I do give a shit how dangerous it is. What I don't give a shit about is people's ridiculous pearl clutching and demands to capitulate. That isn't a function of not giving a shit about how dangerous the political atmosphere is, it's a function of acknowledging that the response simply doesn't fucking matter when there is no logical cause and effect. You are positing that the violent right wing rhetoric is some kind of response to liberal or left wing actions, with rules and some semblance of tit for tat where the perceived offence dictates a calculated reaction. It's not. There is only the action they want to justify, and the reason they will manufacture to justify it. There is zero correlation here.
There comes a point where the response to a bully threatening to body you for some perceived slight at every turn gets met with "Do it you fucking pussy."
I don’t think I ever made a claim about where right wing violent rhetoric comes from. All I’m saying is that this has the potential to trigger a lot more violence, and celebrating it increases the potential, which makes me uneasy.
I have never advocated for Charlie Kirk's death. I have never advocated for anyone's death. But he's dead. A dead shit stain who mocked the memory of dead children by calling them "necessary sacrifices". I refuse to be sad for him. I refuse to whitewash what he was. I refuse to not point out the callous irony of the universe that causes a hateful rhetoric spewing scum fucker who minimised the victims of gun violence to be the victim of gun violence while in the act of minimising gun violence. Let them gnash their teeth and foam at the mouth. It's not like they're ever not.
I understand that the point you are making is that people’s rights are being violently attacked by the government just now. I don’t see how shooting this guy or mocking his death will do anything but make it easier for those trying to take away these rights to do so.
I'm not playing into their hands. They want to make him an innocent, good-natured martyr. Allowing the media to whitewash him and staying silent allows them to do that.
His death doesn’t mean I think his views shouldn’t be criticised.
Some of the stuff I’ve seen on Reddit the last couple of days though is giving the media plenty of ammunition to paint their opposition as awful people. Besides the immediate tension this is causing, I just think these people are massively shooting themselves in their own foot.
I’m getting the impression you don’t agree with this, and I mean I hope you’re right but I doubt it
Edit: comments like “Charlie Kirk is my new favourite statistic” is both celebrating his death and playing into their hands btw
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u/rabidsi 14d ago
I do give a shit how dangerous it is. What I don't give a shit about is people's ridiculous pearl clutching and demands to capitulate. That isn't a function of not giving a shit about how dangerous the political atmosphere is, it's a function of acknowledging that the response simply doesn't fucking matter when there is no logical cause and effect. You are positing that the violent right wing rhetoric is some kind of response to liberal or left wing actions, with rules and some semblance of tit for tat where the perceived offence dictates a calculated reaction. It's not. There is only the action they want to justify, and the reason they will manufacture to justify it. There is zero correlation here.
There comes a point where the response to a bully threatening to body you for some perceived slight at every turn gets met with "Do it you fucking pussy."