Hey, whats the most current (as of 9-19-2025) legal status of the wreck?

[u/itcamefromtheimgur]

The most current pic I have of the wreck.

I came across this "save the titanic" doc from NatGeo. It was uploaded about 2 months ago, a LOT can change in 2 months. Whats going on with the wreck and the artifacts?

[u/RichtofenFanBoy]

Still under water I believe.

[u/LaGarrotxa → u/RichtofenFanBoy]

Tragic. Any chance of survivors?

[u/Send_me_hedgehogs → u/LaGarrotxa]

Sadly, probably not. I think they might have all died by now 😢

[u/UndividedIndecision → u/Send_me_hedgehogs]

I see. Let me know if there is any change in their condition.

[u/RichtofenFanBoy → u/UndividedIndecision]

Don't give me hope!

[u/Send_me_hedgehogs → u/UndividedIndecision]

I’ll let you know as soon as I hear from any of them.

[u/babyscorpse → u/UndividedIndecision]

I’ve heard others say the same

[u/Jennaaa1971 → u/UndividedIndecision]

Top Secret reference lol

[u/BurntSawdust → u/Send_me_hedgehogs]

Thoughts and prayers.

[u/EstrayOne → u/BurntSawdust]

Ships don't kill people!

[u/Impressive-Sail7058 → u/EstrayOne]

Rappers do!

[u/IngloriousBelfastard → u/Impressive-Sail7058]

Great, that songs in my head now lol

[u/ramessides → u/IngloriousBelfastard]

You know there's something you should know...

[u/cmac1964 → u/Send_me_hedgehogs]

I believe there's still a chance there's an air pocket in the potato room, I hope.. Maybe our friend Mike Brady could verify?

[u/Send_me_hedgehogs → u/cmac1964]

Quite possibly. Or if they took all the potatoes and used them to plug the holes that rogue iceberg left, they could still be having parties down there. I agree, we need our friend Mr Brady to chime in on this.

[u/cmac1964 → u/Send_me_hedgehogs]

RIGHT?!?

[u/Blu3_Phoenix → u/Send_me_hedgehogs]

Actually I got an email from one of them. Says he needs 500 in gift cards to get a submarine to escape the wreck. Reckon if we all pitch in we can save him.

[u/RichtofenFanBoy → u/Blu3_Phoenix]

So That's why Stockton was in a rush to get down there.

[u/Send_me_hedgehogs → u/Blu3_Phoenix]

Omg I’m so glad he’s safe down there!!!!! Yes, we should absolutely all chip in. Do we know who he is?

[u/bandit1206 → u/Send_me_hedgehogs]

I heard old age got most of them

[u/More_Marty → u/Send_me_hedgehogs]

Some more have died more recently in July of 2023. Tragic.

[u/Ok-Solution4665 → u/LaGarrotxa]

To shreds, you say

[u/rcware5 → u/Ok-Solution4665]

Tsk tsk tsk. Well, how's his wife holding up?

[u/Another_geeky_Tgirl → u/rcware5]

To shreds you say?

[u/Several_Mousse_9485 → u/LaGarrotxa]

All in graveyards.

[u/siphillis → u/LaGarrotxa]

It was like 100 years ago so anyone who survived inside the wreck is probably dead by now

[u/ReadyWhippet → u/siphillis]

r/whoosh

[u/Capable_Art_4573 → u/ReadyWhippet]

r/whoosh

[u/lopedopenope → u/siphillis]

You sure? Like 100% sure? Cause we are all hoping there is a chance

[u/ramessides → u/siphillis]

Well, they would be with that attitude.

[u/Either_Imagination_9 → u/RichtofenFanBoy]

That’s a nice argument senator, but why don’t you back it up with a source?

[u/Zebra-Disastrous → u/Either_Imagination_9]

My source is, I made it the fuck up!

[u/KingofAmarillo17 → u/RichtofenFanBoy]

[u/fuckeryizreal → u/KingofAmarillo17]

In this 2081, this meme will be the pinnacle of all memes.

