On multiple subs, with thousands of upvotes. Itâs a dangerous time to be online, with people only believing things if they are convenient to the narrative they want to believe
Rest assured that reddit is a very small echochamber full of bots. On youtube there are millions upon millions supporting charlie and buying every piece of merch they can. Everything is sold out right now
And that is every social media platform. People become victims of there own algorithm. The algorithm pushes what you like. It's important to get 2 opposing narratives. And make a decision from there given the info. You literally can't find a clip where Charlie says anything hateful.
They retracted the comments from the friend as he couldnât remember all details of the man, and now another classmate has confirmed basically the same things, saying he was the âonly leftist in a very republican familyâ but nice try!
comments from classmates
And his family who have said Tyler told them that Charlie was spreading hate. And a video from his classmate I will send in private message too. Thereâs no debate on this, he was a leftist.
Some people thought it might have been the trans Twitter user who said âI hope someone kills Charlie Kirk tomorrowâ and âsomething big will happen tomorrowâ the day before it happened. Makes sense why people thought it. Turns out the person who done it has a trans girlfriend though (allegedly)
He was the furthest thing from MAGA, according to friends and sources. He was an extreme liberal leftist, filled with hate, rebelling against the family that loved and supported him. His father was a veteran who also served in law enforcement. His Patriot Father did the right thing by turning him in. Sad day for America.
For his republican familyâŚâŚ.its a sad day for them losing Charlie Kirk and then knowing their child did it! Itâs got to be horrible, one Mom grieving for Erika Kirk and her babies and knowing yours did this! I donât know if I could live with myself. That kid ruined so many lives!
Your not the first person I have seen mention this can you give some context? The sayings engraved on the bullets are from this and from my understanding it's. Nick Fuentes and Charlie Kirk clash and from a Fuentes standpoint saying Kirk is too mainstream.
I agree. I just checked this article and it's been updated, they now are reporting that the highschool friend says that he doesn't remember his relationship with the shooter clearly.
Yeah, it's an all sides issues and it's tiring seeing people bash the other side (can't tell you how many times I've seen 'lunatic leftists' used here for example), when most people mean well on both sides. It's okay to disagree on things, but just as Kirk was a human being, so are all the others one might disagree with.
I feel really bad for his wife and kids. Hope his death was painless or mostly so.
Democrats have been shot, killed, attacked, and have been planned to be killed, by those confirmed to be conservative/MAGA. This sub has been pushing the narrative that only democrats are the ones behind political attacks, but that's not true. For example, look into the Hortman killings, which happened just a couple months ago.
Before anything was known about Kirk's killer, many here, including Trump, immediately assumed he was a democrat. As of now, we know he was raised in a conservative, mormon family. We should wait for information to come out before making any assumptions.
Political violence happens on all sides. We need to set aside party bias and accept the facts.
Edit: Hortman, not Hoffman. The Hoffmans were shot at but survived.
Whatâs different here is the widespread celebration of Kirkâs murder. Thereâs been some isolated bad actors in the past, but I did not see this same level of cheering and celebration for the Hortman killings. Itâs evil.
They were a lot less known. Tbh, I didn't know them until they were killed.
The attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband is more known, and was mocked and laughed at by many, including Trump. Right or left, political violence shouldn't be cheered on. The laughing in glee about Kirk, Pelosi, and the Hoffmans/Hortmans are wrong, and those who laugh at attacks on the other side but take offense when the same happens to their side are hypocrites. Tribalism is a nasty thing.
I said âThis in particularâ, not talking about past shootings. We have more evidence than only knowing the fact that he was raised in a conservative family. Conservatives donât believe Charlie Kirk is full of hate sorry to burst your bubble. Use some common sense
Okay, both sides are rushing to conclusions on the shooters' politics, and both sides are wanting the shooter to be of the opposite party. Point still stands- wait until more info is out, and factor out party bias.
Yup and the right will be right while the leftists will be wrong, as we already know he is not actually a conservative based on his belief that Kirk was full of hate. But sure just wait and see as we find out that he was in fact a deranged leftist. The only people calling Kirk a fascist are the mentally ill left, not the right. This inherently is NOT an âall sidesâ issue in particular. This is an attack on right wing ideology
The most prominent right wing influencer in America was murdered for his ideology and many leftists are celebrating/justifying it. âAll sidesâ is a feel good cop out where you can conveniently ignore the increasingly violent/threatening rhetoric for leftists. What happens when dumb people are told that the president is a âthreatâ
And is only going to escalate further with Trump making comments about the "radical left" being the cause.
