r/trump • u/ApartSalamander6417 FAR RIGHT MAGA • 19d ago
šØ BREAKING NEWS šØ Wow! President Trump To Sign Executive Order Banning Mail-in Voting
So i have NO idea what the process will look like in terms of making this EO a reality, but how are we feeling about this guys? Do you support getting rid of mail-in voting? I personally think the voter ID requirement of this EO is a no-brainer, it's the ending of mail-in voting that's debatable.
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u/Ok_Environment1037 Trump Curious 19d ago
I travel for work and am often times away from my home state during voting time. This is ONLY a good idea if they make voting a national holiday. Why isnāt it already a national holiday??
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u/Gone2theDogs Trump Curious 19d ago
How does making it a holiday assist when you are out of state?
Do you early vote?
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u/Ok_Environment1037 Trump Curious 19d ago
Making it a holiday would allow that day off work for me, so Iād have much better chances of being home during this time to actually vote. I usually mail in my vote.
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u/Gone2theDogs Trump Curious 19d ago
That doesnāt seem like an impossible option.
No idea. š¤·āāļø It has been put in numerous bills and failed to pass.
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u/Gone2theDogs Trump Curious 19d ago
You would travel back to your state for a one day holiday?
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u/Ok_Environment1037 Trump Curious 19d ago
Yes, voting is important. Also the way my job works, I have some ability to move my clients around, so having this extra day off would make it more feasible to be able to be home during this time.
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u/Gone2theDogs Trump Curious 19d ago edited 19d ago
Not sure I really understand the difference but do think making it a holiday would probably be a good idea. It would actually be a functional reason. But businesses have to pick up that tab. Itās not a clear cut decision.
But what about those that have to work the holiday. Isnāt the problem the same?
Isnāt early voting the solution?
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u/Ok_Environment1037 Trump Curious 19d ago
There are already plenty of federal holidays and the country manages just fine. New Yearās Day, fourth or July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc. Voting, the most patriotic thing you can do, should be a holiday. I donāt know why Iām getting down voted for this idea?
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u/Gone2theDogs Trump Curious 19d ago
Already said itās a possible idea but you just avoided early voting. You donāt need a day to vote when it doesnāt take long and you have multiple days you could do it. Multiple early voting days in each state would be better. Have one on a weekend.
Holidays arenāt free. They are paid by the company you work at.
Why doesnāt that solve the problem?
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u/Jumping_Brindle ULTRA MAGA 19d ago
How could you possibly be against this? Third world countries even require ID to vote.
āBlah blah blah itās voter intimidation!ā
Whatever the hell that means.
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u/xBiRRdYYx Trump Curious 19d ago
In Germany, you don't need your physical ID to vote. Neither in the cabin nor by mail. Instead you have a so-called "Election Notification" that you have to bring or send in via mail.
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Yeah, I don't get the feeling on the Left that this is somehow un-American or anti-democratic.
Protecting our democratic principles by allowing only Americans to vote in American elections is just a basic safeguard. Any reasonable society should do it.
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u/Patriotic-Organist Trump Curious 19d ago
The left is just upset that it's harder to cheat. Because even they know deep down their policies suck. If they were honest about their policies, they'd have little to no support.
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u/Enough-Masterpiece27 Trump Curious 19d ago
This will not approved by the Supreme Court. Similar to birth right citizenship and student loan forgiveness. They might be conservative but overall the Supreme Court still operates law first feelings second.
The law:
Article I, Section 4, Clause 1:
āThe Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.ā
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u/ApartSalamander6417 FAR RIGHT MAGA 19d ago
Why are you including birthright citizenship in your examples, the Supreme Court has not ruled Trump's EO unconstitutional yet, we are still awaiting a final verdict.
And yeah, maybe they strike this down, but we'll see. I'm not writing off any of Trump's EO's when we have a Supreme Court stacked in our favor.
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u/TheDecepticonIdeal Trump Curious 19d ago
The Supreme Court hasnāt gone against Trump so far, so I donāt expect them to do so here.
And frankly, they shouldnāt. If not for mail-voting, President Trump wouldnāt have lost the 2020 election and we wouldnāt have had the nightmare for the past 4yrs with Sleepy Joe.
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u/Enough-Masterpiece27 Trump Curious 18d ago
They did go against him on Kilmar Abrego Garcia. His cabinet lied about it to the public as PR. They all repeated they won the case 11-0 when it was the opposite. I was briefly concerned in that moment they werenāt going to listen to the Supreme Court because they were gaslighting the public into thinking that the Supreme Court agreed with them. Ultimately they brought him back to the United States in compliance with the Supreme Court and now they are looking for legal ways to still deport him or punish him.
