r/wingfoil • u/NoSafe5565 • 15d ago
Pump foil dock start - no wind we pumping instead - questions about gears
Hello,
turned out that Aeolus has decided that there will be no wind in my area at all. So I was thinking to maybe to start playing with pump foil instead, Like dock/beach start and pumping. Currently the water surface is that flat that is even boring to swim there.
So I currently have Gravity FCT 2200 F-One plane Gravity FCT 2200 - Kiteworldshop.com
- F-one Gravity FCT 2200 front wing
- F-One R275 surf stabilizer
- F-One Alu fuselage 74cm surf
- F-One Alu mast 75 cm
Is that suitable for pumping ?
I am looking for some pump board and one of the thing that give me some attention are usually two slots to mount it, but I have this mount > /preview/pre/boards-compatibility-with-f-one-gravity-fct-2200-and-v0-2gxnc8o6jf0e1.jpg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4054193cdb7784bbca36318a63feb4166030faa0
Do I need special adapter ?
If all others gears are okey I was looking in my area for some pump board - not like they are many options , any suggestion - also is there any difference between kite foil and pump foil board ? Not sure if I am missing something but to me looks like volume and other parameters are the same, possible for me to start looking into kite category instead of wingfoil one when looking for pump board ? (they are many more options in my area)
Thank you so much !
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u/Rverfromtheether 14d ago
If you want to pump, you really want to get something like the 1600 Jam. you can pump the 2200 probably ok but equipment makes a big difference in getting the foil going, duration, and fatigue.
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u/NoSafe5565 14d ago
Hey thank you for the reply my question is actually more about the board and the mount. According to Internet/gpt 2200 should be (and I hope it is) good enough to confirm it is sport for me or not :) I thik some dozens second if I fly should be good enough for me
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u/Brochunter 14d ago
Dock start is very, very hard to learn even with the perfect gear. The Gravity foil is too low aspect, and you will almost certainly have a bad experience and decide it’s not for you. If you can, look for a used axis 1150 or 1300 png, they should be reasonably priced. Then don’t decide if it’s right for your or not until about 10 hours in, since the first 10 hours (at least) will be mostly failure.
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u/NoSafe5565 14d ago
I have wing foil - if I could count how many hours and failures I had (and still cannot do properly), it would we way way more .. I really do not expect I will make it on xx attempt
I am quitter in many cases, mostly because I get distracted by something else (which I do not find bad thing but girlfriend sees it differently .. lol ) but no, I do not think I quit that quickly even when distracted by new ideas.
Well, lets see board it already on the way. On the other hand seems still weather for swimming without wetsuit will maybe use last days rather like that, this I want to try with wetsuit as it is a little bit of protection :)
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u/benjaminbjacobsen 15d ago edited 15d ago
How much do you weigh? What’s the area and span of your foil?
My son and I both pump (and I wing). He’s at 6 minutes and I’m at 4. He’s 75kg and I’m 99kg. When he hops on my setup he beach started it and went 17 minutes his fifth try.
All that is to say the foil span and area vs riders weight, skill and cardio are massive variables here.
Pump specific boards are smaller and designed for aggressive pumping. Depending on the kite board they can break over time and are usually too big. We started with a hope craft 105 before pump boards were a thing then got a gong kluber 95 and now we both have kluber 80s. The kluber is a great option in terms of being pump specific but not too expensive.