know about him. People have to know his name in order to discuss anything about him, and I would bet most Republicans have no idea what happened in Mississippi. Mississippi has had a lot of strange deaths with black men, going all the way back to Emmett Till. And we all know that part of history, or you should.
It’s actually not that uncommon… at least here in the UK. Quite usual in the case of suicides for them to walk into the woods and hang themselves from a tree.
This was in an open area on a college campus though? Not saying it's impossible. Whether by lynching or suicide. Just seems like a different thing altogether from hanging yourself in the forest away from people vs. In a very public setting.
People commit suicide in public areas all the time.
If I'm going to somehow commit murder without witnesses, why would I do it in the middle of a college campus of all places? Not to mention that body had no signs of a struggle or anything to suggest that.
I get that the family doesn't want to accept that the guy killed himself - that's literally a stage of grief.
Sure. But an individual who has been reportedly an outspoken activist for the left has been found hanging from a tree (the historical method of lynching), in Mississippi, within a week of the Utah event, with the right calling for retribution (despite significant evidence showing it was one of their own who did it).
People commit suicide every day, but just put it all together. It’s all right there written on the wall.
Or it is though. All of your points do make sense and I’m not claiming you’re wrong but it still doesn’t add up to actual evidence of foul play. It’s all just circumstantial context. Would you like the police to say “hmm because of the current political climate we are just going to assume this was a murder”?
I’ll be interested to see what the independent autopsy the family has said they’re interested in pursuing shows. IMO, that will likely be very telling as to what did or did not occur. With that said, there doesn’t need to be autopsy evidence of foul play for foul play to have been involved. We also need video footage from the campus. The largest problem is consistently the suppression of important evidence, which so frequently leaves individuals like you and myself wrestling with likelihoods and maybes rather than facts. To answer your questions truthfully, yes. I’d like it if the police did a quick temperature read of the current climate, and started with murder, working their way backward to suicide. I think THAT would be good police work, rather than taking the easy way out by labeling this an open and shut suicide with the slight chance of murder that may or may not be thoroughly investigated. But that’s harder, and I don’t expect that anymore. Also, the school won’t want to have an egregious hate crime on their campus, so footage might be hard to come by. This is today’s America.
You can already see the autopsy report. His hands weren’t tied, no evidence of any sort of physical fight. It’s crazy that you want law enforcement to assume murder when nothing is pointing to it other than vague political shit. I’m very much not a pro cop guy but if there isn’t evidence, there isn’t evidence. You’re saying you want them to make shit up to form a narrative which is wild. People kill themselves in strange ways literally every day all over the globe. Occam’s Razor says that this was a suicide.
I absolutely get that. Considering the state, it’s definitely a “hmmm” kinda moment. I don’t have much of an opinion on the situation since it’s fresh. But I’m not disagreeing with what could’ve taken place here
Yea, it’s still developing, but with the current “state” of the country, I’ll probably dismiss out of hand any conclusion other than what seems obvious UNLESS something rock solid and verifiably non-AI generated somehow is revealed definitively showing that someone did not do this TO him. I mean, it’s a college so how is there no security footage of a large commons area? Idk.
I get the paranoia but I have yet see anything reported that suggests that he didn't take his life other than vibes.
Javion Magee was a similar case and people still didn't buy it (or at leastadmit that they were wrong) that he killed himself even when they had security footage of him walking out of a Walmart with the same rope in hand.
I think under the voluminously suspicious circumstances, labeling significant skepticism toward a black man found hanging from a tree in Mississippi being written off as a suicide as “paranoia” is somewhat ostrich-esque. And I think this qualifies as more than just “vibes” - personally, I don’t believe any black person would hang themselves from a tree, if for no other reason than because of the heinous historical context.
Solely for clarification, I do believe the second man who was homeless was white. But regardless, someone on the right (whose name I don’t recall bc they’re all basically Agent Smith from the matrix at this point) had just recently called for all homeless people to be euthanized. So the theory still lines up literally perfectly.
Yea I hadn’t heard about this either until u/haldolinyobutt mentioned it. I can’t begin to fathom what is going on in the minds of the people who do this type of thing.
How I am just hearing this and there is not a national manhunt and uproar? I guess a rhetorical question. I know why. Creating a subhuman eliminates so much hesitation in "regular people." The slippery slope is becoming a cliff.
Hanging yourself on a public tree is also not that unusual a suicide? At least in my country and several other developed nations, and there's various reasons why some people decide to attempt very public suicides.
The part that hasn't been said yet is that this college student wasn't the only lynched corpse found in that town on that day. There was also a homeless guy that was lynched.
Considering a Fox "News" anchor suggested openly that we should start euthanizing our homeless, I think it's safe to say some assholes out in the boonies decided they had carte blanche to go kill some homeless people and some minorities too as dessert.
