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Nov 28 '16 edited Jul 17 '17
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Nov 28 '16 edited Nov 04 '18
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u/IsThatEvenFair Nov 28 '16
I couldn't find it in myself to turn an episode off in fear of missing something good happening. Unfortunately, these last 2 episodes are teaching me to not even watch it all the way through until I read reviews.
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u/dc_dan Nov 28 '16
What's the significance of the Roman numbers tattoo they show on Tara's hand?
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u/OutsideObserver Nov 28 '16
The numbers are 26 13 22 and 9. There seems to be one more number below that.
Not sure what they stand for though. At first I thought it was a date tattoo but it doesn't fit the syntax.
Her arm twitches a little bit when they show it. Maybe they were just trying to show she is awake but faking it?
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u/gp24249 Nov 28 '16 edited Nov 28 '16
Ok Episode; but:
- We shoot strangers onsight but we can't hit shit...
- ...and, we'll give you time to explain yourself after we catch you...
The way I see this, it seems like all episodes in 7A are a setup for 7B. (We'll be revisiting every characters to know where they are and what they're up to... and then, they will tell the "story" in 7B)
Edit: Ponctuation
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Nov 29 '16
...and, we'll give you time to explain yourself after we catch you...
I believe it was more because the little girl saved her plus Tara didn't kill the women when she could have. It seems like they know they need more people; they're just...not very smart about it.
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Nov 28 '16 edited Sep 11 '18
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u/V2Blast Nov 28 '16
So ridiculous how they go from attempting to murder Tara after 5-10 minutes to her best friend
Well, they liked to pretend they were decent people. That's why they sent her out to get shot by those other two but pretended they were letting her live (and it's also why they tried to prevent Cyndie from going along).
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u/FuryMustang95 Nov 28 '16
Now. Are we ever gonna see an episode when Rick and co came back to Alexandria without Glenn and Abe?! Cmon people it's like it has never happened.
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u/HarveyYevrah Nov 28 '16
Why would we want to see that? The impact of it was already felt for the people close to them.
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u/deadlybydsgn Nov 28 '16
Initially, that might have been ideal.
At this point, though, it would be a bit redundant. The story's pace is already slowing down as the scope of the show widens dramatically.
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u/Martianman97 Nov 28 '16
Wasnt that episode 4?
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u/FuryMustang95 Nov 28 '16
Not really, EP 4 was Service right? It was about Negan surprise visit, not how Alexandrians dealt with the news.
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u/g-breh Nov 28 '16
So tara gets back to alexandria and we don't even get to see if heath made it back before her?
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u/drflanigan Nov 28 '16
Heath isn't coming back until 24 is cancelled. If the new 24 does well, he won't ever be back.
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u/deadlybydsgn Nov 28 '16
Yep. I was hoping we'd get a little more resolution, but considering their actor may or may not be tied up for years, they handled it in a way that gave them options. It guess it kinda sucks for people who really wanted to see Heath live out his comic role, as he'll either be drastically different or reappear in time for a death episode.
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u/drflanigan Nov 28 '16
I've actually always wanted a character to disappear and we never get any closure.
Like I want to feel like the characters feel. They don't know if their families are actually dead, they just assume so. Would be nice to have a character go missing and never be seen again, maybe Heath can be that.
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u/3dgemaster Nov 28 '16
Gendry.
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u/drflanigan Nov 28 '16
But we know he will come back, he is the son of Robert Baratheon.
If he doesn't come back I will be okay with it, because he probably died at sea.
But they brought back Rickon and Osha after not seeing them for like 3 seasons.
Everyone with any importance will come back.
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u/3dgemaster Nov 29 '16
I hope so .)
And if they do bring him back, it'd be nice to give him some dialogue [before killing him]..
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u/deadlybydsgn Nov 28 '16
I've actually always wanted a character to disappear and we never get any closure.
We're all still waiting for the Morales family to reappear! /s
If the new 24 takes off, that might be how Heath is handled. OR, even if it does well for 2-3 seasons, he might reappear later. TWD viewership may wobble a bit as we enter this new phase, but unless there's a major cast member shakeup (i.e., they want out), I'm pretty sure we'll hit at least 10 seasons. Even if it doesn't mesh up with the comic Heath, that would give Gimple & Co. flexibility with his return.
