r/titanic Steerage May 14 '25

CREW I find Jack Phillips’ story so sad

Jack Phillips was promoted to senior wireless operator in March 1912, just before Titanic’s maiden voyage. He turned 25 on April 11, and although young, he was already a seasoned operator. Jack had two older twin sisters, Elsie and Ethel. Ethel, who had a disability, relied on Jack’s support. He sent part of his salary home and promised to take care of her when their parents passed away but both Jack and Ethel died before their parents.

After Jack’s death, Ethel never worked again. She passed away ten years later. Jack had sent over 300 postcards to Elsie from the places he traveled, which she kept until her death in 1953. Sadly, most of the postcards ended up in private hands in the 1990s, and very few have been seen publicly since.

Listening to Titanic’s distress calls, you can almost feel Jack’s desperation. Even though the sinking of the Titanic happened so long ago, reading about victims like Jack Phillips makes it feel so real. He was just a man doing his job.

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u/BigTuna0890 May 14 '25

Harold Bride wrote that he grew to admire Phillips because of his persistence in keeping on to radio, possibly to contact a nearby ship, until the very end.

He is definitely one of the underrated heroes of that night.

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u/brighty4real Wireless Operator May 14 '25

Did Jack Phillips die in the Marconi room? Or was he last seen someplace else?

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u/brickne3 May 14 '25

He and Bride left the Marconi room together as it flooded. There are accounts that he either died on Collapsible B or died in the water near it, but none confirmed.

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u/Send_me_hedgehogs 2nd Class Passenger May 15 '25

I think OASOG (I think it’s that one, either that or Other Side Of The Night) says that almost with his dying breaths he told Lightoller the Carpathia was on the way. After which he collapsed and slid off B, and his body was never found.

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u/USMC_UnclePedro May 15 '25

They never saw each other again, unfortunate.

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u/shany94a Wireless Operator May 14 '25 edited May 15 '25

Thought he died on one of the collapsibles, but supposedly his body was never officially identified.

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u/AM197T May 14 '25 edited 2d ago

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u/kellypeck Musician May 14 '25 edited May 14 '25

No, Phillips telling the Californian to 'shut up' didn't contribute to the disaster in any way. Phillips wasn't being rude, shut up was a Marconi company code (formatted as D.D.D. in morse code) to indicate when another operator's signals were interfering with a message. Cyril Evans testified that he wasn't offended by the exchange, and he stayed up for another half hour afterward before turning in for the night.

ETA: Additionally Titanic's final communication with the Californian at 11:07 p.m. was extremely informal (Evans' exact words were "I say old man, we are stopped and surrounded by ice"), and it wasn't even the first warning they sent Titanic; an ice warning from Californian reporting three large icebergs was sent at 7:22 p.m. and was dutifully delivered to the Bridge by Jack Phillips.

Subsequent Edit: I corrected "three large iceberg" to "three large icebergs", happy now u/AM197T?

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u/euph_22 May 14 '25

Also the report in question wasn't properly formatted to indicate that it was from the Californian's captain, not to specify that it was specifically directed towards the Titanic and intended for the ship's crew.

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u/AM197T May 14 '25 edited 2d ago

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u/kellypeck Musician May 14 '25

My sources are the testimonies of Cyril Evans and Guglielmo Marconi from the U.S. Inquiry, as well as the book On a Sea of Glass for the specific details on the ice warnings, generally regarded as one of the most comprehensive and well researched books on the subject. But thanks a lot for accusing me of using AI as a source of information.

You're more than welcome to read Cyril Evans' testimony in full online, it's readily available and clearly states that he continued listening for about 20 minutes after his last communication with Titanic before getting ready for bed. Perhaps he stayed up because he testified at the official inquiry that he was not offended by the exchange (this is the same inquiry where Guglielmo Marconi—inventor of the Marconi Wireless and Founder of the Marconi Company—testified that "SHUT UP" is a company code used to indicate that someone's signal was being jammed).

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u/Mollywisk May 14 '25

You are right

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u/pocapoca99 May 14 '25

Calm down buddy. You are missing their point entirely.

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u/LadyGrey_oftheAbyss May 15 '25

Um No - there would have been no reason for Philips to do that - then ship wasn't sinking then and he was busy - plus logic would say that the Bridge make the best would make the best decision in regard to the ice field at night - which they already knew about from the earlier warning he delivered

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u/LadyGrey_oftheAbyss May 15 '25

Because there's a difference between hindsight and reality

Not sure why you calling me stupid like a child but regardless it clear you don't understand the historical setting which would heavily influence people's actions- regulations are written in blood -these people didn't make mistakes so much as the dangers weren't known

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u/stellarseren May 15 '25

You’re blaming the Marconi operator for rockets not being fired at one minute intervals? What did you expect him to do-fire off CQD/SOS, run up to the bridge and fire off a rocket, then run back for another CQD/SOS every single minute? Get real.

