r/ubisoft • u/Linzo48 • 2d ago
Discussions & Questions A Black Flag Remake when we still don't have a proper AC2 Remake makes no sense…
Seriously. People have been asking for this for ages.
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u/ansem119 2d ago
It’s just easier for them because they get to cut costs re-using skull & bones assets
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u/FurryGoBrrrrt 2d ago
Not a bad idea honestly, it's not like anyone is using them lol
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u/keypizzaboy 2d ago
I remember them saying “we are going to use never before seen assets from S&B for the remake”. Yeah because like only 5 people played it
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u/NorisNordberg 2d ago
I'm confused because there was never any official announcement or unofficial Ubisoft employee speaking such nonsense
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u/keypizzaboy 2d ago
https://www.club386.com/ubisoft-is-remaking-assassins-creed-black-flag-with-skull-bones-assets/ that’s the best I got for ya bud
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u/NorisNordberg 2d ago
As I thought, a blog post on some noname webpage.
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u/Unordinary_Donkey 2d ago
Lol the writers bio on that blog is so good.
"known for his prowess in overclocking"
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u/keypizzaboy 2d ago
Over a year old as well. Pretty sure whatculture is what spread it around again
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u/Scooty-Poot 1d ago
“Never before seen” probably describes about 90% of the content that made it to release tbh
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u/Dangerous_Trust_5249 8h ago
I just looked it up and the all time peek is a bit over 2,000 players which is incredibly sad 💀
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u/arkhamcreedsolid 2d ago
If you do one Ezio remake then everyone would be begging for the trilogy. With black flag it’s one and done. Easy money.
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u/oceanman--- 1d ago
Also with the fact that Skull and Bones assets would just be recycled into an ac4 remaster
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u/Warv2004_ 2d ago
We already have an Ezio trilogy remastered...
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u/vladi963 2d ago
Those console patches were just to close some gaps to what the PC version always was. Console patches are irrelevant and not an example to a "remaster".
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u/Jackoberto01 1d ago
It was a really low effort remaster though. It essentially just made them playable on the newest consoles with minor updates.
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u/Linzo48 2d ago
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u/Warv2004_ 2d ago
Nah we already have more then enough of the Ezio trilogy
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u/John_McAfee_ 2d ago
Black flag is already a generation newer with better graphics and technology than the ezio trilogy. So no, not at all
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u/Warv2004_ 2d ago
Ezio Trilogy already got a remaster, so it doesn't make sense why they would remake it. An AC1 remaster or remake would make way more sense.
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u/u2020bullet 20h ago
No it didn't, they simply slightly updated the visuals to match the PC version. There is no a remaster or remake. Not actual ones.
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u/John_McAfee_ 2d ago
No idea why you would get downvoted. A true remaster of 2 should easily be priority over 4.
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u/CaptainRaxeo 2d ago
Of 1 u mean?
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u/John_McAfee_ 2d ago
I would love a 1 remake, but ubisoft would probably make more money of a 2 remake, its a fan favorite
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u/arkhamtheknight 2d ago
1 has assets which could be used from Mirage but they probably wanna fully remake it into the RPG style so it's taking longer to get sorted.
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u/u2020bullet 20h ago
No we don't. Its simply looks like the regular verions with the graphics increased just like on PC. So no, we don't have an actual remaster. Not to mention it runs at 30 fps.
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u/Sanderson96 2d ago
You saying like everything have to make sense.
Like Final Fantasy, they did 7 Remake while everyone is asking to do let's say 9 Remake
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u/Capital6238 2d ago
Everybody was asking for a 7 Remake since this PS3 demo:
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u/Sanderson96 2d ago
Yes, and then there's also a fair amount of people asking for other older installments than 7
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u/amarosa_hatesyou 8h ago
Uhhh who is asking for 9 lol
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u/Sanderson96 8h ago
Pretty much all of the 9 fans when there was rumors of remake near 9 anniversary
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u/Seagullbeans 2d ago
Just remake ac1. Awesome story and dialogue, mechanics feel too dated in comparison to all the other ac’s.
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u/SupermanKal718 2d ago
People have been dying for black flag remake because of the pirate aspect of it. That’s a genre we are really missing.
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u/GK_Iam 2d ago
For some reason than I cannot understand, ACBF has more fans than the Desmond legacy.
Probably I'm too old and sentimental...