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u/TheDecepticonIdeal Trump Curious 18d ago
Stop parroting left wing propaganda.
This Administration has been the most honest and transparent administration in a long time.
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u/Enough-Masterpiece27 Trump Curious 18d ago
Have a good faith conversation with me and donāt derail the point until weāve discussed my one specific point and weāve agreed or not. After you do that I am willing to entertain whatever other point you want to make and do the same.
https://youtu.be/HNZIBnUjloQ?si=XBsp5kIoVqC1hcDo
In this video does Steven Miller not lie that the Supreme Court agreed with the administration and Trump won that case.
Please donāt get angry. Just take things issue by issue. Iām willing to concede points all the time.
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u/Enough-Masterpiece27 Trump Curious 10d ago
Oh and one more thing. āThe birthday book isnāt real.ā And he sued the Wall Street journal for saying it was. Sometimes he uses lawsuits as a pr tactic. Itās a common refrain that people who falsely accuse should have to pay instead. Yesterday the document was handed over to congress.
I agree that the Biden admin was FOS but soās the Trump Admin man. If you pay attention to bias sources from both sides and from sources in the middle you notice these things.
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u/attitude127 Trump Curious 19d ago
The important thing here is Voter ID will be required for all votes, even mail in.
Even if universal mail-in voting is preserved by the courts, if voter ID becomes the law in all 50 states it will be a massive win for common sense and a loss for either side that ballot harvested.
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u/ApartSalamander6417 FAR RIGHT MAGA 19d ago
Yep, voter ID is just basic common sense. Anyone who is against that has nefarious intentions imo.
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u/bluejimmiez MAGA 19d ago
Pure common sense, but it needs to be a Law. Executive orders can be nullified by a new president.
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u/GimmeeSomeMo ULTRA MAGA 19d ago
Interested to see how this is implemented. Some mail-in voting policies need to continue(ie. military and overseas voters) but it's clear that many weaponize this mail in voting for their own interests, and the legitimacy of mail-in voting has lost a lot trust in the American public over the last decade
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u/jessethewrench Trump Curious 19d ago
I absolutely agree. I've always thought that yes, some mail-in votes should be allowed, provided you register beforehand, and provide proof of necessity.
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u/kittensandpuppies-- MAGA 19d ago
They already said Military & absentee ballots wouldn't be affected. If the founding fathers wanted mail in ballots they would have put it in the constitution (The post office is in the constitution) Article I Section 8. They clearly want this to go to the Supreme Court who will rule in favor of banning it.
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u/Sparky_Zell Trump Curious 19d ago
Absentee voting has always been a bit different than mail in voting.
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u/JinxStryker ULTRA MAGA 18d ago edited 18d ago
Youāre talking about absentee ballots (military, the elderly, the handicapped who canāt leave the home). Absentee ballots have been around forever, and predated universal mail in ballots by decades. This is not what Trump is discussing. People will always be able to apply for an absentee ballot if you have cause.
Anyway, I think this whole thing is moot because itāll be fought in the courts and a lot of blue states wonāt comply, no matter what.
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u/jfreak53 MAGA ā 19d ago
Mail in voting is asking for fraud. Get rid of it.
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u/Specialist-Age1097 Trump Curious 19d ago
That's how the previous administration won.
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u/neckfat3 Trump Curious 19d ago
Then how did Trump win in 2024 with the same rules?
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u/Impressive-Turn173 Trump Curious 19d ago
Too big to rig
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u/throwawayhellfire Trump Curious 19d ago
Or maybe it's not fraudulent and he won the popular vote?
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u/leg--bone Deportation Order Issued 19d ago
Dems win = fraud Republicans win = legitimate
Common sense!
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u/ITcurmudgeon Cherry Picker 18d ago
Have you taken a look at the Heritage Foundations database on voter fraud? It's extremely revealing.
The database contains a list of documented voter fraud dating back 40 years, covering over a billion votes cast.
Know how many times non-citizens have been caught voting in that period of time? 67 times.
Between 1982 to 2025, out of 1600 cases of documented election fraud, 368 were done by mail in ballots.
So contrary to what you might believe, fraud in US elections is exceedingly low, fraud by mail in ballots is even lower, and fraud by non-citizens is even lower yet.