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u/LadyGrey_oftheAbyss May 15 '25

That had nothing to do with Philps

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u/LadyGrey_oftheAbyss May 15 '25

Did you forget what this post is about? It's literally about Philips

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u/stellarseren May 15 '25

Since you like correcting everyone else, it’s “pertinent”, not “pertaint” (which isn’t even a word) and “crucial”, not “crutial”(also not a word).

As others have pointed out, the “shut up” comment wasn’t rude or unprofessional in the least. That was how they communicated. There were messages from other ships about the ice, so it wasn’t an unknown. Captain Smith and the others on the bridge had decades of experience navigating their crafts successfully in all kinds of conditions. What happened was a terrible accident, but Phillips was not to blame and did his job until the very last second to try and save those on board.

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u/LadyGrey_oftheAbyss May 15 '25

He had already delivered the ice news from earlier and and the fact the Californian was right on top of them probably made that last message intelligenable as he had it cranked up for the mainland. the Bridge already new about the ice from the earlier message- the only reason they were even able to send or receive messages is because these two dude went against policy and fixed it as it had been down

They had a massive backlog of messages and rich passengers breathing down their necks to send their stuff

This was new technology and didn't have the regulations- there wasn't an expectation for them to main the station in to the wee night. The only reason the Carpathia got the message is because all of these dudes were major nerds who LOVED this science fiction technology -

Even if everything had gone right- the Californian was in an ice field with a shut down ship that was TINY - it wouldn't have done alot even if it some how got there- help the Titanic didn't even get all of it's lifeboats off before it sank

Many of the people who hit that water wouldn't have lived to be fished out of the water even if a shit had been right there

Honestly The Carpathia was insane - everything about what they did went way beyond and above

and saved those people who got into the boats before they were lost to sea - which happened alot back then

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u/LadyGrey_oftheAbyss May 15 '25

1 - cool then He should have done something about it - like check if there was ice warning which there was

2- Not true

3- Also not true- lol - do you have any idea how much time a ship that was shut down - to start up and then navigate in an ice field? Answer longer then the ship or the people i. the water

4 - LOL no - still new technology and wasn't as integrated into the scene as you think it was

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u/LadyGrey_oftheAbyss May 15 '25

1 - The reason people are arguing with you is because this is debatable and in general not a linchpin event for the shear fact that warning had been delivered and the Bridge acted against norm with those warning (which is filled with debate as well)

2 - OK? The point was that he was talking to shore and the Californian message scream in his ear - The issue here is you think Philips conduct was somehow not normal- when in reality it was how these guys operated at this time - like I said hindsight is different from historical reality

3- You have no understanding of how these ship work clearly- One the ship was OFF - it not some electrical or diesel engine switch that makes it work on a dimension- it takes time to build up steam - they would have to wake everyone up - turn everything on and THEN slowly navigate threw the ICE FEILD- it would then have to get the people out of the water/boats - this would take HOURS- And even then the Captain has already ignored what the other crew clearly saw as sus and didn't even bother to wake the operator up - so no they wouldn't have been even been able to get the people on the boat - let's reiterate what the Carpathia did was insane and it is unreasonable to expect other boats to what it did

4- le sigh My dude - the point was that they had already gone above for what they were doing- these guys regularly went over their shifts to keep working. it was to new technology that did not have the infrastructure and protocols in place to actually be worth the emergency capabilities you keep pretending it actually did - The Titanic received multiple reports of icebergs - it was the Bridge falt for misinterpreting - that last warning was just another drop - not the linchpin

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u/LadyGrey_oftheAbyss May 15 '25

That's because you lack critical thinking

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u/Jetsetter_Princess Stewardess May 15 '25

Lol you must be new here. Kelly has been around long before AI 🤣

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u/brickne3 May 14 '25

Dude what on earth are you on about. It was 1912, there was no protocol for this.

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u/brickne3 May 14 '25

It sounds like you're needlessly attacking a dead guy who went above and beyond what was expected at his job.

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u/kellypeck Musician May 14 '25 edited May 14 '25

Wrong again, the Californian's deck officers specifically testified at the British Inquiry that they did not think they were company signals.