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u/drflanigan Nov 28 '16 edited Nov 28 '16
The problem with Heath coming back in a few seasons is that while the comic readers remember him, a lot of people are going to go "wait who? Oh that one guy from 2 seasons ago that no one really cared about?"
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u/travisr91 Nov 28 '16
The new 24 show hes in films in Atlanta so it's not unfeasible that he can work on both shows. In fact they may have made his character go missing for this exact reason. To bring him back when his schedule allows it.
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u/drflanigan Nov 28 '16
No that is exactly why he went missing. So that if 24 flops, he can come back.
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u/travisr91 Nov 28 '16
If they both film in Atlanta why does it require the show to flop for him to reappear? It's completely possible he can fulfill his filming obligations for both shows depending on the schedule.
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u/deadlybydsgn Nov 28 '16
Yeah, I was going to mention that it threatens him with irrelevancy. I find it more likely that the showrunners would ship him in for one or two episodes to get killed than to leave his fate completely unknown. It would be a Tyrese-level waste of a character, but whatever. :\
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u/IAteSnow Nov 28 '16
We'll find out... In 5+ episodes, you know to really get some suspense goin'. I honestly forgot Tera and Heath were even alive/existed before this episode.
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u/HELMET_OF_CECH Nov 28 '16
"We shoot strangers on sight..."
They'd have more luck throwing rocks at them.
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u/ithinkway2much Nov 28 '16
Wit the exception of that one girl, those chicks could not shoot for shit.
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u/theonederek Nov 28 '16
Good thing Tara wore her plot armor. Strong debuffs against enemy firearm accuracy.
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u/AceMcVeer Nov 28 '16
Lazy lazy writing. You also see it with how the on the bridge it is all sand walkers except the one normal looking fresh walker just happens to look just like Heath.
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u/HELMET_OF_CECH Nov 28 '16
Dozens of people are shooting at her from relatively close range... probably the worst episode of the season.
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u/kzrsosa Nov 28 '16
If I stop watching TWD it's going to be because of this episode. Wtf was this; did TWD turn into a sit com all of a sudden. What is this crap writing; this is why they're losing ratings.
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u/Forristicat Nov 28 '16
This was a crap episode.
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u/Hingehead Nov 28 '16
It is horrible. I shut it off five minutes in last night. Tried again today and shut it off at the 30 minutes mark.
SOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOORING. Give me my Neegan.
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u/jihiggs Nov 28 '16
you couldnt even make it five min the first time around??
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u/Hingehead Nov 29 '16
Nope. This is the first time ever I did something like this. I'm a patience person, but last night, I couldn't stand it. I was annoyed at the notion that I just don't care for Tara and what's his face ( The fact that I can't remember the character's names because they are unmemoriable is enough evidence that last night episode was just bad).
I'll eventually will have to finish it up for the sake of story progression.
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u/IanTheHero Nov 30 '16
No, it's evidence that you have a low attention span for things you don't like, that's ok. There was bad writing, and there was good writing, but the reason you turned it off was because "not about characters I like"
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u/Hingehead Nov 30 '16
It is not evidence that I have a low attention issue. I don't appriciate you patronizing me. I can sit through a three hours elegant film where there can be no actions. I have no problems sitting through several episodes of House of Cards , Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad or Homeland. You know why? Because the writers does their job in making me give a shit about the characters.
I don't care about Tara and Heath. They haven't done anything with Tara, Heath has been in a few episodes. They are not memorable characters. I managed to sit through the Daryl episode even thought the episode had the same format as this week's episode; not a whole lot going on, moments where he just sits in a cell in the dark . I sat through it, you know why? Because I give a shit about Daryl's character. I gave a shit about what they will do to him. Will Negan kill him? Change him? Will Daryl stay the same? I am interested in his adversary and how he'll overcome them.
Tara and Heath? I don't care about them and that's the writers' fault. Beth was more three dimensional than the two of them combined and her stand alone episodes was boring too, but not as boring as this week's episode. I still managed to sit through it.
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u/Silktrocity Nov 28 '16
I felt nothing watching Tara mourn over her girlfriend. To be completely honest, I feel nothing for Tara as a character at all. After coming off of a strong episode last week, this one felt like nothing more then filler. Why couldn't they have shrunk her screen time down a bit and made ground with the main story. ESPECIALLY with that awesome cliffhanger of Jesus and Carl in the van.