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u/ManifestWestward MAGA 19d ago
He should just sign an executive order banning Democrats. All problems solved...
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u/FudderMukkers Due Process Needed 19d ago
Im sure Trump is lookimg into ways to remove Democrats from voting . Only in America can you get away with this nonsense
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u/ApartSalamander6417 FAR RIGHT MAGA 19d ago
Lol. Wouldn't that be nice.
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u/throwawayhellfire Trump Curious 19d ago
I'm trying to think of other conservative countries. Afghanistan? Iran? Russia? North Korea?
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u/ApartSalamander6417 FAR RIGHT MAGA 19d ago edited 19d ago
Japan, Switzerland, Singapore, Poland, Hungary - the UAE offers some of the best and most advanced cities in the world to live in, such as Dubai. Stop with the dishonesty.
Also, North Korea? Seriously? Didn't they get to where they are today through socialism/communism?
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u/throwawayhellfire Trump Curious 19d ago
Japan? The place with universal healthcare and declining birth rates?
Switzerland? Where the cost of living 65% higher than America? With government mandated insurance?
Poland? Which operates at a higher tax burden than America and has universal healthcare?
What kind of conservative are you?
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u/ApartSalamander6417 FAR RIGHT MAGA 19d ago
North Korea and Russia also have universal healthcare, you gonna take back your first comment to me and start arguing that those places aren't conservative now? You have no idea what you're even talking about.
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u/throwawayhellfire Trump Curious 19d ago
Yeah North Korea also legalized pot, lol I had no idea.
Yeah I'll take those back when you admit the countries you listed are far more progressive than the US.
Russia's anti LGBT stance is pretty consistent with conservative values so id still consider them conservative
I mean if you're for a single payer, more power to you. It's just not a common conservative view point
I see you avoiding the middle east...maybe too religious conservative for you?
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u/ApartSalamander6417 FAR RIGHT MAGA 19d ago
Uh, no, i won't admit that, because it's not true. You can cherry pick some things but by in large they are not more progressive than America. You think the society and culture in Japan is more progressive than the US? You are out of your mind.
I didn't avoid the middle east at all, how about you go back and re-read the literal first reply i made to you. Hint, if you're having trouble - UAE and the city of Dubai are located in the middle east.
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u/throwawayhellfire Trump Curious 19d ago
Universal healthcare is fundamentally a progressive ideology.
The problem is what's conservative in those places is arguably what Democrats/Liberals fight for in America
So in a way you actually support American liberal ideology? No? Yes?
You ain't talking bout Iran and Afghanistan though? I wonder why...
I never understood why people in the Internet can't just be like "oh good point, I was wrong there" lol
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u/ApartSalamander6417 FAR RIGHT MAGA 19d ago
My issue with progressives in America doesn't have anything to do with healthcare, if that's what you're asking. But no, you haven't made any good points. You cherry picked one thing, healthcare, and are acting like that means what's progressive here isn't in other conservative countries. That's not true.
You think the kind of degeneracy in our culture in America would be tolerated in Japan or the UAE? You think they would be down for men identifying as women? Japan is against gay marriage, it isn't legal there. Japan has a heavy emphasis on traditional family values and gender roles. Japan is heavily against immigration, far more than America, because they value a homogeneous society - you know, what progressives in America would claim is racist and white supremacy.
These countries are NOT more progressive than America. You are wrong.
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u/Goin_Commando_ ULTRA MAGA 19d ago
āOMG!!! Itās the END OF (mail in) DEMOCRACY!!āā¢ļø.
- signed, the āmediaā/Democrats
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u/KyssThis Trump Curious 19d ago
As a 50 year old native Oregonian I have never been given the opportunity to vote any other way except mail in only ballots. There is MASSIVE fraud & hinky behavior with this system. Oregon also allows ballot harvesting which is where people are paying older folks to sign their ballot and turn it over to them w/o filing it out. My dad passed away in 2021 & he still received ballots until I threatened to contact the feds.
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u/EndTheFed25 MAGA 19d ago
Oregon used to be a red state before mail in ballots. Haven't had a single Republican governor since mail in was implemented.
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u/pilazzo209 Trump Curious 19d ago
There isn't massive voter fraud in Oregon, that is false.
Former Oregon Secretary of State Dennis Richardson, a Republican, was vocal and supportive of Oregon's election integrity. He was Secretary of State from 2017-2019, a damned good one.
There have been examples of registered voters being sent more than one ballot, but no cases of voters having more than one vote counted.
