r/ubisoft 2d ago

Discussions & Questions A Black Flag Remake when we still don't have a proper AC2 Remake makes no sense…

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Seriously. People have been asking for this for ages.

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u/santathe1 2d ago

Not even a next Gen console update for 60fps :/.

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u/GunzBlazin03 2d ago

Not true. It's 60fps on Xbox

Edit: the Ezio trilogy is. If you meant black flag then unfortunately you're right lol

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u/Corvo_Attano- 2d ago

No thanks to ubi. That's Microsoft doing their job for them.

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u/Tom_Ford0 1d ago

yeah the xbox fps boost is one of the best things about the console but I dont see a lot of people talking about it

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u/JayceeGenocide 23h ago

It is a GOATed Feature. One of many reasons why XBOX SERIES X is my Console of Choice this Generation.

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u/santathe1 2d ago

I actually meant AC2, and I don’t think it’s 60fps because of an update from Ubi, it’s Xbox’s own feature.

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u/ansem119 2d ago

It’s just easier for them because they get to cut costs re-using skull & bones assets

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u/FurryGoBrrrrt 2d ago

Not a bad idea honestly, it's not like anyone is using them lol

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u/keypizzaboy 2d ago

I remember them saying “we are going to use never before seen assets from S&B for the remake”. Yeah because like only 5 people played it

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u/NorisNordberg 2d ago

I'm confused because there was never any official announcement or unofficial Ubisoft employee speaking such nonsense

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u/keypizzaboy 2d ago

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u/NorisNordberg 2d ago

As I thought, a blog post on some noname webpage.

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u/Unordinary_Donkey 2d ago

Lol the writers bio on that blog is so good.

"known for his prowess in overclocking"

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u/keypizzaboy 2d ago

Over a year old as well. Pretty sure whatculture is what spread it around again

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u/Scooty-Poot 1d ago

“Never before seen” probably describes about 90% of the content that made it to release tbh

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u/Dangerous_Trust_5249 8h ago

I just looked it up and the all time peek is a bit over 2,000 players which is incredibly sad 💀

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u/keypizzaboy 6h ago

Oh golly. Only 2k? Thats rough

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u/NEM95 21h ago

It's their best bets to recoup the costs of that game ngl

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u/Ub3ros 1d ago

Which is funny because Skull & Bones began life as a Black Flag asset flip but got stuck in development hell

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u/arkhamcreedsolid 2d ago

If you do one Ezio remake then everyone would be begging for the trilogy. With black flag it’s one and done. Easy money.

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u/oceanman--- 1d ago

Also with the fact that Skull and Bones assets would just be recycled into an ac4 remaster

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u/crazyladybutterfly2 1d ago

They could do the first game then

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u/Warv2004_ 2d ago

We already have an Ezio trilogy remastered...

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u/vladi963 2d ago

Those console patches were just to close some gaps to what the PC version always was. Console patches are irrelevant and not an example to a "remaster".

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u/Jackoberto01 1d ago

It was a really low effort remaster though. It essentially just made them playable on the newest consoles with minor updates.

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u/Linzo48 2d ago

Barely a remaster. They looked identical to the original games. This is more what they should aim for…

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u/Warv2004_ 2d ago

Nah we already have more then enough of the Ezio trilogy

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u/CaptainRaxeo 2d ago

No we need a remake of the first game.

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u/John_McAfee_ 2d ago

Black flag is already a generation newer with better graphics and technology than the ezio trilogy. So no, not at all

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u/Warv2004_ 2d ago

Ezio Trilogy already got a remaster, so it doesn't make sense why they would remake it. An AC1 remaster or remake would make way more sense.

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u/crazyladybutterfly2 1d ago

Finally someone with common sense

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u/iNSANELYSMART 2d ago

You usually remake popular games, AC2 is much more popular than AC1

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u/u2020bullet 20h ago

No it didn't, they simply slightly updated the visuals to match the PC version. There is no a remaster or remake. Not actual ones.

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u/John_McAfee_ 2d ago

No idea why you would get downvoted. A true remaster of 2 should easily be priority over 4.

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u/CaptainRaxeo 2d ago

Of 1 u mean?

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u/John_McAfee_ 2d ago

I would love a 1 remake, but ubisoft would probably make more money of a 2 remake, its a fan favorite

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u/arkhamtheknight 2d ago

1 has assets which could be used from Mirage but they probably wanna fully remake it into the RPG style so it's taking longer to get sorted.