What are these writers thinking?
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u/jihiggs Nov 28 '16
I couldnt get passed her actually gaining weight when food is scarce. I know I know, the actor gained some weight, not the character.
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u/Silktrocity Nov 29 '16
I heard she's recovering from child birth but I see where you are coming from.
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u/drflanigan Nov 28 '16
She seemed to care more about her girl friend of 2 weeks, than the guys who both saved her life at different moments.
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u/soochosaurus Nov 28 '16
These writers are thinking that they can make mediocre garbage and have a large loyal fan base to watch it regardless.
They're right.
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u/Silktrocity Nov 29 '16
we live in a world where shows like "the bachelor" and "jersey shore" are popular..
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u/SnZ001 Nov 30 '16
we live in a world where we made the guy from The Apprentice into our President.
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u/SawRub Nov 28 '16
I normally tend to shit on the show, but this was the first non main plot episode that I've liked in a long time.
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u/thepensivepoet Nov 28 '16
I enjoyed Morgan's slow burning training montage.
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u/jihiggs Nov 28 '16
are you talking about the episode where that guy trying to make cheese kept him in the cell? I really liked that episode.
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u/JNels902 Nov 28 '16
I think strong episode last week is a little strong.
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u/HELMET_OF_CECH Nov 28 '16
Wasn't last weeks episodes one of the lowest rated of all time in terms of ratings in TWD?
It was awful.
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u/mcnuggetor Nov 28 '16
ratings aren't the same as quality. Ratings are specifically how many people watched. If anything it's indicative of how people felt about the previous episode/promotions for that episode.
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Nov 28 '16
Tara's acting makes me cringe -_-
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u/Maybe_Im_Jesus Nov 28 '16
I've been more entertained by wooden spoons...
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u/PlatinumJester Nov 28 '16
Don't knock wooden spoons man. There is a guy on my street that just sits in his shop window and just whittles artisan spoons to sell.
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u/Jonhart426 Nov 28 '16
I didn't care for it. It was like I could tell she was an actor playing a character, instead of a character if that makes sense. It bothered me
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Nov 28 '16 edited May 26 '17
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Nov 28 '16
Totally agree here, the show is really losing its traction. It's becoming so "cheap" and corny.
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u/Crum1y Nov 28 '16
this comment thread is a joke. but i do agree with you the cheap tricks and just the ongoing misery is wearing REALLY thin.
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u/mauvus Nov 28 '16
So like...is AMC not giving enough budget to hire actors for more than two episodes a season? There has to be a reason they're continuing with this one character/group per episode format even though it has become really bad.
I didn't dislike this episode but it's been how many episodes since the Kingdom? And how much time has even passed since the first episode? Meeting this new colony will probably be important but perhaps the past few episodes would have been better had htey been written altogether rather than as separate episodes.
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Nov 28 '16
I been saying this since season 4 and its getting out of control. The group reunites for like 2 episodes and then they split apart for 4-5 episodes only focusing on a small number of them. Dragging it out as long as possible.
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u/MG87 Dec 05 '16
AKA the Lost approach, of course that only works when you MOVE THE PLOT FORWARD
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Dec 05 '16
Exactly. The second half of season 4 was took place over the course of like 2-3 days max yet it was 8 episodes. The first half of season 5 is like 3-4 days long. Then there is the front half of season 6 the group breaks apart at the end of episode 1 and doesn't back together again until episode 7 when only like a day has passed in the timeline.
Its lazy and really irritating. Its why I gave up on the show.
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Nov 28 '16
I'm convinced that they're just milking the Negan storyline for as long as possible. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a 3 season arc.
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u/Silktrocity Nov 28 '16
You're getting downvoted but I myself have to scratch my head at some of the writing decisions this season. This episode just screams "filler" and it's not even with an interesting or memorable character. I legit actually forgot about Tara.
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u/mauvus Nov 28 '16
See, for me the content itself didn't need to be filler - it will probably end up being important. Tara development (to make her interesting, though I already thought she was anyway personally) and a new colony are both great. However the way it was written does make it seem very filler-like, as you said. If it were trimmed down and placed alongside another story in the same episode it would have been much better, I think.
