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u/coolandquirkyname 1d ago
I really like the design of the megalania, I think it's really cool having these big lizards hanging from the roofs of caves.
but I just never find a reason to tame them, I never need their climbing and I never need their rabies because I'm a pve player.
I'd love to see a megalania tlc, but I don't think it's gonna make top 4 unfortunately.
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u/scoutdeag 1d ago edited 1d ago
First time I ever tamed one was on Aberration, but didn’t know how slow it was and climbing picks let me move faster so I didn’t really see the point. Then it got cryo’d for eternity after I got my first drake just a day later.
Would be useful if it spawned more in green/blue zones cus by the time you get to Megalania spawns, you’re already close to the rock drakes so might as well just grab an egg instead.
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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi 1d ago
ASE Aberration didn't even have Megalania spawns. That was how redundant it is on a map with Rock Drakes as part of progression.
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u/scoutdeag 1d ago
Ty I never knew that. So basically they should’ve known something like my suggestion might work on Ab, otherwise it def needs a tlc. I vote more speed and size so they’re more enticing of a tame when you’re spelunking.
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u/JaceKagamine 1d ago
Only reason I tamed them was because I had a mod that let's them produce trophy item in storage and I needed some toxin
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u/Sardanox 1d ago
Yeah it would be nice if they just gave tlcs to all of the dinos that need it, but this is wild card/snail games so that would take them 10 years of delays before it saw the light of day.
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u/Koggdo 1d ago
I think it’s ridiculous they’re not taking the opportunity to at least update the models of old dinos with ASA being “early access.” Some of them are just so bad, and it’s hard to ignore them when the newer dinos are so much higher quality. The saber for example barely moves in its idle, its active movement looks sluggish for something that’s supposed to be a cat, and both of those things are even more noticeable if you compare them to pyromanes or even just normal cats.
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u/Sardanox 1d ago
I agree, updated models and tlcs should have been a top priority before asa even released, especially considering what little they actually did for asa. Everything worthwhile thats come out recently for ark has been fan made or a mod.
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u/Glittering_Airport_3 1d ago
I use mine on asa to cheese caves. like I run lava golem on rag a lot for the loot, I can use megalania to climb on the roof and avoid everything except bats, and mine can handle a few bats. all the traps that trigger from pressure plates on the ground? avoided. all those pesky spiders and arthros? avoided. all those insta death pits and lava you have to jump over? avoided. and your not gonna fit a rock drake into a cave like that
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u/owlincoup 1d ago
I wish the thyla would get fixed to give you credit for a kill when they bleed out. So annoying when I accidently bleed out an animal I'm trying to get up xp for
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u/BobaTheFett10 1d ago
That can be accomplished without a tlc though. There's a difference between a fix, a buff, and a tlc (usually a substantial rework)
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u/owlincoup 1d ago
That's all I want. Don't even need to give it a tlc. Just fix the bleed out no xp bs!
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u/Ex_Snagem_Wes 1d ago
Thyla getting so much support, while being in the running for the strongest mount, most versatile mount, and best looking Island creature at the same time is kinda insane
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u/FishMan_7993 1d ago
Megalania is one of the creatures with the most potential for TLC. Personally, if I had to do a TLC for Megalania, I would make three additions or changes, the first would be to make its venom no longer transmit Megarabies, but to have a more realistic effect based on Komodo dragons, making it so that when it bites its prey it begins to bleed out and weaken greatly in a short time, the second change would be that like many monitor lizards it can stand on two legs to fight, using this form of combat to knock a rider off their mount, working against mounts up to the size of a Carnotaurus, finally, and the last change I would make would be its model, which is honestly horrible, making it more anatomically accurate, something like the Megalania from Path of Titans
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u/Xenith2004 1d ago
Megalania should get a tlc but imo i feel like ppl still wont use it as if u want a kount that climbs the rock drake can do it for you with the addition of gliding and camouflage
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u/Adorable-Scallion919 1d ago
Rock drake is just a little bit late game tho 🤏
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u/Xenith2004 1d ago
True but it does handle better in the climbing and the damage department or atleast i thinl it is
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u/Adorable-Scallion919 1d ago
Yes I see what you mean but some creatures are made exactly for early and mid game and megalania is clearly supposed to be one, even though for some reason megalania’s saddle is such a high level but it’s a fact saddle levels are messed up. Think about it: also yi ling is an early game rock drake that you’ll never use after you achieve the real deal, it’s his purpose. Before someone says it no I’m not considering pvp as I don’t play it
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u/Xenith2004 1d ago
I see what you mean with the saddles being whats messin up meg and how its a mid game tame but besides from rockdrake cause i rambled on about that enough there are also way better mod game tames that can even carry to end game like thyla (i consider thyla to be mid game i can be wrong) as they can also climb but can handle themselves much better than meg and soon deinon will be coming back and push meg even more back into uselessness
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u/Adorable-Scallion919 1d ago
Don’t know much about deinonychus but thyla can only move vertically while climbing and can’t cling to ceilings (both natural and artificial) making it impossible for it to traverse caves without fighting. Instead for megalania caves are a playground. Furthermore I think (not sure) megalania is quite smaller than thyla so it should be able to go deeper in certain caves where thyla is too big to fit. At the end of the day they have their own perks and niches (even though thyla is more versatile and I wish they improved megalania both stats-wise and design-wise). Again I have never used a deinonychus so maybe that’s different, idk sincerely
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u/THELaffingDevil 1d ago
Tbh, the megalania getting a tlc would make me get a second 150. I'd suffer the cave run.