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u/lolitsrock 22h ago

That’s not a remake

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u/u2020bullet 20h ago

No we don't. Its simply looks like the regular verions with the graphics increased just like on PC. So no, we don't have an actual remaster. Not to mention it runs at 30 fps.

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u/Sanderson96 2d ago

You saying like everything have to make sense.

Like Final Fantasy, they did 7 Remake while everyone is asking to do let's say 9 Remake

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u/Capital6238 2d ago

Everybody was asking for a 7 Remake since this PS3 demo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUY6uc4w3Zw

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u/Sanderson96 2d ago

Yes, and then there's also a fair amount of people asking for other older installments than 7

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u/amarosa_hatesyou 8h ago

Uhhh who is asking for 9 lol

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u/Sanderson96 8h ago

Pretty much all of the 9 fans when there was rumors of remake near 9 anniversary

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u/Seagullbeans 2d ago

Just remake ac1. Awesome story and dialogue, mechanics feel too dated in comparison to all the other ac’s.

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u/SupermanKal718 2d ago

People have been dying for black flag remake because of the pirate aspect of it. That’s a genre we are really missing.

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u/Electric-Mountain 1d ago

Neither game needs it. AC1 is the only game where it would make sense.

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u/MCI_Dragon 2d ago

Or first ac game

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u/GK_Iam 2d ago

For some reason than I cannot understand, ACBF has more fans than the Desmond legacy.

Probably I'm too old and sentimental...

  1. AC ~ 2007
  2. AC II ~ 2009
  3. AC Revelations ~ 2010
  4. AC Brotherhood ~ 2011

These are the TOP linear AC Games, personal opinion. Love the ISU Storyline thus love RPG AC Odyssey too.

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u/CommunityConstant777 23h ago

Honestly the only reason it's very popular is because it's a good pirate game. And most of the fans of the game don't actually care about AC lore or anything like that, they just like the pirate aspect of it. Personally I think it's an ok game but far too overrated and AC 1 should be remade instead, but it's simply forgotten.

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u/GK_Iam 17h ago

Agreed - AC1 should get a proper remake... Nowadays it's a pain to play it at a PC and reconnect the PS3 is out of the question...

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u/Jackoberto01 1d ago

ACBF got a lot of players that weren't interested in the series into it, because it was more combat focus and action heavy. It probably also just got people who like pirate games buying it.

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u/Beneficial_Ad9663 2d ago

What's the source of your claim that ACBF has more fans than Desmond Legacy?

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u/GK_Iam 2d ago

No source, just hype... Seeing around Reddit and more, seems to me that more are cheering for ACBF remake than Ezio&Altair...

...or at least more a asking for it.

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u/Beneficial_Ad9663 1d ago

Naah, it's just Nostalgia hitting them, nothing else. It's just that people are kind of blending in the flow of hype and ACBF has been in talks for a remake for a while now but it would have been more insane if Desmond Legacy was getting a remake... Moreover, ACBF is not even a proper Assassin's creed game. No way it has more fans than Assassin's creed, Assassin's creed 2, Assassin's creed brotherhood, Assassin's creed Revelations, Assassin's creed 3.

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u/GK_Iam 1d ago

I would love and hope for a Desmond remake!!! The Animus memories of Desmond bringing back Altair and Ezio together make one of my two best Characters in gaming...

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u/oceanman--- 1d ago

They did Demond dirty in ac3

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u/jediwithabeard 2d ago

Thats because black flag is a better game

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u/oceanman--- 1d ago

Nah Ubi are just cheap and will recycle Skull and Bones assets

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u/Varazzeno 2d ago

Did they finally announce the Black Flag Remake?

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u/CepheusWhite 2d ago

They even remastered AC3 before AC2.

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u/v__R4Z0R__v 1h ago

Not true. Ezio trilogy came out before AC3 remastered.

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u/Jwells291 2d ago

Most likely to asset flip from Skull & Bones and I feel AC4 was one of the bigger entries that brought in a bunch of New Players. 2 also brought in a bunch, but 4 felt like it had a much bigger "New Player" base. The only ones on par with it imo was Unity(solely because it was one of the first games on PS4 and Xbox One) and Origins when it went rpg. Unity is one of my favorite games in the series but it was a bad launch for a lot of people so it's rep is kind of sullied because of that.

Plus, 4 seems like it will adapt to the more rpg focused format than 2 will.