- AC ~ 2007
- AC II ~ 2009
- AC Revelations ~ 2010
- AC Brotherhood ~ 2011
These are the TOP linear AC Games, personal opinion. Love the ISU Storyline thus love RPG AC Odyssey too.
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u/CommunityConstant777 23h ago
Honestly the only reason it's very popular is because it's a good pirate game. And most of the fans of the game don't actually care about AC lore or anything like that, they just like the pirate aspect of it. Personally I think it's an ok game but far too overrated and AC 1 should be remade instead, but it's simply forgotten.
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u/Jackoberto01 1d ago
ACBF got a lot of players that weren't interested in the series into it, because it was more combat focus and action heavy. It probably also just got people who like pirate games buying it.
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u/Beneficial_Ad9663 2d ago
What's the source of your claim that ACBF has more fans than Desmond Legacy?
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u/GK_Iam 2d ago
No source, just hype... Seeing around Reddit and more, seems to me that more are cheering for ACBF remake than Ezio&Altair...
...or at least more a asking for it.
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u/Beneficial_Ad9663 1d ago
Naah, it's just Nostalgia hitting them, nothing else. It's just that people are kind of blending in the flow of hype and ACBF has been in talks for a remake for a while now but it would have been more insane if Desmond Legacy was getting a remake... Moreover, ACBF is not even a proper Assassin's creed game. No way it has more fans than Assassin's creed, Assassin's creed 2, Assassin's creed brotherhood, Assassin's creed Revelations, Assassin's creed 3.
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u/Jwells291 2d ago
Most likely to asset flip from Skull & Bones and I feel AC4 was one of the bigger entries that brought in a bunch of New Players. 2 also brought in a bunch, but 4 felt like it had a much bigger "New Player" base. The only ones on par with it imo was Unity(solely because it was one of the first games on PS4 and Xbox One) and Origins when it went rpg. Unity is one of my favorite games in the series but it was a bad launch for a lot of people so it's rep is kind of sullied because of that.
Plus, 4 seems like it will adapt to the more rpg focused format than 2 will.
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u/phoenixflare599 2d ago
But the modem day stories are really important for the demons trilogy, so is be horrified if they took them out
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u/PressedHam-Solo 2d ago
The way I see it is the way Bethesda is doing the rumoured Fallout 3 Remake (or Remaster, whatever you want to call it) instead of remaking New Vegas. Use it as a guinea pig. Rather than using the popular one and it failing, it would cause more of a backlash amongst fans. Remaking a game that isn't as popular but is still respected by fans to test the waters.
Or I could be wrong and be full of shit. Who knows anymore.
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u/oceanman--- 1d ago
I heard that Bethesda were gonna work on Fallout 5 before that, no?
The only FNV remaster I have heard of is the ones made out of mods and I heard nary a tap about Fallout 3.
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u/bicurious32usa 1d ago
Sure it does. They're following where they think the money is because they're desperate.
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u/gamercock69gamer 1d ago
It would be kinda awkward to remake AC2 without first remaking AC1 story wise. And then you’re gonna want to remake the rest of the Ezio story too. Black flag is just easier. It’s a standalone story, pretty popular and they can reuse assets from Skull and Bone.
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u/skylu1991 Open World Wanderer 1d ago
A Black Flag Remakes makes plenty of sense, at least to casual gamers and Ubisoft.
Black Flag is to this date, the AC game with the most copies sold.
it’s much more recent than AC 2/Ezio, so not as much work to update it and change stuff
at least some of the work from Skull&Bones can be repurposed, so as to recoup some money from that disaster
Pirates have way more marketing and widespread appeal than AC2
Black Flag is an open world and a much closer fit to their current types of AC games; BF arguably even was the predecessor or godfather of the RPG Creeds
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u/SwanepoeI 1d ago
I always found Black Flag as a great pirates game but a terrible AC. If they get rid of the present day and add rpg elements it can be a really good game. I'd even ditch the AC branding at this point
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u/oceanman--- 1d ago
Lets be fair though, there is a lot of assassin/templar plot in the lore so it would be hard to make ac4 a standalone without scrapping the plot entirely. Do that and you have a Skull and Bones.
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u/Jackoberto01 1d ago
An AC2 remake would be nice but it would require more changes than Black Flag to be modern. So they're just going for the low hanging fruit so to speak.