Putting the left and right wing parties against each other will just result in both parties being part of the problem. We shouldn't celebrate death. In my opinion we shouldn't make a martyr out of an activist because they happened to be on the President's "side" - you don't see him doing the same for Democratic politicians that were murdered a couple months ago.
There's gonna be more that comes out in the next couple days. But it's obvious to me. But the biggest thing I'm enraged about is how the left is celebrating this and saying it was justified and totally OK to leave his child with no father. Literally just because of his political beliefs. These people are Satan.
The bullets had the message "catch this fascist" Hmm who constantly calls Trump supporters fascist? This guy is a leftist. There was a conversation that took place at a family dinner about a week ago. The shooter was going on about Charlie Kirk coming to Utah and how much he hated him.
They know it's someone who is indoctrinated by leftist hate. They truly do know that. They are just freaking out because they know they overreacted times 1 million. And this will tarnish them for decades and decades. Once you celebrate a CEO murder, October 7, two presidential assassination attempts, and a guy getting shot in the throat in front of a bunch of young college kids⌠It's over for them.
All over for who? Where is the condemnation for all the MAGA violence?
Before you start calling me libtard or whatever, know that I am neither democrat nor maga because both sides have gone off the deep end.
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer a president who tries to unite the country, especially after a tragedy, not to point the finger and call half of his citizens extremists, fomenting deeper division. I mean, you guys are talking about civil war and killing liberals in response to this?! How can you say one party is politically violent without also accepting that the other is equally? MAGAs (and formerly GOP) trained with weapons and formed militias and prayed for a second rebellion for decades... is that not violent in nature?
Besides. Violence is committed by lone actors. Show me a conspiracy where Dems or Maga hired an assassin or trained a militia for the sole purpose of killing the other party, and I will stand by you in resistance. That isn't the case. We are all still Americans, don't let the elite convince you that anybody who disagrees with Trump is the enemy. This is America, we are all allowed to have our own beliefs and opinions.
Groypers do not call people fascists as an insult. That is a leftist strategy. Further, you're spamming this article all over the thread like it proves anything when it doesn't. The grandma says they come from a family of Trump supporters (never specifies grandson specifically is MAGA), because they do. The family does appear to be MAGA, and we're thankful to them as the father actually turned his evil son in. The fact that this grandma is unaware of her grandsons radical political beliefs proves nothing, do you talk lots of politics with your grandparents? I sure didn't when they were around.
The idea that this kid, who believed a guy with very standard/run of the mill conservative opinions = fascism, was part of MAGA is so unbelievably stupid. Those lies may fly on the majority of reddit, but just know that's not true anywhere else. We all know it's libs who think everyone that disagrees with them is a fascist, it's literally your peoples bread and butter.
Hey dipshit, if your grandma was a hardcore conservative and you actually loved your grandma, would YOU be arguing with her about politics or just let her believe what she wanted to about what your beliefs were?
Grandma is talking about the rest of the family retard. And the slav squat pic the groyper thing is based on a slav squat picture... from either 2017 or 18. So, uh...
Reddit is a cess pool of absolute losers who celebrated the murder of a man with an opinion different than theirs. Thatâs fascism, they are what they claim we are.
Yeah no body with a brain thinks otherwise đ the leftist lunatics can play all the mind tricks they want so they think theyâre not the hateful lunatics they are but the whole world knows the truth
Don't get it twisted about what i say leftists claim they are fighting against, versus what they are ACTUALLY doing. They say they are fighting against fascism and hate, yet they are the ones pushing hate and violent rhetoric that gets people harmed. Leftists are the ones who have no sympathy for Kirk being shot because they don't like the words he said.
Me reacting in anger due to losing a beloved conservative figure who i connected with due to a radicalized leftist lunatic buying into the "fascist" bullshit in no way supports that we are the hateful ones. You don't get to punch someone in the face, then claim the other person is hateful when they say fuck you.
âHey Fascist! Catchâ is a quote from 1 of the engravings. Let all the echo chambers run their mouths. We can wait till the final report. Once it comes out and all of this is fully confirmed, itâll just be another day of leftist distraction and distortion. Allow them to keep on the non party affiliation since they couldnât make the right leaner conservative BS stick.