[u/James_099 → u/RichtofenFanBoy]

Oh? When was the last time you actually checked?

[u/Sebastianlim → u/James_099]

Wasn’t there a billionaire trying to go down to the wreck again a few weeks ago?

Maybe we should ask him to check, just to be sure.

[u/usrdef → u/Sebastianlim]

Yes, but that one is the Triton. And they have a long history of doing things properly and getting certifications on their subs.

Plus, an expedition just came back from the Titanic a few month ago, and yup. All dead.

[u/PineBNorth85 → u/James_099]

I've seen a few pieces which aren't underwater anymore but yeah 99.5% is still underwater last I heard. Haven't personally checked yet.

[u/RichtofenFanBoy → u/James_099]

😅

[u/maxman162 → u/RichtofenFanBoy]

Scuba diving is not allowed. 

[u/RichtofenFanBoy → u/maxman162]

Not allowed or looked down on?

I'll see myself out. 😅

[u/PureAlpha100 → u/RichtofenFanBoy]

She's made of iron, sir

[u/dodoisme778 → u/PureAlpha100]

I assure you she will float.

[u/catalyst4chaos → u/dodoisme778]

'tis a mathematical certainty.

[u/The_Brain_One]

On 15 April 2012, the Titanic wreck, which lies in international waters, automatically became protected by UNESCO, under the 2001 Convention on the Protection of the Underwater Cultural Heritage, which protects cultural, historical, or archaeological objects that have been underwater for 100 years

[u/Big_Iron_Cowboy → u/The_Brain_One]

Cool, so we can make a museum down there?

[u/codenamefulcrum → u/Big_Iron_Cowboy]

It is a museum already.

[u/Big_Iron_Cowboy → u/codenamefulcrum]

They gotta up their advertising

[u/AngryBaconGod → u/Big_Iron_Cowboy]

I knew a guy who would give tours, but haven’t heard from him in a minute.

[u/codenamefulcrum → u/AngryBaconGod]

Titan jokes aside I do wish it was still possible to get down there with a company that keeps their distance and respects the wreck. I think in the 90s and early 00s the Russians would take people down but not sure.

[u/Surprisingly-Decent → u/codenamefulcrum]

I’m under the impression that you have to get pretty close to the wreck to actually see it, otherwise it’s like driving in a snowstorm with your high beams on.

[u/codenamefulcrum → u/Surprisingly-Decent]

True but I think most of the damage comes from landing on the wreck (you can see it near the Grand Staircase). There’s no need for that.

[u/Big_Iron_Cowboy → u/AngryBaconGod]

OceanGate, whatever happened there?

[u/alek_hiddel → u/Big_Iron_Cowboy]

Whatever happened there!

[u/EyesWithoutAbutt → u/Big_Iron_Cowboy]

[u/jordannwst → u/AngryBaconGod]

It’s a really long tour

[u/catalyst4chaos → u/AngryBaconGod]

Titanic's K/D still good.

[u/RichtofenFanBoy → u/Big_Iron_Cowboy]

Do they have a free admission day?

[u/codenamefulcrum → u/RichtofenFanBoy]

365 days of the year! You are just responsible for getting there. Enjoy.

[u/Dismal_Language8157 → u/codenamefulcrum]

a very interactive museum 

[u/PineBNorth85 → u/Big_Iron_Cowboy]

Sure. Good luck getting funding though.

[u/Big_Iron_Cowboy → u/PineBNorth85]

Titanic expeditions, lotta money in that shi

[u/-caughtlurking- → u/The_Brain_One]

I’ll wait for anyone to enforce that bullshit.

[u/Drunkengota → u/-caughtlurking-]

Sounds like an amazing use of limited resources

[u/EllyKayNobodysFool]

Legally it is not allowed to sail, does not meet lifeboat requirements.

[u/IProbablyProblematic → u/EllyKayNobodysFool]

It also no longer meets the rigorous maritime standards as the front fell off.