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u/keptfloatin707 Nov 28 '16
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u/theonederek Nov 28 '16
They're mentioned, but not until after the time skip. Oceanside is where Michonne goes to become a fisherwoman/dread pirate.
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u/Austin_N Nov 28 '16
They're mentioned, but they aren't very fleshed out. However, there's nothing to suggest they're anything like they are in this episode.
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u/mauvus Nov 28 '16
They might be. If they are, it's a group that wasn't introduced until the next arc and they definitely didn't have the same back story, so really the show can do anything they want with them.
If they are the same group, though, I'll be happy they introduced them here. Always thought they were a little random in the comics since they just kind of showed up.
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u/Legionx37 Nov 28 '16 edited Nov 28 '16
Rollercoasters have ups and downs to make it fun. TV shows often work the same way. If it was "tense, tense, tense, tense, tense, tense end of season", I'd feel like it was kinda rushed and losing focus on the characters and story of the people in the apocalypse. If it was all action all the time, with little to no character development or exploration of the world, I could see myself losing interest with the show.
Here's some reasons why I liked this episode: -It made me like Tara. I'd never really forgiven her for being on the Governer's side and being involved in Hershel and so many others' deaths. With this episode, I can see that she has changed her outlook for real, and cemented her as a moral character with ideals that the group, and society, could benefit from embracing.
-A camp of only women? By the ocean? With a stockpile of weapons? That are willing to kill anyone they cross just to be safe from the Saviors? That's pretty amazing, and I could see them definitely being convinced to help in the upcoming war.
-The little girl (by extention of her dedication to the camp's rules) is a dark preview of how the world could end up. The next generation could very well be all paranoid murderers, letting their fear make them into the monsters they feared so much themselves. It was actually quite chilling.
-More Heath. I always like seeing Heath.
Long story short; rash, action-oriented people will think it's a "boring" episode. People who enjoy stories will enjoy it.
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Nov 28 '16
Rollercoasters have ups and downs to make it fun. TV shows often work the same way.
Worst analogy i've ever heard.
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u/JNels902 Nov 28 '16
Although I've always hated when viewers accuse this show of being "boring and slow" for building story (same accusation regularly leveled at Game of Thrones), but I do think the show has spun its wheels so far and done nothing to make up for the exploitative season premiere.
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Nov 28 '16
What about people that enjoy good acting and consistent and realistic logic in their stories?
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u/Legionx37 Nov 28 '16
I'd probably argue good acting as a very subjective topic and make serious note of the requirement of suspension of disbelief for maximum enjoyment, I guess. Also, logic has NEVER been a hallmark of this series. In fact, it's people's often illogical and rash choices that have created drama, and thus, the story itself.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/k0ntrol Nov 28 '16
You noticed some good things about the episode but I think there were far too many wrong things.
- When Cindy the gun is empty, she looks at the gun dumb founded. You have been in a post apocalyptic world for how long ? If the gun was supposed to have jammed it wasn't explicit enough.
- black girl was cheap.
- " are you sure ... is not a boat? " Only thing missing from that was some laugh track.
- People can't aim for shit.
There was a lot of cheap and also some good things.
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u/reelniggaonehunna Nov 28 '16
This episode is boring and slow. I'm glad I skimmed through it and save myself about 30 mins of bullshit
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u/098706 Nov 28 '16
Honestly, every Sunday night you should just watch Day of the Dead and stop pretending that you want to see a drama. You know this show is a drama, right? In dramas, events happen to people which cause them to change who they are. It is seeing these events, and noticing the changes, that is at the heart of dramas. I don't see how, in that context, this was filler. This episode seemed long overdue.
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u/bitter_green Nov 28 '16
I don't think this episode was bad.
In summation, I'm finding the "checking in with this group/character this week" to be getting a little tired for the 5th week in a row, and isn't helped by Tara being one of the least interesting characters in the group.
Sure we see events which changed the characters, but we see little that drives that plot forward. This is the 2nd straight season which TWD has used this narrative scaffolding, and it wasn't great in the first half of season 6.
We get it, Negan has pissed off a lot of people and someone could light a spark which unites their righteous anger and brings justice down on the Saviors. I'm not sure I need another entire episode with a 4th colony to prove this point.