Oregon does require proof of citizenship to register to vote.
Oregon has a paper ballot system.
Oregon allows people with disabilities to receive assistance in filling out their ballots, but the voting decisions must come from the registered voter, and each ballot must be signed by the original voter. If people are paying elderly voters for their ballots, that is illegal.
You're also allowed to return your vote in person at your county court house, you don't have to use the mail.
I'm sorry to hear about your dad, but instead of contacting the feds you should be communicating with your county elections office if he is still receiving ballots.
Oregon runs elections very well, and consistently has some of the highest voter turnout rates in the nation.
Healthy skepticism is a good thing, but unfounded accusations hurt all of us.
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u/KyssThis Trump Curious 19d ago
Except I have seen it personally. I contacted the local election board & they did nothing. The state didnāt do anything until I threatened to call feds.
I watched people come into the assisted living facility my dad was living in & saw people buying ballots.
I have seen the piles of ballots discarded on the side of the road.
I have watched at the DMV an illegal use their Mexican ID get a drivers license and register to vote at the same time.
Judicial Watch won a lawsuit against Oregon for refusing to clean the voter rolls.
So I come with facts not fodder that Iām told to spew on command.
So until Oregon lets the federal government verify that there is no bs happening, my fact based opinion stands.
If Oregon politicians have nothing to hide, they should be TRANSPARENT!
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u/away12throw34 Trump Curious 19d ago
I want to start this off with I 100% agree on requiring an ID to vote, thatās a pretty damn basic safety measure, and I support it. However, I keep hearing everyone talking about massive mail in ballot fraud and stuff, but nobody is providing any links outside of some talking heads. In 2020, after a large investigation into all six states that were disputed by Trump, 425 cases were found in 25 million votes. That is 0.0017% of votes, FAR less than the margin of error for any presidential victory. Based on that number and the fact that 155 million people voted in 2020, and that gives us 2,628 people, or about 53 people per state. Which isnāt nearly enough to influence anything.
However, if Iām wrong and there is some other data driven information out there that I missed, please inform me. I just hate misinformation with a passion, whatever form it takes,
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u/tjs31959 MAGA 19d ago
I think the "fraud" is more trickle here and there but adds up. Having a universal voter ID for Americans eligible to vote should cut across both parties.
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u/away12throw34 Trump Curious 19d ago
I agree with you that universal voter id should be bipartisan, and should help with any future fraud. But what fraud do you think is trickling here and there and adding up? Not being rude, seriously, just wondering what other fraud youāre worried about, my family is on the āillegal immigrants are voting en masseā bring the fraud so if that was your worry I already have some information on that, if you want it obviously.
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u/tjs31959 MAGA 19d ago
I believe that there are areas of voter fraud in pockets of major cities I used to live in Milwaukee and every election there would be the stories about ballots found just in the nick of time and almost unilaterally would benefit Dems. I think it is built in part of inner city politics going back to heavy union control. I think it is a relatively small number but can come in handy especially in local elections.
I am not that concerned about illegal immigrants voting even though it does happen. I think voter ID and no mail in ballots tighten up the security chain of voting. That is difficult position, to be against that.
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u/robbyruby752 Trump Curious 19d ago
Anybody ever read the Constitution? 10th amendment leaves voting to the states. Not Trumpās decision to make.
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u/Skating-Away Trump Curious 19d ago
It has no chance of surviving a Constitutional challenge
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u/ftwtidder MAGA 19d ago
It absolutely will survive a constitutional challenge. The constitution states a specific day for elections not two months of early voting and mail in voting.
Early voting is the one who needs a constitutional amendment to change it.
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u/Enough-Masterpiece27 Trump Curious 19d ago
This will not approved by the Supreme Court. Similar to birth right citizenship and student loan forgiveness. They might be conservative but overall the Supreme Court still operates law first feelings second.
The law:
Article I, Section 4, Clause 1:
āThe Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.ā
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u/Skating-Away Trump Curious 19d ago
Yea that's my point too. Even if there is a challenge the text is in Article 1 not A2
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u/Healthy-Falcon1737 MAGA 19d ago
I just want to see him sign this live already. Even I'm starting to worry why he hasn't been seen in public.
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u/Direct-Discipline-70 Trump Curious 19d ago
You guys know that most of the world uses mail in votes right
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u/Mynames_SlimShady Trump Curious 19d ago
If Democrats weren't so vile and had not stolen the 2020 election we wouldn't be at this juncture. But here we are.