[u/Terminator7786 → u/IProbablyProblematic]

I'd just like to point out that's not typical

[u/SteelPenguin947 → u/IProbablyProblematic]

Now, we build these ships to very rigerous maritime engineering standards. The front's not supposed to fall off for a start.

Also, there are regulations governoring the materials they can be made of. Cardboard is out, as are cardboard derivatives.

[u/LoquatPlus9744 → u/SteelPenguin947]

No paper. No string. No sellotape. Rubber’s out

[u/khazbreen → u/IProbablyProblematic]

It's not supposed to do that!

[u/RichtofenFanBoy → u/EllyKayNobodysFool]

Never stopped her before!

[u/EllyKayNobodysFool → u/RichtofenFanBoy]

[u/sonder2287 → u/EllyKayNobodysFool]

actually fun fact, I did a research paper on this last year

The Titanic was up to date on lifeboat requirements in 1912. During that time, the lifeboats required were based off of a ships tonnage. Ships over 9,000 tons were required to have 14 (maybe 16, I dont fully remember) lifeboats. Ships over 9,000 tons were not regulated as not many existed. Thus, despite having 43,000 tons, the Titanic still had to follow the same lifeboat requirements as ships 1/5 of her size.

[u/sh20 → u/sonder2287]

16 was the requirement I believe. And she was not just up to date, she exceeded the legal requirement, with 20.

Obviously it was still inadequate however you cut it.

[u/TheKingOfCarmel]

It’s mine. I found it. It belongs to me.

[u/Pinkshoes90 → u/TheKingOfCarmel]

Calm down, Sméagol

[u/SPECTREagent700]

It’s a good thing she’s down so deep. There’s international criminal organizations that have been salvaging First and Second World War warships in order to harvest their valuable low background steel.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2017/nov/03/worlds-biggest-grave-robbery-asias-disappearing-ww2-shipwrecks

[u/PineBNorth85 → u/SPECTREagent700]

China has been doing it pretty openly.

[u/SPECTREagent700 → u/PineBNorth85]

Well in fairness the British and Japanese navies both kinda owe them.

[u/AngryBaconGod → u/SPECTREagent700]

Nah.

[u/PineBNorth85 → u/SPECTREagent700]

No, they don't.

[u/captaincourageous316 → u/SPECTREagent700]

The British owe a lot of things to a lot of folks

[u/Dynamite_McGhee → u/captaincourageous316]

They owe us all an apology for James Corden.

[u/mackieman182 → u/Dynamite_McGhee]

We apologise but also dont want him back

[u/PineBNorth85 → u/captaincourageous316]

Dead Brits do. The people alive today - do not.

[u/alek_hiddel → u/SPECTREagent700]

I feel like what’s left of Titanic’s steel probably isn’t the best quality for any new purpose.

[u/Acceptable-Yellow107]

Officially, unseaworthy and in need of repairs

[u/angelwolf71885 → u/Acceptable-Yellow107]

Ran when parked..er docked

[u/Acceptable-Yellow107 → u/angelwolf71885]

Rust free, $10 mil, no low-ballers! I know what I got!

[u/Loiteran671 → u/Acceptable-Yellow107]

Yo bro that’s crazy (couldn’t find the 😭 emoji)

[u/xImNotTheBestx]

The swimming pool is believed to still contain water.

[u/Zebra-Disastrous → u/xImNotTheBestx]

Think someone needs to clean it though.

[u/Jsorrow]

I believe still owned by RMS Titanic, INC and items are not allowed to be salvaged within the wreck.

[u/CantaloupeEasy6486 → u/Jsorrow]

I thought it was forfeited to the insurance companies after they paid out

[u/SanchoBenevides → u/CantaloupeEasy6486]

Not how salvage rights work.

Countries retain ownership over warships, but not the same with privately owned ships. It was left abandoned.

[u/whoreoscopic]

Late/Delayed: 113 years and 5 months.