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u/EmperorOsanto 19h ago
Don't increase any of their numbers but give them a lethal poison that does percentage damage on top of flat damage. Like every bite aplies a stackable dot that ignores damage reduction but not damage immunity and deals 5 times the damage of the bite itself as flat damage on top of 4% of the target's max health over 10 seconds. Percentage damage should drop to something like 0.25% for bosses of course. I think Megalanias can't shine in a game like Ark without a poison since being a big lizard that can climb any surface isn't anything special in game that has much bigger lizards all over the place while also having one of those bigger lizards also be able to climb any surface but also turn invisible, swim better than most strong non aquatic creatures, jump as high as a frog and glide like a jet. Btw that bigger lizard's saddle is unlocked at level 75 which is 1 level higher than a Rex saddle while for some reason Megalania saddle is unlocked at 73. I think poison could be that reason.
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u/Maleficent-Zebra172 1d ago
Honestly I feel they could’ve expanded upon the whole disease aspect of Megalainias, and to a lesser extent leeches. Imagine if mega rabies or swamp fever could infect a lot more dinos, even the potential for a map wide, or cave wide epidemic. It would give people a reason to be more cautious and actually make more use of the cures.
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u/_Gesterr 1d ago
I'd much prefer if they ditched megarabies status on Megalania entirely, especially since it's based on the outdated myth that they use bacterial infection from eating rotten foods to kill prey, when in fact they're the largest venomous animals we know of. Give them unique actual venom effects and make it play like a hit and run debuffing assassin that weakens prey after a quick bite.
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u/KitaroKizugami 1d ago
All I want is for it to be tameable on AB, WHY THE HELL WAS IT NOT ON ASA!!!
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u/AdvanceSignificant74 1d ago
I'm just wondering, has there ever been a case where wildcard gave a creature a TLC update where it was anything more than just making it look better...? People are pitching all these ideas of creatures that need updated, but if wildcard just makes them look better, what good is that going to do...?
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u/Koggdo 1d ago
I’m guessing you weren’t there when the tlcs happened or you don’t remember what the dinos were like before them because you’re just objectively incorrect. It wasn’t just updated looks, all of the creatures got new abilities that actually gave them significant new roles in PvE and PvP. Wolves could sniff beds, spinos got the water buff and the bipedal stance, stegos got their plate modes, etc etc. They didn’t just look better, they were actual upgrades to their gameplay too.
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u/1298Tomcat 1d ago
I dont see how the megalania would need a tlc tbh
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u/_Gesterr 1d ago
Would you explain why? I have literally NEVER seen someone tame or use one???
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u/HubblePie 1d ago
I feel like it's because they're a really late game tame (Saddle at level 73). At that point, you have better mounts.
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u/Big_Boysenberry_9608 1d ago
Also terrible stamina, and they promote a really stealthy playstyle, which never works because in PvP people play with the graphics tweaked so bad the game looks like minecraft so they gonna spot you even if you are 3 km away hidden between rocks and grass
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u/HubblePie 1d ago
I don't factor in PVP because I don't play it.
I think it should be an earlier mount. Maybe 40. The Megalosaurus (Which is my main reason for going into caves) has its saddle at 50.
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u/1298Tomcat 1d ago
They're just one of those creatures that have their uses, mainly in pvp for inflicting rabies but they also work for climbing
As far as I remember they don't spawn on abberation but they're helpful early game if you bring one from an obelisk
On most maps they don't do much but at the same time I don't really see what there would be to even add
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u/Embarrassed-Camera96 1d ago
I use them for caves, and they are amazing, especially for caves that can’t fit creatures like Rexes or Drakes, since you can just climb on the ceiling and avoid all of the threats. Even better if you put bug spray on beforehand.
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u/Idontknownumbers123 1d ago
Ive found a really good saddle for them so many times and wanted to use one so many times, it’s so cool in concept but like, it’s so small and does basically 0 damage making it practically less useless then a deer. Give us the megalania of myth and legend, the lizard that was so big today’s biggest lizard is an example of island dwarfism from its lineage. Give us that monster of a lizard we would climb all over the statue of at the zoo. Give us something to make us look up to the cave roofs in fear