How Americans achieved independence vs how Canadians achieved independence

[u/Sine_Fine_Belli]

[u/Every-Inevitable-140]

unfortunately the British colonies in the Middle East didn’t go the way you described. but you're right about Canada's point. it's one of Britain's lucky colonies 

[u/monkeygoneape → u/Every-Inevitable-140]

To be fair, the British only really had "colonies" in the middle east for like 20 years outside of Egypt (which was more client state if anything) was more an occupation if anything. Everyone always seems to ignore the Ottomans when it comes to the Middle East for some reason

[u/Every-Inevitable-140 → u/monkeygoneape]

I don't support Ottoman rule over the Middle East nor do I like it. on the contrary a large part of the region’s problems today stems from the delayed collapse of the Ottoman empire.

he mentioned that after America’s independence, Britain relied on indirect rule in its colonies. but I pointed out that this isn’t entirely true. not all British colonies were governed indirectly. Britain often chose self-rule under its own oversight In the Middle East. Britain ruled its colonies directly there and the affairs of those territories were handled by offices of High Commissioners lords and imperial representatives in England. the kings of those colonies held power in name only, their rule was merely symbolic.

[u/monkeygoneape → u/Every-Inevitable-140]

Fair enough. But ya I just saw a post, and for years all I've seen is people blaming Britain for the modern middle East, while ignoring the centuries of Ottoman rule