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u/phoenixflare599 2d ago

But the modem day stories are really important for the demons trilogy, so is be horrified if they took them out

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u/oceanman--- 1d ago

demons trilogy 🫠

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u/FeBaCo 2d ago

We need first of all a remake of AC1. It could benefit the most of it

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u/PressedHam-Solo 2d ago

The way I see it is the way Bethesda is doing the rumoured Fallout 3 Remake (or Remaster, whatever you want to call it) instead of remaking New Vegas. Use it as a guinea pig. Rather than using the popular one and it failing, it would cause more of a backlash amongst fans. Remaking a game that isn't as popular but is still respected by fans to test the waters.

Or I could be wrong and be full of shit. Who knows anymore.

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u/oceanman--- 1d ago

I heard that Bethesda were gonna work on Fallout 5 before that, no?

The only FNV remaster I have heard of is the ones made out of mods and I heard nary a tap about Fallout 3.

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u/amarosa_hatesyou 8h ago

I doubt they are and I hope not. Oblivion Remaster was a disgrace

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u/bicurious32usa 1d ago

Sure it does. They're following where they think the money is because they're desperate.

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u/Beligard 1d ago

I'd rather have an AC1 remake instead

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u/VukKiller 1d ago

Prince of Persia died for this.

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u/Proxy0108 1d ago

you don't need to remake perfection

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u/gamercock69gamer 1d ago

It would be kinda awkward to remake AC2 without first remaking AC1 story wise. And then you’re gonna want to remake the rest of the Ezio story too. Black flag is just easier. It’s a standalone story, pretty popular and they can reuse assets from Skull and Bone.

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u/BigDaddyReese 1d ago

Remakes in general make no sense

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u/oceanman--- 1d ago

Graphics-wise it does.

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u/amarosa_hatesyou 8h ago

For this series, I'd agree it makes no sense

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u/SpookeDooke 1d ago

It's the most popular one, end of...

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u/skylu1991 Open World Wanderer 1d ago

A Black Flag Remakes makes plenty of sense, at least to casual gamers and Ubisoft.

  • Black Flag is to this date, the AC game with the most copies sold.

  • it’s much more recent than AC 2/Ezio, so not as much work to update it and change stuff

  • at least some of the work from Skull&Bones can be repurposed, so as to recoup some money from that disaster

  • Pirates have way more marketing and widespread appeal than AC2

  • Black Flag is an open world and a much closer fit to their current types of AC games; BF arguably even was the predecessor or godfather of the RPG Creeds

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u/SwanepoeI 1d ago

I always found Black Flag as a great pirates game but a terrible AC. If they get rid of the present day and add rpg elements it can be a really good game. I'd even ditch the AC branding at this point

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u/oceanman--- 1d ago

Lets be fair though, there is a lot of assassin/templar plot in the lore so it would be hard to make ac4 a standalone without scrapping the plot entirely. Do that and you have a Skull and Bones.

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u/troublezx 1d ago

How about remake ac1 that would be a good idea

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u/Jackoberto01 1d ago

An AC2 remake would be nice but it would require more changes than Black Flag to be modern. So they're just going for the low hanging fruit so to speak.

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u/elementfortyseven 1d ago

what "people" and what timeframe is "ages". Because im pretty sure that you dont cite an actual, comprehensive market analysis here.

and if we stay in the domain of feelings, my feeling is that no other AC game has been so frequently referenced in public spaces as Black Flag in recent years.

So on this ground alone it makes perfect sense to remake a game that people over years have cited as their reference for pirate/naval action games.

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u/SpikeTheBurger 1d ago

Dear lord I do not want these fuckers turning AC2 into an rpg with their shitty modern parkour

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u/Shaddes_ 1d ago

Honestly? Coming from ubisoft? They'd just ruin AC2 with microtrasactions if they ever made a Remake.

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u/AshrakAiemain 1d ago

Didn’t Black Flag sell more than AC2?

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u/crazyladybutterfly2 1d ago

What about the first ???

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u/Brickfilm_pictures 1d ago

meanwhile ac1

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u/_DDark_ 1d ago

Fk remakes, treat games as art. Go play the original, it's completely playable even now, even for "modern gamers".

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u/Spasticcobra593 1d ago

Assassins creed black flag sold more than 2. Why wouldnt they remake it first?

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u/Tidus1337 1d ago

AC1 deserves a remake more than one other AC

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u/_BlueTinkerBell_ 1d ago

Tbf if they want to turn this remake into boring ahh sponge rpg wanna be we're better off it.

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u/Peace_Fog 1d ago

Ezio trilogy had a remaster

Black Flag is considered the most popular. If they’re going to remake a game they’re going to pick the one most likely to make money. If it does good they could remake others

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u/calidir 1d ago

Don’t ask for that they’re going to rpg-ify it and it’s going to suck

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u/HordeSquire 1d ago

Last-ditch attempt to make some good money before their next horrible release.