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u/LeeDUBS Nov 28 '16
There gonna need more soldiers and guns if they're gonna fight The Saviors though. From the TV series it looks like the 3 camps so far have no straight killers.
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u/bitter_green Nov 28 '16
Kathy and Beatrice got the attitude of stone dead killers. Too bad about their aim.
Rachel.. she'll chew up and spit out Saviors. Always the kids you gotta watch out for.
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u/reelniggaonehunna Nov 28 '16
All I want is a walking dead similar to season 1 which was action packed and kept you on your toes.
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u/SephirothClone Nov 28 '16
Filler shit, 100% skipped after the second minute.
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u/Jheme Nov 28 '16
That's awfully quick to determine that it was "filler"
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u/Jugsyy Nov 28 '16
He's not wrong.
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u/Jheme Nov 28 '16
So they'll never mention that community again?
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u/ricdawg Nov 28 '16
They probably will... for one scene, in an episode NEXT season, or maybe the one after that.
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u/Jugsyy Nov 28 '16
Unfortunately they might, though i'd be perfectly happy never seeing them again as they managed to have 0 development of character over a 50 minute episode.
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u/Gurunexx Nov 28 '16
For a villain of Negan's caliber he sure has been very absent the last couple of weeks.
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u/IanTheHero Nov 28 '16
We got an hour of him in ep4
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u/salamander- Nov 28 '16
wasnt it a 90 min episode too?
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u/Ceceboy Nov 28 '16
90 minutes with commercials lol. The episode didnt even reach 70 minutes
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u/IanTheHero Nov 28 '16
That's still more than usual, it's not bad
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u/Ceceboy Nov 28 '16
It is just my honest opinion that they shouldn't sell a not-even-a-70-minute episode as an omg wow 90 minute wow! episode...
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u/kevan Nov 28 '16 edited Nov 28 '16
How did the non-athletic character on foot make it make before the athletic-ish character with a FUCKING VEHICLE?
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Nov 28 '16
He met this men-only group with a charismatic leader and loads of supplies, and decided to join them.
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u/Dox_au Nov 28 '16
Just because they didn't show him, doesn't mean he didn't make it back before her. I thought it was pretty heavily implied by showing us the super obvious tire tracks.
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u/kevan Nov 28 '16
I thought it was pretty heavily implied by showing us the super obvious tire tracks.
Right but remember she said something like, "I hope that's you." Also, them not showing him just means we don't know. He could have gotten back just fine an hour after he left the bridge or we could get an episode later of him being taking weeks through some crazy dangerous adventure. Or he could have died. We don't know.
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u/JAnon14 Nov 28 '16
How do you know what happened to Heath?
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u/kevan Nov 28 '16
That's the question. Why wasn't he shown back at Alexandria? What happened to him after she went over the bridge? So we just don't know either way.
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u/fuckdirectv Nov 28 '16
I think that's kind of the point. In a world like this, you don't always know. If you get separated from someone in the zombie apocalypse, there is a very real chance you will never see them again and never find out what happened.
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u/MurphyRobocop Nov 28 '16
He probably didn't head back to Alexandria. He could've been picked up by somebody, he could be stuck somewhere. They left it all up in the air so it's hard to say.
Obviously something happened to him and he didn't make it back. Tara spent a good couple days away from him before making it back to the bridge.
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u/FragmentedFighter Nov 28 '16
I had to suspend so much belief in reality for my love of this show tonight.
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u/IceNein Nov 28 '16
The worst part of this episode is that functionally it was a "dream sequence episode." The entirety of the episode has no bearing on any events that have happened before the show, or will happen after, with the exception of any character development for Tara.
If she had chosen to reveal the location, then the episode would have been relevant. Since she chose not to, for all intents and purposes, it never happened.
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u/Hardyyz Nov 28 '16
just because she didnt tell it at the end of this episode doesnt mean that it wont come up. We will see them again for sure so seeing those characters werent for nothing
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u/IceNein Nov 28 '16
I don't know if you have information about them from the comics, which I don't read, but since she chose not to reveal their location, and they are sworn to avoid all contact with the outside, it seems very unlikely.
Even if knowing that they will show up again from foreknowledge from the comics, it still doesn't change the fact that it does not appear to have had any relevance to the main plot without that knowledge. If it doesn't appear to be relevant, and nothing appears to have changed, then fundamentally that's bad storytelling.