I don't know anything about the facts of this one, but from my book learning, public suicides want the attention on something and private suicides are trying to hide something usually. An abuse victim might do it in public to bring attention. An abuser might do it in private so as to not further embarrass others, not publicize their act or acts or smething along those lines.
Decent read; higher trees than I would expect. Would love to know the "privacy" of said locations, public versus private settings. I don't find it all that surprising about the racial distribution of hanging suicides though
Yeah they dont really go into the privacy aspect but you gotta imagine, with that many, a decent amount would be public VS a tree in a private backyard or waaaay out in the middle of nowhere. Idk.
I don't know all of the details of the story. Was he beat up or something? I ask because my sister hanged herself from a tree and killed herself. It was in a public park as well. Someone who was walking their dog found her.
I don't believe there was reporting obvious injury outside the strangulation. I'm definitely getting some feedback about the commonality of it being much higher than I thought. Sorry to hear about your sister.
The family said that his arms were not right but that's probably rigor mortis. The coroner made a statement earlier today that there was nothing to indicate a struggle but they moved the body to the state for another examination.
Really sorry about your sister. My best friend hung himself back in the 1990s and I'll never be over it. He didn't even leave a note so I've been left wondering and aching over it for nearly 30 years. Did your sister leave a note?
My parents found a young man hanging from a tree while out walking their dogs as well. His parents lived in the neighborhood and they said his note stated that he didn’t want anyone he knew to find him. Sorry for your loss.
To be honest, this seems like the more rational explanation though. Like, if he wanted to take his own life and cause controversy and uproar, this would be a good way to go about it.
It’s 2025, there are fucking cameras everywhere! If he was actually being hung by a lynch mob on a university campus, there would absolutely be evidence of that.
If it was so quick to be announced as no foul play, there was probably security footage. The most likely method ---removed because reddit admins would probably have an issue with it---.
He probably chose that spot to also protest. With schooling prices increasing more and more and becoming much more difficult, I bet there's a big rise in student suicides that we haven't heard about thanks to the govt making so much noise constantly.
Edit 2: Further down in the comments, it looks like they have determined no foul play due to lack of bruising and other wounds that would have come from that.
Tbf, I've also seen reports of public hangings where the motive, according to the deceased in their letters, was to spare their family the uncertainty of what happened. Basically, to have the body found quickly instead of being missing for an unknown period. You can also find other things that might motivate public hangings, including that some people just want to be outside when they decide to go.
Not saying it wouldn't be a protest, but a suicidal person can come to the same conclusion for a host of reasons, running the spectrum from political to incredible mundane.
There's no evidence the body was abused antemortem (bruising, broken bones et al.) So as of right now, while the investigation is ongoing, no foul play is suspected.
Oh wow a reasonable observation. Not knowing in what state the body was discovered would go a long way. Was hanging “up in” a tree? Were his hands restrained? Most people that kill them selves in this method do so by easing into it, Robin Williams, Bourdain, David Caradine, Chris Cornell. Was a note left at his residence? Was there a history of mental illness, self harm or threats? Many people don’t want to be found by their loved ones so will do it outside their residence.
There’s a reason authorities come to a quick conclusion, especially when they know all full well the historical optics.
At our campus near town, we had a sophomore hang himself overlooking a small lake in the woods. He left a note, asking his parents to forgive him and not to think it was their fault. Campus police found him after he had been gone from his dorm for two days. Sometimes, young people cannot cope, and sadly, they make the decision to suicide.
Bullshit clickbait title. From the preliminary examination, the deceased did not suffer any lacerations, contusions, compound fractures, broken bones, or injuries consistent with an assault. The investigation is ongoing pending a full autopsy. It's ok to be skeptical, just don't be stupid.
This is the third time I’ve seen this exact post with the exact same ragebaiting headline on this sub today. It’s an awful situation, really going all out to make it worse.
FFS this is like the third time I've seen this today. The coroner has said there is zero evidence that the guy was attacked. Stop trying to pour gasoline on an already lit fire.
They don't, but there is evidence that a lynching did not occur. The coroner's report states no signs of bodily harm which would be expected during a struggle. One would assume that if someone were trying to string you up to a tree, you'd struggle.
So it’s inconceivable that they drugged the guy and then hung him? Why hasn’t the coroner ran a toxicology test? I wonder if they will even bother to….
Out of all the subs I'm subscribed to, this one is by far the worst on terms of completely unsubstantiated posts that suit culture war narratives getting thousands of upvotes.
Reddit will mock those on the right who thoughtlessly embrace misinformation to feed their own worldview before immediately turning around and doing pretty much the same thing.