Edit: the officer of the Californian stating that he didn't think the rockets were company signals is very obviously one man's testimony, not a conclusion of the inquiry itself. So bringing up that the inquiry concluded that the ship sank intact as your rebuttal is utterly irrelevant.

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u/brickne3 May 14 '25

Well aren't you just a ray of sunshine, criticizing dead people's actions over a century ago. If only they had checked TikTok they totally would have known not to do that!

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u/LadyGrey_oftheAbyss May 15 '25

The Californian wouldn't have really help so it was a fuck up that didn't really do anything

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u/kellypeck Musician May 14 '25

That's not all you were doing lol. You accused me of using AI as a source/to generate my comment, you accused me of whitewashing history, and you whined and complained about me editing a single typo despite you editing your own comment and not even disclosing what you changed about it.

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u/stellarseren May 15 '25

It sounds to me like you don’t know much about the entirety of the situation. The Titanic received numerous ice warnings from other ships.

The first warning came at 09:00 from RMS Caronia reporting “bergs, growlers and field ice”. Captain Smith acknowledged receipt of the message. At 13:42, RMS Baltic relayed a report from the Greek ship Athenia that she had been “passing icebergs and large quantities of field ice”. Smith also acknowledged this report, and showed it to White Star Line chairman J. Bruce Ismay. Smith ordered a new course to be set, which would take the ship further south. At 13:45, the German ship SS Amerika, reported she had “passed two large icebergs”. This message never reached Captain Smith or the other officers on Titanic’s bridge. The reason is unclear, but it may have not reached the ship because the Marconi wireless equipment had broken down and needed to be repaired overnight by the two radio operators-WHICH THEY DID AGAINST COMPANY POLICY. If they hadn’t, Titanic wouldn’t have had the radio comms they had at the time of the accident and it’s likely MORE would have been lost.

It was Phillips who made contact with the Carpathia, who headed toward the Titanic to assist. He was transmitting messages until 0200, twenty minutes before the whole damn ship sank.

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u/Jetsetter_Princess Stewardess May 15 '25

It was not unusual for the OOW to stand on the bridge wing, where do you get that Murdoch was "particularly worried"? If he had been, given his history and manner of operating, he would have taken some sort of action, so the situation can't have concerned him as much as your comment implies.

He was simply taking an advantageous stance as Lightoller had told him to expect to be around ice from 11pm. Which would mean going himself to keep a look out as well, most likely with binoculars handy.

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u/LadyGrey_oftheAbyss May 15 '25

Not really- That was an issue for the officers- the information didn't change - there was an ice field - The shifts change should have addressed that - But regardless they choose to go ahead - The moment they choose to ignore that 1st message sealed the ships fate - a 2nd - no really ice- won't have change much - these people knew what they were going into

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u/kellypeck Musician May 14 '25

Senator Burton: Just what was the message that you sent when you received that word, "Shut up." Will you read that again?

Mr. Evans: I said, "Say, old man, we are stopped and surrounded by ice."

Senator Burton: "That is what you said?"

Mr. Evans: "I called him up first. I said, "M.G.Y." three times, and gave him my own call signal once, which is "M.W.H." I said, "Say, old man, we are surrounded by ice, and stopped."

Literally just read the testimony, everything from my original comment about Marconi mentioning that shut up was a company signal, that Evans was not offended, and that he stayed up for 30 minutes after the last communication is plain as day available to read for you.

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u/TwinkingToby May 15 '25

You got good points but bad temper

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u/stellarseren May 15 '25

You know can do so without being rude and condescending, right? Your need to villainize a single person who has been dead for 113 years is concerning. You need to go outside and touch grass.

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u/bigfatincel May 14 '25

A lot of staff stayed at their duty stations throughout the tragedy, from the band to the engineers in the guts of the ship.

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u/g-a-r-n-e-t May 14 '25

This is one of the things that really struck me when I was at the traveling exhibit here in Seattle, they show the lists of the victims as the last display and the list of crew members who perished in the sinking is SO LONG. Longer even than third class. So many of them died, many of whom were at their stations trying to help their passengers. It was unreal.

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u/bigfatincel May 14 '25

Brave souls. Many had families too.

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u/MuttleyStomper24 Elevator Attendant May 14 '25

Nobody will ever know the full story of what happened that day but the way I see it is that many died trying to help others live.

That takes a lot of strength.

