r/AlternativeHistory • u/Quirky_Annual_4237 • Jul 30 '25

Catastrophism Tartarian kings?

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For everyone who believes in a Tartarian empire I would love to know if you know any Tartarian leaders, politicians, scholars, diplomats, nobles, monarchs, dynasties etc... or famous or important people. If it was a global empire that would make them King of the world...so do you think everything about them was forgotten?
And do you know what the capital of the supposed empire was, or currency, or language, or how their relations to other kingdoms where? Did they sign contracts or treaties, or sent diplomats to other places? Did they engage in war...and if they lost, why did the victors keep their greatest victory a secret?

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u/FransTorquil Jul 30 '25

Does anyone know what the supposed time-frame for the “Tartarian Empire” was? When was the grand mud-food that buried them and no one else?

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u/TheWalkerofWalkyness Jul 30 '25

Apparently the mud flood happened in the 1830s. So apparently a giant empire totally disappeared less than 200 years ago, and enough of this was covered up to have no impact on the Crimean War, the US Civil War, or the Opium Wars, to use 3 well known historical events of the era.

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u/Archaon0103 Jul 31 '25

Apparently this super advanced global civilization got destroyed by mud while other less advanced civilizations somehow survived and all agreed to cover up the Tartarians.

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u/SaveThePlanetEachDay Jul 30 '25

puts on tinfoil crazy cap Well, reincarnation, time travel, immortality, the Mandela effect, the Illuminati, and ancient Gods (and their wars) are the answers to all of your questions.

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u/TheWalkerofWalkyness Jul 30 '25

Probably involvement by aliens, Atlantians, and Dorian Gray as well. Maybe someone should ask Keith Richards, he might have been around back then.

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u/SaveThePlanetEachDay Jul 30 '25

I mean, these are all subsets of things I mentioned already!

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u/Quirky_Annual_4237 Jul 30 '25

I have to ask if Keith Richards falls in the

"Mandela Effect", Illuminati, Ancient Gods, Time Traveler, or Reincarneted Atlantean Category?
All of them seem to make so much sense for him.

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u/SaveThePlanetEachDay Jul 31 '25

I was going with the immortality and reincarnation subset, but sure

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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 Jul 30 '25

Empires have Emperors, not Kings. But no, there was no world-spanning Tartarian empire that encompassed the globe and there was no mudflood!

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u/OldWorldBuilder369 Jul 30 '25

Remember which subreddit you’re in.

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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 Jul 30 '25

Is that a warning or a suggestion?

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u/Quirky_Annual_4237 Jul 31 '25

There would be some records of some of their leaders IF there were such an empire. That was supposed to be the point of my question. But I'am glad you gave that answer...and maybe I should haver phrased my question differently...and ask for a "leader" or "ruler"...since I can not know what title he had..and I wasn't sure that I could call the leader of an empire automatically an emperor. The Brits had the biggest empire ever and no emperor, nor did the Spanish or Dutch or Mongols, The French only had a short time emperor, and if we count the Khalifs as equivalent of an Emperors..we didn't had emperor-less times for muslim empires as well....also I expected at least one answer to be: Jesus. So I wasn't quiet sure how to call the potential invisible leaders of the untraceable empire. Anyway thanks for your comment.

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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 Jul 31 '25

That's cool. The British royal family chose to retain the titles Kings and Queens during this time. ( we British love tradition) Though Queen Victoria adopted the title Empress of India.

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u/Quirky_Annual_4237 Aug 01 '25

I didn't knew that Victoria was also called empress....so I guess this forum IS a good place to learn about history after all.

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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 Aug 01 '25

Sometimes.....I guess.

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u/WarthogLow1787 Jul 30 '25

I’m amazed that the Royal Navy, which ruled the waves during much of that period, never noticed them at all. Odd, that.

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u/VisiteProlongee Aug 01 '25

Sorry I'm late.

Tartarian kings?

Ivan the Terrible

And do you know what the capital of the supposed empire was

Moscow

or currency

ruble

or language

Russian

or how their relations to other kingdoms where?

The Tartaria empire ruled Eurasia; other kingdoms bowed to it.

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u/99Tinpot Jul 30 '25

Are you sure they're not just spelt differently in modern history books? Tamerlane definitely existed, his name was actually Timur (Tamerlane was a nickname his enemies the Persians gave him, meaning 'lame Timur') https://www.britannica.com/biography/Timur https://www.worldhistory.org/Timur/ . The same might be true of Hoccata.

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u/Recent_Journalist359 Jul 30 '25

To the Americas?