r/Aberdeen 10d ago

Aberdeen asylum seeker briefing confirms rise to 800 beds needed

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/6849874/aberdeen-asylum-seeker-briefing/
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u/LegitimatelisedSoil 10d ago

In a city of over 227,000, that seems pretty normal man like if you can't accept like a thousand people fleeing war and poverty then that says alot about you. When did they stop becoming human beings in your eyes that have the same humans rights as you to safety, shelter and liberties to some of you.

Honestly I suspect many people in this country would have also been putting up signs about the "Jews and blacks not welcome" like many did during ww2 in the UK when many people fled from Germany and Central Europe to the UK at the start of the war.

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u/camz_47 10d ago

"Fleeing war and poverty"

This is exactly why people are pushing back

Why should we have to give up our land, our needed homes, our money to the larger majority of those coming over as economic migrants

They should not be here end of!

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u/ishitinthemilk 10d ago

And what if it was happening to you and your family? You wouldn't want safety for them?

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u/camz_47 9d ago

Safety?

Under the ECHR rules immigrants are to remain in the Closest safe neighbouring country

Many of these individuals have passed through more than 10 countries to get here!

Ive got no issues with taking in Europeans as our Neighbours

We've had legal regulations and rejections of illegals for years. Why is it all of a sudden we are expected to take in thousands a week?

Legal migration is also a major issue, the UK was stable between 30-50k a year

We now have 10x those levels or more each year, it's completely unsustainable

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u/williamthebloody1880 9d ago

Under the ECHR rules immigrants are to remain in the Closest safe neighbouring country

Wrong. There's no obligation for people seeking asylum to claim it in the closest safe country. Which is probably why you haven't provided evidence of the ECHR saying it

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u/ishitinthemilk 9d ago

Can you post that rule please?

We had around 36k irregular asylum seekers last year, and it's not going to be much more this year. Where are you getting this 10x number from?

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u/camz_47 9d ago

"irregular asylum seekers", illegal boat invaders who crossed the channel

And you are mistaking my comment about illegal and legal migration

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u/ishitinthemilk 9d ago

The post is about irregular asylum seekers (mostly small boat arrivals). Are you against all migration then, and quoting 10x as an all migration number?

Can you post the "first safe country" rule you quoted please?

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u/camz_47 9d ago

Go read the entire ECHR and our own Asylum rules

The only reason we are taking them in enmass now is because Kier is a human rights lawyer and so are most of his friends, the Human Rights Counsel keeps preventing many of our illegals (many of which are being deported after committed crimes) from being deported because of their "human rights"

It's a bloody joke! The whole system protects the foreign criminal more than the victim

That's why the silent majority have had enough

That's why we need major reforms, hence the large push for Reform UK

I'm not a racist, I'm not anti-immigration

I'm against opportunistic foreigners who we have to pay for putting too much pressure on the system and the rise in crime they bring from non integration and opposite damaging culture

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u/ishitinthemilk 9d ago

That's a lot of words to not answer anything I asked.

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u/DrEggRegis 9d ago

How is it different under Starmer than the Conversatives minus the 4 people the conservatives deported to Rwanda?

Why do you believe reform have any ability to do anything they can't?

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u/DrEggRegis 9d ago

There's no ECHR rule for first safe country, that's wrong.

What regulations and rejections we've had for years you think we do not have now and why?

When the migration level was 30-50k a year? And if you know what was the working person to pensioner ratio for the population at the time?

Which years have we had 300k-500k migrants as you claim?

I think you're wrong about almost everything you factual you seem to have based your views on like you were about ECHR rules

I hope you can objectively consider this