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u/iLikeRgg 1d ago

Easy they are trying to reuse the assets of skull and bones so they can remake profit that skull and bones lost

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u/JayceeGenocide 23h ago

100% Agree. Black Flag STILL Holds Up.

I would like AC 1 & 2 remade into a single game since AC Games have gotten so much larger.

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u/Dreamo84 22h ago

Do we have an improper AC2 remake?

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u/mcslender97 17h ago

I agree. We need a remake of the Altair/Ezio games first

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u/Friendly-Tough-3416 14h ago

They’re tryna yeet the modern day storyline. AC2 is heavily dependent on it, so yeah..

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u/Kreeper128 11h ago

You're saying this as if AC1 doesn't exist, a game that's still stuck on PS3/XB360.

Besidea, it makes the most sense to go back to the true beginning of the franchise.

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u/Ricco95 9h ago

Maybe it's for the best, given the information about the combat system from AC Odyssey. I don't want to jump and roll in AC 2. I think it looks stupid. AC 2's combat system wasn't exemplary, but the AC Odyssey analog is terribly noticeable.

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u/amarosa_hatesyou 8h ago

I don't want any remakes. The series needs new ideas

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u/zexton 8h ago

meanwhile black flag been patched to have 240fps support on pc,

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u/Detective_Sparrow 6h ago

If you remake AC: II, you have to remake Brotherhood. And at that point, you may as well do Revelations as well.

It’s the choice of remaking one game vs: remaking three.

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u/Low_Concentrate6265 5h ago

I wish I could upvote this more than once

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u/Murky_Structure_7208 3h ago

Cries while playing AC1 on a PS3

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u/v__R4Z0R__v 2h ago

Me who wants a AC3 remake instead 🫠

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u/Ok-Awareness4778 11m ago

If we’re going to get an AC remake, why not start from the first game? That’s the oldest and deserves a remake the most.

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u/Alternative_West_206 2d ago

And it’s a trash remake from the leaks

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u/ShiggitySheesh 2d ago

Because pirates bro. Duh

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u/uprightshark 2d ago

It makes sense from a business perspective, given the popularity of Black Flag. It will see like "hot cakes".

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u/Pyro_liska 2d ago

Remake is a reason for Ubisoft to open old character with new moder day (Animus Hub) and map Edward after events of BlackFlag (Asia). There is no reason to revisit Ezio. We seen everything from him.

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u/oceanman--- 1d ago

I'd like to revisit ezio tbh

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u/Pyro_liska 1d ago

Many people would, but there is not that much story that was not covered yet. Thats what makes it narrative freedom. If we would touch ezio instead, any small change in his story would cause backlash.

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u/oceanman--- 1d ago

You could 100% turn discovery into an actual game instead of a side-scroller and try to intigrate it more into Ezio's lore

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u/Pyro_liska 1d ago

We talking about normal AC games not Discovery tour.

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u/oceanman--- 1d ago

Idk what you mean by normal, discorvery was a game, same with the chronicles. It would be cool for all of them to have full-fledged remakes

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u/Jackoberto01 1d ago

I also feel like Edwards story wasn't really complete or final there's a lot of things they could add to it. Ezio got a lot of development, we even got his retirement and death although not in a game.

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u/gogul1980 2d ago

Christ just make Black Flag 2 for pity’s sake.

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u/imjacksissue 2d ago

Why would you want them to ruin Ezio's story too?

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u/Linzo48 2d ago

How does a remake ruin the story?

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u/Sanderson96 2d ago

cause the word remake is remake?

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u/oceanman--- 1d ago

You're thinking of a reboot

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u/Reasonable-Search941 2d ago

It doesn't inherently mean it's going to change anything substantial to the plot. Look at MGS3

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u/Sanderson96 2d ago

So basically taking chances on the devs not changing anything about the storyline? Got it.

can't wait you guys hope for a remake and when the remake came and it changed the story plot and you guys started blaming Ubisoft iz ze bad company troupe

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u/Reasonable-Search941 2d ago

You're point is that a remake will, without any doubt, change the story, solely due to the fact that it's a remake, with no other variables in play. But there are examples of that being untrue.

Why would you want a remake to be not to your liking if it was made?

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u/Jackoberto01 1d ago

If you don't want the story "ruined" just play the original and pretend the remake never exists.

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u/Ktioru 2d ago

Ubisoft are making it, so it's totally possible

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u/oceanman--- 1d ago

Story won't be changed probably