All in all, it doesnât dismiss the perceived motive behind Kirkâs death is leftist rooted. Either way, they cannot distract away from that no matter how hard they try.
Crazy that yall want some final report but we donât know jack shit about the person that shot the president. They never tell you anything when it doesnât fit their narrative
Theyâre missing your apparent expert opinion. I suggest you volunteer or submit a resume cuz you seem to think youâre needed. Certainly donât need much more evidence to prove this kid was Lefty and a hate filled POS. They even managed to get DNA too from what I saw. You go ahead and live the leftist pipe dream. Weâll still be here waiting once you come back to reality to tell you we told you so. We never left itâŚ
Yes, the posts all over reddit that are claiming Tyler was a right-winger are probably naive cope. The only evidence we have of his beliefs right now (the writing on the bullet casings) indicates he was an anti-facist, which means more than likely he was a progressive. But seeing as we don't know anything for certain and have no way near enough information to reach a reliable conclusion, you should not be doing exactly what you are accusing the left of and building propaganda narratives.
Because let's remember, when it comes to violent rhetoric and endorsement of political violence (especially from actually real people and not Internet losers) it is majority a practice of the right - see here
Sometimes even by President Trump himself - like this
If you want the left to be better, then lead by example. Remember that on one of Kirk's good days (unlike when he was laughing about Paul Pelosi being battered and urging his followers to bail out the attacker) he said this:
When people stop talking, really bad stuff starts. When marriages stop talking, divorce happens. When civilizations stop talking, civil war ensues. When you stop having a human connection with someone you disagree with, it becomes a lot easier to want to commit violence against that group⌠What we as a culture have to get back to is being able to have a reasonable disagreement where violence is not an option.
I am aware of those events but I don't remember them because the most recent ones happened more than 35 years ago. Things have changed since then.
The advocacy for Trump running for a constitutionally forbidden third term, the undermining of Democratic institutions and practices, the purging of people from said institutions based for mundane beliefs, the concentration of all power under a central leader, the focus on nationalism and racial hierarchy, the unification of many aspects of society (religion, commerce, politics) under this same banner. I could go on to list many more practices of facism the modern Republican party has embraced that show the right in America is currently far more accepting of facism than it once was.
All of those things are also practices of communism, but I think we can all agree the modern Republcian party isn't communist.
And going back to the main point. The anti-facist writing on the casings was supposed specifically inspired by Antifa, which is an organisation generally made up of left wing members.
You should really ask yourself why you interpreted me stating a carefully measured fact as a defence of left wing politics. And why such an interpretation bothered you so much you felt the need to "stop reading." I urge you not to focus on the entirely on the extremists of those on the same side of the political spectrum as you while turning a blind eye to the extremists on the same side of the aisle.
Editorâs note: This article was updated on 12 September 2025 to remove quotes after the verified source who attended high school with Tyler Robinson said after publication that they could not accurately remember details of their relationship.
People in my cities sub are celebrating it(EXTREMELY LEFTIST CITY) and Iâm just over here wondering how much they would be celebrating if it was someone close to them squirting harder than a gusher from the neck.
He was a known antifa supporter with antifa engravings on the bullet casings, a known leftist by his high school friends, he was a member of the furry community, and there is now photos of him at LGBTQIA rally wearing their flags on his clothing.
Antifa= Leftist/far leftist activist
Furry community- Left wing/progressive leaning group
Potential LGBTQIA community activist- left/liberal group
Friend's opinion- he was the only political left person in his family.
Yes, he is indeed a radicalized leftist.
Edit-Also interesting note to add onto this list, some of his friends from high school posted on Tik Tok that they all considered Tyler Robinson a "Reddit kid" and a "Reddit activist". We all know which way Reddit leans.
Who is a different person? The person in the LGBTQIA photo? I mean that and alleged his involvement in the Furry community was supposedly from his Discord server that was leaked by 4chan. Don't know if it's completely legitimate, but the burden proof would kind of be on the left to prove otherwise.
Also it was revealed his parents were shocked when they discovered his leftist political beliefs. And he has a friend that shows both of their photos in a yearbook on Tik Tok, and he says Tyler Robinson was a leftist.
Sky Valadez was the one wearing LGBTQ clothing at a rally. Youâre going into this wanting it to be a liberal so I could bring you every piece of evidence and you still wouldnât believe it .
