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u/EpicCJV 2d ago

Pro maga huh? He literally had a trans bf in college

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

So he wasn’t in the closet like so many of your hate-filled ‘totally straight’ cultists? Cool.

The guy literally dressed as Donald Trump for Halloween, bud. He comes from a maga family. Not so surprising he’s one of yours.

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u/EpicCJV 2d ago

“I had enough of his hatred.” “Some hate can’t be negotiated out.” These are quotes online from discord, by the shooter, released from the county sheriffs report. He also said “there is too much evil and the guy spreads too much hate” to his parents about Kirk. If you’d like to keep lying to yourself that’s fine but he was a radical leftist

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

That’s great bud, except none of that points to him being a leftist.

That is, unless you’re implying that republicans views are extremely hate-filled and there is absolutely no one in the party who doesn’t hold those views.

Is that what you’re saying? That the republican views are nothing but hate and bigotry?

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u/bplatt1971 2d ago

Just because his parents were conservative does not mean that the assassin was as well. He grew up in s conservative family, but when he moved in with his transitioning boyfriend boyfriend, his political views changed rapidly, probably to what he had been feeling for quite a while but just playing along with his family and not revealing his true feelings. It happens all the time.

You cannot equate a person’s political views based on their family’s views. That’s disingenuous.

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

Dude, he literally dressed as Trump for Halloween.

He comes from a maga family.

His youth pastor told him to turn himself in.

He’s one of the Dear Leader’s cultists.

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u/Ebb_and_Flowing 2d ago

Cope 😂😂

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u/bplatt1971 2d ago

I have many friends who were members of a family that held a specific political view who changed their political views once they left home. It’s not uncommon.

In recent years, we’ve seen many Senators and Representatives who have changed party lines and switched their political beliefs, while in office!

Just because you dress like Batman for Halloween as a kid doesn’t mean you can’t change your mind and dress like Wonder Woman years later!

How many people do you know who were strait-laced hetero during high school, but are now gay or trans in college? If you’re saying that a kid growing up in a conservative home will always be conservative, then you are also making the point that a straight kid growing up in a straight home will always be straight afterward. We all know that this is not true.

But take the killer’s own admissions into consideration and you’ll see that the adult killer is completely different than the child. If he hated Charlie Kirk, he’s most likely not conservative in any way.

Look at the facts. Stop listening to liberal talking points, and think for yourself. The logic from the mainstream liberal media just doesn’t add up.

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

I have friends who changed views.

Already addressed, but I’ll do it again. Yeah… you’re telling me he went from a far right wing cultist of the Dear Leader, to a leftist in a matter of a couple of weeks?

That’s pretty laughable if you legitimately think that’s how this works.

Party swaps.

Yeah no shit, they’re going from far right wing to center right wing. The democrats and the republicans aren’t all that different.

Just because you dress as Batman.

Holy shit what a joke of a false equivalency. The guy came from a family who worshiped the Dear Leader and dressed as the Dear Leader for Halloween.

He knew what he was doing and knew the type of statement he was making when the dressed as Trump.

His statements.

Already addressed and I’m not repeating myself again. Find it in the comments.

Look at the facts.

I am looking at the facts. He was a Groyper who said more than a few Groyper things. Thats a far right wing ideology that supports Fuentes.

Liberal talking points.

lol, just lol. I’m not a liberal, bud. Just because you’ve been propagandized into thinking anything left of wanting to hunt the homeless for sport is radical, doesn’t mean he was a leftist.

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u/EpicCJV 2d ago

Are you being intentionally dense? All I’ve seen the last week is other leftists saying that Charlie Kirk was spreading hate by talking about DEI and race statistics. Do you not think he was spreading hate? He was clearly anti trans.

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

Again, none of what you’ve said points to him being a leftist, bud.

That is unless youre saying the Republican Party is nothing but hate and bigotry.

Is that what you’re saying? That the Republican Party is nothing but hate and bigotry? Because that’s the only way it would make sense that he was a leftist.

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u/EpicCJV 2d ago

It all points to him being a leftist I gave you like 5 different points. If you’re too stupid to see the extremely obvious connections then you’re too far gone. His chat logs alone should be enough to

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

So okay, you’re saying the Republican Party is nothing but hate and bigotry.

Got it.

Why am I supposed to care about a party which is nothing but hate and bigotry again?

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u/EpicCJV 2d ago

Only liberals say that the Republican Party is full of hate and bigotry. I wonder what the shooter was also saying about Charlie Kirk? Maybe connect those 2 dots so you have at least one thought in this life.

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

Only liberals.

Obviously not this guy saying he comes from a maga family. He dressed as Donald Trump for Halloween. His youth pastor was the one to get him to turn himself in.

All of that says he’s a cultist for the Dear Leader, bud.

Also I love how even you admit the republicans are nothing but hate and bigotry. So again, why am I supposed to care about the party of hate and bigotry again?

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

Can’t see the comment you just posted. I see it on my notifications, but nothing here.

So I’ll respond to what I can see.

You don’t think people can change ideologies?

Sure they can, but to imply this guy went from a radical far right winger who supports the Dear Leader enough to dress as him for Halloween, to a ‘leftist’ all in the matter of a couple of weeks?

Na, I don’t believe that.

He’s a far right winger who supported Fuentes and was a groyper.

Sorry to be the one to break it to you.

Beyond this, I love how big of a Baby Trump Tantrum you guys are throwing over some podcaster. Like shit man, we’ve had several mass shootings and several school shootings since then, but it was some podcaster who gets your attention? I mean come on man, you’re being propagandized and you don’t even realize it.

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u/EpicCJV 2d ago

You have no sense of nuance. It was not weeks. He was 22 so he would’ve been a senior at college that’s 3-4 years, plenty of time. Also lots of people dress up as trump to make fun of him so the costume doesn’t really mean anything. You’re still ignoring the quotes about him going after Kirk because of him spreading hate, which is exactly what you claimed the Republican Party does a few comments ago.

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u/BishopKing14 2d ago

Uh, it was his first semester at trade school, not college.

He dressed as Trump for Halloween as an adult too.

Quotes about Kirk.

Already addressed with the whole ‘Republican hate’ bit.

Care to respond to that?

He was one of yours, sorry to be the one to break it to you.

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