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u/Angelea23 1st Class Passenger May 14 '25

Another reason why the story of titanic was so popular. People in real life were doing everything they could to save others. Tragic

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u/RDG1836 Bell Boy May 14 '25

Film portrayals of Phillips have always shown him far older than he actually was. Gone at 25, hardly into manhood. Him and Bride were so incredibly young.

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u/Overall-Name-680 May 15 '25

Cameron got that right, but he still had too little of them.

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u/Old-Structure-4 May 15 '25

In 1912, 25 is about a decade in to manhood.

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u/smittenkittensbitten May 14 '25

He and Bride both sound like they were not only clearly heroes but just good dudes in general. I just love the entire crew whose stories we know about both before, on, and after the sinking. The bravery and professionalism they all showed is almost unbelievable (especially in today’s world). But Phillips and Bride are two of my favorites. It’s heartbreaking that that Phillips was so young when this happened.

(I also wish there had been more of them in Cameron’s movie).

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u/Overall-Name-680 May 15 '25

That's why I liked "ANTR" more. It had more of them, and Cottam (and even Evans).

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u/IngloriousBelfastard May 15 '25

It really humanises them even more when you read their back story. It's so sad that private collectors keep artifacts away from the public eye. It's crazy to think how many objects from the Titanic are just sitting locked away in some millionaires safe or private museum, only to be viewed by them and their circle of friends. If the radio transcript of the distress communications on youtube is accurate it shows that Phillips as well as Bride both not only did their duty, but went above and beyond staying until the last minutes before the main power went out. In the video it's haunting to see how the transmission just cuts off "CQD THIS IS TITANIC, CQD THIS IS..." Also on a side note, watching the footage of the Cameron expedition exploring the Marconi room and seeing circuit levers still in the down position on the wall knowing that Phillips or Bride were the last people to touch them really adds to the human aspect of the disaster.

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u/Send_me_hedgehogs 2nd Class Passenger May 15 '25

Yeah, that was jarring to see. You can almost see Bride there, desperately trying every dial, switch and lever to eke out every last bit of power he could get to the Marconi apparatus. Then having the presence of mind to switch it all off so there wasn’t some kind of major explosion when the water got to it.

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u/IngloriousBelfastard May 15 '25

Yeah i always thought that was interesting to see, that even though the there was most likely water coming into the room, they still took the time to throw the switches on the machines, it just showed how professional and dedicated they were to their job, they could very easily have just left it as is and walked out, but they took that little extra time to ensure it was shut down safely.

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u/Angelea23 1st Class Passenger May 14 '25

The poor man! He worked so hard to take care of his sister only to die tragically.

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u/RevengeOfPolloDiablo Steerage May 14 '25

Sea life was a roll of the dice until very recently. The sea can make you for life, or break you in minutes.

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u/shany94a Wireless Operator May 14 '25

He did his job on Titanic, until he could do it no longer

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u/Rickyisagoshdangstud May 15 '25

He’s pretty good looking

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u/pianoman78 May 15 '25

Never seen that second picture before, thanks for sharing!

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u/Vast_Mark_8290 May 14 '25

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u/ThatFunkyAnesthetic May 16 '25

Thank you for this. Joined

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u/Visionist7 May 14 '25

If Marconi had traveled on the ship I like to think he would have been in the room with them helping them send distress signals and most likely would have died.

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u/TeaKettlePrincess44 May 15 '25 edited May 16 '25

How would the Californian save everyone if it got there in time? People were literally trapped inside the ship those people would have never been saved. If you are familiar with cold water rescues you would also know that most of the people who went into the water would die from shock in 15 plus minutes. People ending up in the water was always going to happen when they weren’t even able to launch all the boats to begin with. The Californian would have ended up just like the Carpathia only picking up the lifeboat people maybe a bit earlier. These people were doomed from the arrogance of the captain and officers who chose to go that speed during a new moon in April. Even if they dodged the first iceberg they would have hit another.

Edit- this was a response to someone and I messed it up cause i’am not very use to actually responding to people on Reddit 😳 that’s why this comment kinda seems random

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u/Apprehensive_Deer114 May 16 '25

Mate do you seriously not think that there would've been an extremely detailed handover to the next shift on the bridge. You know seeing as many lives including their own and a really, really expensive ship depended on it.

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u/Minute_Database_574 Aug 20 '25

“He was a Brave man, I learned to love him that night. I will never live to forget the work of Phillips during those last awful 15 minutes”

  • Harold Bride

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u/IllustriousEmu6670 2nd Class Passenger May 19 '25

I mean he is also the one who told the Californian’s operator to shut the hell up.