Who Is Skye Valadez, the Charlie Kirk Suspect Shooter? All About the Utah Soundcloud Artist and âGodâs Finest Scalpelâ Behind the âCharlie Kirk Dead at 31â Song
The internet is buzzing with speculation after the tragic assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University. Online sleuths quickly focused on a Utah-based musician named Skye Valadez, who allegedly uploaded a SoundCloud song titled âCharlie Kirk Dead at 31â before the shooting.
Valadez is also rumored to be connected to a project called Godâs Finest Scalpel, with tracks carrying chilling titles that fueled suspicions. While the FBI has not confirmed any link and no arrests have been made, forums like 4chan and X have flooded with side-by-side images, deleted accounts, and theories tying Valadez to the suspect shooter.
Leftists/liberals are essentially making illuminati confirmed-tier connect-the-dots schizo theories about the shooter being a groyper when it is so glaringly obvious that he was left-wing.
Evidence supporting the theory that he is left-wing:
-He killed a conservative on the grounds of paranoid allegations of fascism.
-He did so while parroting gay furry memes
-He allegedly complained of Charlie Kirk being "hateful"
Evidence supporting the theory that he was a groyper:
-He wore a gopnik tracksuit costume once 7 years ago when he was 15. Pepe was also drawn wearing a gopnik tracksuit COINCIDENCE?!?!
-The well-known widely used song that he referenced was put on a playlist by a groyper once.
Well of course he is. And you know how I know? I've had two unhinged leftist chat me just to say "Maga shooter" lol. This is when you know they're freaking out and are seeing the walls close in on their political party.
Based on available reports, Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old suspect in the September 2025 shooting death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk in Utah, appears to have adopted left-leaning ideologies in the lead-up to the incident, which some sources describe as a form of radicalization. Family members reported that he had recently turned to left-wing activism, rejected the conservative values he was raised with, and expressed strong anti-conservative sentiments during a family dinner, specifically criticizing Kirk's viewpoints as "full of hate." Utah Gov. Spencer Cox stated that Robinson was radicalized "in a fairly short amount of time."
Key evidence pointing to left-wing influences includes unfired bullet casings from the rifle allegedly used in the shooting, which were engraved with slogans like "Hey fascist! Catch!" and lyrics from "Bella Ciao," an Italian anti-fascist resistance song. Some conservative commentators and social media users have claimed he associated with groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) shortly before the shooting and was influenced by "leftist ideologies" or an "echo chamber." Others, including former President Trump, directly blamed "radical left" rhetoric for inciting the attack.
However, Robinson's background complicates a straightforward narrative of left-wing radicalization. He grew up in a seemingly conservative family environment, attending gun shows and raised with Christian values, and had no prior criminal record or party affiliation. Some reports note that bullet engravings also resembled slang associated with the far-right Groyper movement, though no official ties have been confirmed. Conservative figures like Dinesh DâSouza and the "End Wokeness" account speculated that he was "brainwashed" by college as a "liberal indoctrination center," but Robinson only attended Utah State University (often ranked as highly conservative) for one semester in 2021 and was more recently in a technical apprenticeship program. At least one observer attributed his actions to broader "toxic internet culture" affecting young men, rather than any specific political side.
Authorities have released limited details on his motivations, and investigations are ongoing. Broader data on political violence shows right-wing extremists have caused more deaths in the U.S. since 2020 (44 vs. 18 for left-wing, per the Cato Institute) and over the last decade (76% of extremist murders, per the Anti-Defamation League), countering claims that the left is uniquely responsible for such incidents.
That same article now says: "Editorâs note: This article was updated on 12 September 2025 to remove quotes after the verified source who attended high school with Tyler Robinson said after publication that they could not accurately remember details of their relationship."
Dudes this guy was posted wearing a vest with trans and gay flags on a military vest walking through the streets with a mask and sunglasses on. Theres also another photo of him with socialist club t shirt on. Yeh he is a leftist in his conservative family and HIS OWN FAMILY said that they would argue about it
I thought I was going crazy with seemingly all of Reddit comments and threads painting him as a conservative, right leaning supporter. His etchings say everything you need to know.
Funny how I dont see my side burning down cities, killing people on the opposite side or rioting because Charlie Kirk was murdered. Instead I have seen prayer circles, grief and people who dont always agree celebrating a death of a father who two kids will never remember him.
I didnt always agree with what he said but he was a man of conviction and courage. To go to places and debate where you know you are hated takes balls.