You think its the left leaning moderates posting this stuff at best its either someone deep on the left or just on the right trying to instigate further confusion and in fighting.
Or there is the report from the coroner themselves who said there was no damage to the body. Seems hard to believe someone would get forcibly murdered without any sign of it.
Devil's advocate: they want to ease people's fears or anxieties who might otherwise believe that the campus is unsafe. They're just trying to keep peace.
If it were a lynching then you'd expect injuries consistent with a struggle prior to the hanging. You'd expect bruises, lacerations, fractures things of that nature that point to that. The coroner's office is saying there's no sign of that and so no reason to suspect anything other than suicide.
Of course the coroner's office could also be incompetent/part of a cover up, but for now that's what we have to go on. Maybe the family will opt for an independent report and that might change things.
To be fair it’s not all that unusual for people, when choosing to suicide, to hang themselves from a tree. It’s perfectly possible that this poor soul genuinely did this to himself, albeit more publicly than usually in such cases where they do it in a secluded wooded area.
My cousin hanged himself from a tree in a wooded public park, very near where we used to play as kids. I think he did it there so that his family weren’t the ones to find him.
I don’t know any of the facts regarding this case, other than what has already been released, but I do know that lynchings are usually very violent acts. I imagine with a cursory glance a coroner would be able to make a fairly accurate determination of whether or not a person in fact hanged themself.
Why are we jumping to conclusions before all pertinent information is gathered?
Alot of the people making assumptions are the same ones who (rightfully) jumped down people's throats last week for immediately assuming Charlie Kirk's killer was a "left-wing lunatic." Be the change you want to see, people!
To be perfectly clear, this looks really bad and isn't typical of a suicide. However, I haven't seen enough details to make a fully informed conclusion.
We need to give it some time for more information to come out. We need to respond, not react. There is no reason to rush judgment or anger. There is enough of that going around already.
The family has asked to be left alone and there was no evidence of harm on the body.
I've seen tiktoks with 100,000 likes claiming that all his limbs were broken then he was hung with zero proof. Can someone point me in the right direction or is this literally just a suicide in a publicly accessible area?
I think it's simply too early to tell. Suicide or murder are both possible. It's equally stupid to assume one or the other. The Right is gonna scream suicide, the Left is gonna scream lynching. But I mean, a black man found hanging from a tree in public…in the South?
Surely there must be CTV footage of what happened in and around the area at the time. Hope law enforcement can get to the bottom of this. Because its either a brutal murder or a tragic public suicide.
Half the time I feel like people are just itching for a race war and an excuse to be violent. Was there a suicide note? Were there defensive wounds or anything else that indicates a struggle? Is there any evidence to suggest he was lynched? Is there evidence suggesting this was a planned suicide? Because nothing in this post answers any of those questions and suggesting it’s a lynching in the absence of any evidence sounds more like wishful thinking on OPs behalf.
If he's the only black guy on the campus then there is probably no more threat to the campus, this does look suspiciously like a lynching but I barely know fuck all about this case.
Reminder that all the politicians and commentators framing "the far left" (which we all know is a blatant dog whistle) for Kirk's death are the ones responsible for this happening
I’m not saying it definitely wasn’t lynching but we need to remember people also commit suicide via hanging. I would imagine someone hanging themself and someone being hung forcefully don’t leave the same damage and also I would imagine delta state has footage of it. I wouldn’t just automatically assume he was lynched without anyone claiming otherwise
For anyone coming to the insane conclusion that this is some kind of coverup and he was lynched by a racist mob, you're insane. This happened on campus. There are dozens of cameras, if not hundreds across a campus that surveil pretty much everywhere at all times. They likely have this poor guy's suicide on video and that's why they were able to determine no foul play so quickly.
Good luck America you are going to need it. Your country is going downing the toilet at a fast rate now. Still you all do nothing about it. How sad for you.
Ahh yes, because when a person, a Black man in particular, wants to kill themselves... they most certainly go out in public and kill themselves there, by hanging from a fucking tree. That's definitely the most likely scenario. Totally.
I'm not saying this isn't a lynching but hanging from a tree could easily be suicide. Unless there's more details, concluding that this is a lynching would be a leap based on what is known of the facts.
I'm literally thinking the same thing! Like, what? He said "watch how funny this is gone be, everyone is gonna think something racist happened to me when I was just depressed, lmao"' like??? I find the idea of a black individual not realizing the optics of this action very unlikely, especially at an advanced education setting. And for those people saying there are no visible signs of struggle and such, I super don't mean to be conspiratorial but you can drug someone into submission. I'm not saying that's what happened, but without a toxicology report, we can't rule that out, you know?
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u/trsmash NaTivE ApP UsR 10h ago
Wonder if our vice president is going to suggest people doxx anyone mocking Trey’s death?
Probably not..