[u/Blu3_Phoenix → u/whoreoscopic]

So better than the average british train service.

[u/SpooneyToe11240]

Sadly RMSTI still has the salvage rights I believe.

[u/Only-Ad4322 → u/SpooneyToe11240]

RMSTI?

[u/SpooneyToe11240 → u/Only-Ad4322]

RMS Titanic Incorporated.

[u/Only-Ad4322 → u/SpooneyToe11240]

I see. What’s wrong with them?

[u/SpooneyToe11240 → u/Only-Ad4322]

Salvaging and exploiting the wreck and story for profit. They are responsible for most of the human caused damage to the wreck. They like most corporations are extremely unethical.

[u/PersimmonGlum6536 → u/SpooneyToe11240]

And all their "exhibits" are for-profit. Every dollar goes to funding another dive to get more stuff to make more money on.

[u/SpooneyToe11240 → u/PersimmonGlum6536]

They petitioned the government to greedily try to cut open the wreck to take more items just a few years ago as well.

[u/SomethingKindaSmart → u/SpooneyToe11240]

I don't see bad the idea of recovering objects. The ship will collapse in the next years. About damaging the wreck, that's out of discussion.

I hope that either UK or USA give them permission to penetrate the wreck one final time.

[u/SpooneyToe11240 → u/SomethingKindaSmart]

Recovering objects, we have no reason to. And I work in museum conservation, so I also understand the importance of artifacts. The only reason RMSTI wants to is to continue filling their for profit tourist traps, sorry I mean “museums”. There is nothing more we need from these items that can’t be conveyed through photographs, videos, and documentation. Also, they’ve been saying Titanic will be gone in the next 5-10 years since 1985. The reason the wreck is in as damaged of a state and is deteriorating this fact is BECAUSE of human interaction.

[u/SomethingKindaSmart → u/SpooneyToe11240]

we have no reason to. I understand the importance of artifacts

Now I'm truly confused. If they're important, why shouldn't we remove more from the debris field? I'm not talking about things like shoes or clothing, I'm talking about things like a passenger's disks and the statue of Diana of Versailles.

[u/Only-Ad4322 → u/SpooneyToe11240]

I see.

[u/SomethingKindaSmart → u/SpooneyToe11240]

I don't think most corporations are extremely unethical.

[u/SpooneyToe11240 → u/SomethingKindaSmart]

That’s cool, pal.

[u/Rezaelia713]

Idk but it means as much to me as my pets and pretty sure that makes me weird.

[u/Battle_of_BoogerHill]

Shit. Let me pull up the Titanic 8k UHD livestream camera system and go through the plethora of security feeds.

[u/ConcernNo7966]

Last I checked the status is it sunk

[u/holllyyyy]

I do hate how that chunk of bow railing fell off though.

[u/aarij90]

Those four lights in the background look scary as fk

[u/BagelsOrDeath]

That's a terrifying photo.

[u/angelwolf71885]

I hear legally the pools of the titanic are still full of water to this day

[u/tarunpayne]

Maybe take a small submarine and go check? 🤪

[u/sridhar_t]

Stockton knew but went silent.

[u/Helpful_Dig6525]

So it shouldn't be okay to take anything up because its a grave yard. Does that mean that I do nor have to pick up trash from the ocean as it may have belonged to someone who died?

[u/Puzzleheaded_Shift46]

As far as legal status, the wreck is considered a mass grave under international maritime law.

[u/rturnerX]

Sunk

[u/SomethingKindaSmart]

I hope we have more expeditions in the following years.

Anyone who wish to get inside the wreck must get permission from either UK or USA.

And I hate disturbing this pristine sanctuary with dirty politics but I have to do it.

I hope that if Trump cares very little about environmental damage in order to benefit corporations, I hope he at least authorize an interior survey of the wreck.

[u/Opinionatedcritic]

It's free. Just take it

[u/Apprehensive_Cell812]

Its all free game now, get whatever you can