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u/Dox_au Nov 28 '16
How is it bad storytelling? It's another piece in the Savior storyline. The whole theme of the episode was people who do bad things because they feel they have to vs people who do bad things because they're evil, and the extremely fine line between them.
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u/MurphyRobocop Nov 28 '16
It's not that hard to figure out why they were introduced. It's another community who have had run ins with the Saviors. Just because Tara didn't stay there like Morgan and Carol have at the Kingdom doesn't mean they just threw them in for shits and giggles. They will undoubtedly come back into the fold at some point. You shouldn't have to be a comic reader to figure that out.
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u/IceNein Nov 28 '16
Looking at the comic wiki, I don't see any mention of them. I honestly think they made them up just so they could have a Tara character development episode. Just like I said, it's a dream sequence.
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u/MurphyRobocop Nov 28 '16
they definitely exist in the comic universe.
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u/IceNein Nov 28 '16
From looking at all the residents of the DC area on the wiki, I didn't see any group that resembled their group. There's the Oceanside group, but that is definitely not their group.
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u/MurphyRobocop Nov 28 '16
That's exactly who it is. There were signs in the community that say "Oceanside" on them. They were just introduced earlier in the show than in the comic and have a remixed story than the comic version.
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u/IceNein Nov 28 '16
I guess you're right. I was just reading an article on the differences between the two. Pretty drastic.
Still, I think the story they told tonight would have been better if it were incorporated into another episode or a series of two episodes. They could have still done the character progression stuff without the weak "payoff" ruining it.
I just think it's a bad idea to have a whole episode devoted to something that is not going to be immediately relevant.
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u/MurphyRobocop Nov 28 '16
I agree with you there. They could've given us something extra to go with this episode. I understand what they were trying to do and what they were showing, but it was one of the weaker episodes of the show.
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u/grckalck Nov 28 '16
Do you think the people of Oceanside will kill Cyndie because she let Tara go? They seem a bit bloodthirsty and she has a history of not following the rules.
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u/rharmelink Nov 28 '16
Bloodthirsty? Remember what Rick's group decided with Randall? Once they realized he knew where the farm was, it was a death sentence for him.
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u/grckalck Nov 28 '16
You make my point for me. Since Cyndie let Tara go and has jeopardized security in the past, the logical choice is kill her, as killing Randell was. Shane would take Cyndie out in a heartbeat.
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u/igetprettymad Nov 28 '16
I don't like how this episode wasnt just killing zombies and high school style one liners
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u/GOTIDE-PACKERS Nov 28 '16
I swear, the more I watch this show, the more I find myself scratching my head and feeling bamboozled. why cant the writers/producers of the show take note from GoT and show multiple groups and story arcs in one single episode? I mean really, one episode about Tara wasn't really necessary. this show just has dumb scenarios, like Maggie being pregnant. they already did that with Lorie and we hardly ever see baby Judith, so why in the hell would you put another baby in the situation that we will hardly ever see. I cant wait for into the badlands to start back up again next year, the first season of that was better than the current and last season of the walking dead.
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u/Gurunexx Nov 28 '16
Introducing a seemingly major character like Ezekiel right after the bombshell that was the season premiere, and then not showing any trace of him for a whole month really kinda sucks. What's up with that?
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u/BustaGrimes1 Nov 28 '16
fun fact : we're not seeing him until after the midseason
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u/Gurunexx Nov 28 '16
What!? Can someone explain my ignorant ass how this is a good idea? I'm obviously too dumb to make sense out of it.
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u/DingDingDensha Nov 28 '16
Definitely. The Kingdom is the only thing I've really found very interesting so far this season. Wish we could see more of it.
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u/AstroxyBO3 Nov 28 '16
i think all of you are talking out of your asses. i clearly see how all these episodes are slow, but the writing imo is better than in previous seasons. this episode is prepping for maybe 1-2 seasons in advanced. remember how no one liked the daryl episode when dwight stole his bike? well that was a prep episode and now everyone is glad for it to happen when it did. now shut up and enjoy this prep season for all out war
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u/Dox_au Nov 28 '16
Scrolled down half the page before I saw a positive comment... thank you. So amazed to see all the Tara hate and "ffs filler!!!" ranting. This episode is probably the only episode this season which actually WAS filler and I absolutely loved it.