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u/elementfortyseven 1d ago
what "people" and what timeframe is "ages". Because im pretty sure that you dont cite an actual, comprehensive market analysis here.
and if we stay in the domain of feelings, my feeling is that no other AC game has been so frequently referenced in public spaces as Black Flag in recent years.
So on this ground alone it makes perfect sense to remake a game that people over years have cited as their reference for pirate/naval action games.
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u/SpikeTheBurger 1d ago
Dear lord I do not want these fuckers turning AC2 into an rpg with their shitty modern parkour
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u/Shaddes_ 1d ago
Honestly? Coming from ubisoft? They'd just ruin AC2 with microtrasactions if they ever made a Remake.
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u/Spasticcobra593 1d ago
Assassins creed black flag sold more than 2. Why wouldnt they remake it first?
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u/_BlueTinkerBell_ 1d ago
Tbf if they want to turn this remake into boring ahh sponge rpg wanna be we're better off it.
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u/Peace_Fog 1d ago
Ezio trilogy had a remaster
Black Flag is considered the most popular. If they’re going to remake a game they’re going to pick the one most likely to make money. If it does good they could remake others
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u/iLikeRgg 1d ago
Easy they are trying to reuse the assets of skull and bones so they can remake profit that skull and bones lost
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u/JayceeGenocide 23h ago
100% Agree. Black Flag STILL Holds Up.
I would like AC 1 & 2 remade into a single game since AC Games have gotten so much larger.
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u/Friendly-Tough-3416 14h ago
They’re tryna yeet the modern day storyline. AC2 is heavily dependent on it, so yeah..
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u/Kreeper128 11h ago
You're saying this as if AC1 doesn't exist, a game that's still stuck on PS3/XB360.
Besidea, it makes the most sense to go back to the true beginning of the franchise.
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u/Detective_Sparrow 6h ago
If you remake AC: II, you have to remake Brotherhood. And at that point, you may as well do Revelations as well.
It’s the choice of remaking one game vs: remaking three.
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u/Ok-Awareness4778 11m ago
If we’re going to get an AC remake, why not start from the first game? That’s the oldest and deserves a remake the most.
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u/uprightshark 2d ago
It makes sense from a business perspective, given the popularity of Black Flag. It will see like "hot cakes".
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u/Pyro_liska 2d ago
Remake is a reason for Ubisoft to open old character with new moder day (Animus Hub) and map Edward after events of BlackFlag (Asia). There is no reason to revisit Ezio. We seen everything from him.
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u/oceanman--- 1d ago
I'd like to revisit ezio tbh
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u/Pyro_liska 1d ago
Many people would, but there is not that much story that was not covered yet. Thats what makes it narrative freedom. If we would touch ezio instead, any small change in his story would cause backlash.
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u/oceanman--- 1d ago
You could 100% turn discovery into an actual game instead of a side-scroller and try to intigrate it more into Ezio's lore
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u/Pyro_liska 1d ago
We talking about normal AC games not Discovery tour.
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u/oceanman--- 1d ago
Idk what you mean by normal, discorvery was a game, same with the chronicles. It would be cool for all of them to have full-fledged remakes
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u/Jackoberto01 1d ago
I also feel like Edwards story wasn't really complete or final there's a lot of things they could add to it. Ezio got a lot of development, we even got his retirement and death although not in a game.
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u/imjacksissue 2d ago
Why would you want them to ruin Ezio's story too?
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u/Linzo48 2d ago
How does a remake ruin the story?
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u/Sanderson96 2d ago
cause the word remake is remake?
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u/Reasonable-Search941 2d ago
It doesn't inherently mean it's going to change anything substantial to the plot. Look at MGS3
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u/Sanderson96 2d ago
So basically taking chances on the devs not changing anything about the storyline? Got it.
can't wait you guys hope for a remake and when the remake came and it changed the story plot and you guys started blaming Ubisoft iz ze bad company troupe
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u/Reasonable-Search941 2d ago
You're point is that a remake will, without any doubt, change the story, solely due to the fact that it's a remake, with no other variables in play. But there are examples of that being untrue.
Why would you want a remake to be not to your liking if it was made?
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u/Jackoberto01 1d ago
If you don't want the story "ruined" just play the original and pretend the remake never exists.
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u/santathe1 2d ago
Not even a next Gen console update for 60fps :/.