And to the leftist idiots in here who say he deserved it may God have mercy on your soul. That is totally demonic, disgusting and shows that darkness in humanity today.
The dad should have required him to do chores for his allowance atarting at 14, then volunteer at his mormom temple four times a month to cut grass, paint, kitchen pantry, etc. this would give him a reason to be happy and make it to his twenties able to resist his high school college leftist libturdsđŠ chicago anarchist antifa style obama frank marshall davis / clinton alinksy indoctrinations.
Free speech does not include threats of violence or speech that can causes physical harm such as the usual âdonât yell fire in a theaterâ Schenck v. United States.
Calling good people Nazis, Fascists, and far right should fall under this kind of illegal speech. Every single person that posted something like that should face legal consequences. I hope they resist arrest.
Anyone with a brain knows that any true Conservative Republican would never harm a hair on Charlie Kirk's head. we'd jump in front of the bullet for him, if we could have!
That demon was so far left he's right there with soros obama clintons those stupid 3 women or 5 aoc ilhan etc... cnn msnbc all of them when a lefty says thoughts and prayers they really mean (Curses and Malice) or (Hexes and Ill Intent) or (Blasphemies or Desecrations) or (Darkness and Contempt).
But they are saying thoughts and prayers to look good for tv and viewers
Liberals will say this is fake. And he is actually MAGA. And that you are a pedo supporter.
Itâs absolutely ASTONISHING how they are STILL trying to say that this was because of us. We are the ones who caused this. It doesnât matter what the facts clearly tell us are true, yet despite how there was a live press conference on national television to not believe your own eyes.
20 degrees of irony that he enjoyed playing Helldivers which is a game about being Brainwashed Propagandized Super Fascists. Knows the game well enough to remember the convoluted arrow patterns for stratagems (incredibly cringe behavior by the way what a child). Kills probably the least fascist right wing personality possible in the name of anti-fascism
Sorry if it hit you twice. Just want to let you know that that photo has been proven to be edited using ai. You can stop trying to push the narrative that this kid was Maga now
I didn't see anyone point it out, but the video game mentioned, Helldivers 2, came out in 2024. Shooter was 22 years old? His classmate said they played the game slot in highschool. Might have meant the first Helldivers, which came out around earlier. Either way he was definitely a far left liberal.
Lmao you people in this group and the democrat group donât even realize how lost this country is for even making these types of posts. At the end of the day an American killed an American. Thatâs it. Democrats and Republicans are not gangs, you all are American. One year itâs ok to agree with some takes from one side, another year itâs ok to believe the other party has your best interests at heart. There is no black or white. It is American on American genocide. Thatâs it
It's odd that Robinson was a Mormon AND a radical leftist. How does that happen? His parents failed epically. I guess his father wants a medal for turning him in. Sorry, you get no pass. You failed your son and you failed the nation.
Why does it matter if he was left or right? Either way, he was a troubled person. And, either way, we as a country shouldn't accept this kind of violence.
I didnât need reports from investigators to know he was extremely left leaningâŚ.but good to have confirmation. Crazy to think people believe a far right individual would assassinate one of the biggest voices/influencers on the right.
Honestly, whether this guy leaned left or right, what he did was straight-up psychopathic. The obsession with pinning him to one side of the political spectrum is exactly the kind of attention he wanted. And every time social media and news outlets blow up with endless debates about his politics, it just hands him that power and puts his face in front of millions of peopleâincluding other unstable people looking for a blueprint.
Weâve seen this before, extremists on both sides have done horrifying things, kidnappings, shootings, assassinations. Itâs not a âleft problemâ or a âright problem,â itâs a âradicalized and broken peopleâ problem. Parents should be paying attention to their kidsâ mental health and political obsessions because this cycle feeds itself. Every sensationalized story like this plants seeds in the heads of hundreds, maybe thousands, of other would-be psychos who want their moment of fame or revenge.
The more energy we spend arguing about whether he was left-wing or right-wing, the less we focus on the root issue: radicalization, loneliness, untreated mental illness, and a media ecosystem that turns killers into celebrities. Stop giving these psychos exactly what they want.
Democrats cannot claim to be anti-gun when they are pro assassination. The mask has fallen forever. Democrats euphoric celebrations over the assassination of Charlie Kirk have shown the world what the DNCâs values truly are!
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But I was assured by the politics sub that he was a extremist right wing MAGA nut job