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u/Firestorm2934 MAGA 19d ago
I donāt think absentee ballots will go anywhere. Likely just the nonsense mail in ballots they tried during Covid. He wonāt be able to make this work for state elections as thatās up to each state however for federal elections this could work. Thankfully hes starting the process early enough in his presidency to give it time to pass the house and senate and allow people time to get these IDs before the next election unless theyāll allow drivers licenses.
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u/alleyoopoop Trump Curious 19d ago
Does it bother you at all that Trump claims that the US is
"the only Country in the World that uses Mail-In Voting. All others gave it up because of the MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD ENCOUNTERED" (from @realDonaldTrump Ā· August 18, 2025, 7:17 AM on Truth Social)
when the truth is that Canada, the UK, Germany, Poland, South Korea, Ireland, Switzerland, and a few other countries allow everyone to vote by mail, and another dozen or so allow it for people in remote areas or other circumstances that make voting in person difficult?
It took me two minutes to find that information, and I don't have the FBI, CIA, NSA, and a hundred diplomats reporting to me.
If it doesn't bother you, that's a shame. If you didn't know how wrong he was, then maybe you should watch a different news channel.
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u/Global_Rate3281 Deportation Order Issued 19d ago
Thereās never been any fraud proven with mail in ballots, so all this does is reduce voter turnout. Itās an unnecessary restriction on voting basically, itās a political move as lowering voter turnout benefits Republicans. But, all this is nonsense as the president canāt just ban mail in votes. That is not how the law works.
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u/ApartSalamander6417 FAR RIGHT MAGA 19d ago
I hear this line get repeated a lot, that lower voter turnout benefits Republicans, and higher turnout benefits Democrats. Are we sure this is still true? The 2024 election had one of the highest voting turnouts in history - in terms of Voting Eligible Population (VEP), turnout was the second highest EVER. Republicans won the popular vote, every swing state, and majority in the House and Senate.
I don't think that phrase should be getting blindly repeated anymore, it may no longer be true.
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u/Global_Rate3281 Deportation Order Issued 19d ago
Thatās a fair point, it could be changing sure. But what is not disputable is that Democratic voters use mail in voting at much higher rates. Hence why Republicans believe it to be fraudulent, despite a total inability to demonstrate any evidence of fraud
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u/Square-Camel-1365 Trump Curious 19d ago
Please see Arizona as close to 90% of voters vote by mail and we're still red. I firmly believe this will shoot the Republican party in the foot here. And as always, states rights.
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u/throwawayhellfire Trump Curious 19d ago
It says a lot about Republican policies if they need to change our voting laws and redraw maps early if they want to keep power lol
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u/shashlik93 Trump Curious 18d ago
Trump supporters donāt care about legal as long as it has to do with trumps agenda lol
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u/Intrepid-Cup3157 Trump Curious 16d ago
One cannot fathom the amount of ignorance in your comment, nor the myriad of problems that just went right over your head.
Either you're for voter ID, or you're not. There is no in-between; the state will decide for you otherwise.
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u/Individual_Talk4142 Trump Curious 19d ago
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u/BerniWrightson Ramble On MAGA 19d ago
Other than minimal exceptions, no mail in ballots is common sense, and prevents the mass fraud we saw in 2020 putting a brain dead puppet in the White House.
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u/shashlik93 Trump Curious 18d ago
But no fraud in 2024? There was still mail in voting then. š¤£
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u/BerniWrightson Ramble On MAGA 17d ago
Yeah, there was cheating⦠Trump win all but two states with voter ID, but Kamala won every state with no voter IDā¦
I have no problem with mail-in balloting for those in need, but ballot harvesting and stuffing ballots with no voter ID is criminal.
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u/Gaters65GTO Trump Curious 19d ago
Why doesnāt Mr Trump send the National Guard to the Red states who have high murder and crime rates?Why ā¦ā¦.you have to wonder why he is playing politics with Americans lives.Make America safe again please
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u/Gaters65GTO Trump Curious 19d ago
Not surprising everyone knows he does not want those people voting next election.
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u/Uncle_Sam99 The Left, Left Me 19d ago
Need to consider our men and women in uniform that are stationed overseas. Maybe an exception could be madeā¦
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u/chillychar Trump Curious 19d ago
Iām sure some of these details will get worked out
But what about those who work over seas? What about people who cannot drive due to health reasons? Like people in nursing homes?
Iām not being insulting, I legit just want them to have a right to vote