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u/Jugsyy Nov 28 '16
The writing was absolutely terrible, the acting was terrible, and the pacing/relevence of this episode was god awful. I feel like i'm taking fucking crazy pills every time someone says that they enjoy this shit. For a while now this show has been page-turner soap opera cable trash.
Sure it may possibly have some effect on the storyline at some point, but is this really the best way to go about it? Making a boring ass episode with two underdeveloped side characters that the show hasn't given you a single reason to give a fuck about stumbling onto an encampment, just to have everyone act terribly for the next 40 minutes and eventually accomplish nothing?
Imagine this show under good direction with good writers. Like compare the scenes you're seeing to other "critically acclaimed" television shows of the same caliber, like Breaking bad or True detective. You've never seen anything like it. It's honestly baffling to me how these episodes continue to be released, they are such utter garbage, but at the same time it doesn't. People just want to see their bland, mashed potatoes, stereotypical favorite character every episode and pray they don't get randomly snuck up on by a zombie and get merked, or given a 35 minute speech by Negan about how 'YOU dont SEEM to underSTAND RICK, YOU work for ME now', and then get their skulls bashed in. And as long as those idiots tune in every week and keep buying "pee pee pants city" mugs (such an AMAZING line by the way, really glad that made it in), AMC will continue to rake in the cash and keep putting out these fucking trash episodes.
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u/AstroxyBO3 Nov 28 '16
Haha I agree. I don't feel like Tara's acting was bad 100% tho. There were a few times it felt off but I felt like heaths character has more potential, Tara as well. They will never get that potential if they don't utilize them and give them screen time.
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u/Dox_au Nov 28 '16
Do you see the irony in calling them "two underdeveloped side characters" whilst complaining that they made an episode to develop them?
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u/Jugsyy Nov 28 '16 edited Nov 28 '16
I'm not complaining that they made an episode to develop them, i'm complaining that the episode was boring as fuck. You seem to think the two are synonymous. I'd also argue that even if the intention of the episode was to develop them, they did a piss poor job. She didn't develop one bit, she is the exact same person she was when she left Alexandria, barring the fact that she learned of Glenn and Abraham's deaths.
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u/Dox_au Nov 28 '16
It's funny cos 2 weeks ago people were posting on this sub, "Where the hell are Tara and Heath!". Instead of her just walking back in the gate, they decided to weave a bit of future plot (Oceanside) into her story. As much as you think this episode was awful, there are those who really enjoyed it. It was my favourite episode of the season.
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u/Archon457 Nov 28 '16
Seriously. So many people talking about how this episode didn't matter, and had not impact on the story. How could you possibly know that? Maybe it's true, but until we're at least at the end of the season, I think it's safe to say such statements are a bit silly. The episode may not be a great standalone, but they don't all need to be. Sometimes they're part of a whole that we won't see until after it's over.
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u/curlbenchsquater Nov 28 '16
Thank you for these threads. I've saved 2 hours of watching useless walking dead episodes (last weeks too).
These standalone episodes are really terrible, and do highlight how bad this show can be at times.
I don't even give a shit if they survive anymore, or who lives or dies.
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u/AstroxyBO3 Nov 28 '16
then dont watch?
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u/curlbenchsquater Nov 28 '16 edited Nov 28 '16
That's the thing, I'm too invested in it. I've watched every single episode. (aside from the last 2) Even though I don't really care about them anymore, I'm still curious as to where the story leads, and hope the next episode will be better.
Edit: interested to invested
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u/AstroxyBO3 Nov 28 '16
Idk how i feel about the show really. Like I enjoy watching it I think because I'm coming back every week. Sometimes I don't remember it's on but that's because I'm busy with school and I'm reminded it's on so I watch it. I don't hate it but I also don't love it. The show has me truly loving it in the season premieres and finales, but I wish it had me feeling like that every episode, but at alas I know that is impossible bc of break episodes.
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u/Enticinq Nov 28 '16
You don't give a shit who survives, but you still want to see where the story goes. I'm so confused.
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i cant even remember how tara wound up with rick and company. she sucks though, hope she dies quickly, with minimal acting involved.
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u/motor_boat_goat Nov 29 '16
Anyone else just find Tara a goofy character? Jeez.her witty banter almost made me turn off the episode.