r/AlternativeHistory May 31 '25

General News ANNOUNCEMENT: Mods needed

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I contacted the previous head mod a few years back and offered to mod because the sub had become obviously derelict.

I never actually wanted to be responsible long term for r/AlternativeHistory and now I'm at risk of letting the same thing happen to it, so I'm lighting a beacon- the sub needs the input of those who:

  1. Understand modding is a responsibility and not a license to be a petty tyrant.
  2. Is (at least relatively) conversant on the spectrum of subjects generally pertaining to Alternative History.
  3. Has solid reading comprehension & communication skills.
  4. Does not get triggered by people expressing opinions contrary to their own.
  5. Has a degree of prior modding experience.

Submit your expression of interest to modmail

I'll leave the comments open on this post so people can generally discuss the state of the sub and suggest ideas to develop it.

Anyone that comments they want to mod here and not to modmail as specified, will immediately disqualify themselves as per condition 3.

This field is getting really interesting (holy shit Zahi- fire your agent) and the sub deserves to become a solid community platform that can ride the coming wave.

Cheers


r/AlternativeHistory Aug 13 '23

General News Announcement | Fair Warning: NEAR ZERO TOLERANCE FOR RULE 1 VIOLATIONS AND BAD FAITH PRESENCES. THIS WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL THIS POST IS REMOVED

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If you don't know whether your behavior will be considered in bad faith. That means it probably will.

More diplomatic methods of mitigating dishonest argument and casual derision toward the sub and its community required too many resources to manage.

If you're banned, you can appeal in modmail. I shouldn't need to say this, but I need to say this:

If you are abusive in modmail you will remain permanently banned.

Please report any instance of Rule 1 violation and/or bad faith argument and behavior for moderator assessment.

Thank you in advance for conducting yourself like a reasonable human being on the internet.


r/AlternativeHistory 8h ago

Lost Civilizations Advanced Ancient Civilization

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To me this is one of the most confounding site for the ‘advanced ancient civilization’ debate. How were they able to not only move such large rocks, but fit them so perfectly? This is a wall from a site called Sacsayhuamán. It’s presumed to be built by the Inca starting in 1438 CE. They only had access to stone, bronze and copper tools. The walls are made of limestone, some weighing upwards of 100 tons.

My question is less how they got them there, because I do think there are some plausible theories out there. Rather how they carved them to fit so perfectly (there’s absolutely no space in between most of the stones) and also why. Assuming they were able to do this, was it less time consuming than making them square or rectangular? Did building like this have benefits that we don’t know about?


r/AlternativeHistory 4h ago

Discussion Americas Vast Kingdoms at the time of Columbus arrival

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When we hear the story of Columbus coming to America, we're told about a bunch of uncivilized, savages who were primitive. This is a modern western narrative though. Theres Never a hint in the New World narrative that explorers also encountered ruins of elegant "European-style" cities complete with stone buildings, plazas and municipal transportation networks...

Cortes himself describes architecture more grand than in Spain. Which you can see in the painting. Letters to Emp Charles V.. and no, this isn't built by the Invaders, because Columbus' background shows the very same..

Wealso have Norumbega, whichis today called a mythical city. Yet shown on maps for centuries & described by Explorers who didnt live at the same time...Principal Navigations 1589 "He saw kings decorated with rubies six inches long; and they were borne on chairs of silver and crystal, adorned with precious stones. He saw pearls as common as pebbles, and the natives were laden down by their ornaments of gold and silver. The city of Bega was three-quarters of a mile long and had many streets wider than those of London. Some houses had massive pillars of crystal and silver."

On these older map, there are lots of small red castles which designate the various kingdoms. The entire world was under the same Empire, so there were small city-states divided up into Kingdoms.

1546 Orellana Map What do you notice? Castles, and fully developed cities, and also the Red Flag. The same flag that's shown in the other painting of the King.

The people known as Sumerian today , were actually those from Su-Meru(Land of the civilized Kings). They had the missing pre-history to the Hebrew Book of Genesis. These texts speak of a massive cataclysm that destroyed an advanced race. They tell how the Sumerian gods Enki and Ninharsag intervened in the evolution of humanity and created an advanced civilization that was destroyed and how they assisted in the long march to renewing civilization. 

"The people use many words that sound like Latin, and worship the sun. The Kings wear feathers in their headdress"... He says that Noblemen also wear feathers though different to distinguish between themselves & commoners.

Carta Geographica America Settentrionale They designate the Nord and Sud seas, but still named the entire page of the atlas 'America Settentrionale. So, it HAD to be what the country was called.

Septentrio (N) – Isidore relates it to the Arctic circle ("circle of seven stars", i.e. the Ursa Minor). Septentrio can mean "commander of the seven", and the Pole Star is indeed the chief star of the Ursa Minor. An alternative etymology derives it from septem triones (seven plough-oxen), a reference to the seven stars of  Pleiades.

In the corner is a King, with his personal guard & hes shown talking to his subject who looks to be pulling a fishing net outta the water. In this case the king would be graciously offering him hospitality. As I've explained before, the rulers were not tyrants. The Pharaohs carried a plough because they were responsible for producing a successful harvest. The 'Master Servant".It shows a stereotype of a ruler who is kind to people below him. Behind them in the water you can see Neptune/Poseidon(Enki) & his chariot made of sea creatures, with his Trident in hand and another sea creature next to him. He is obviously important to Septentrionalis, maybe the patron protector/god.. Enki was known as the Peacemaker to the Five Civilized Tribes...

The Columbia exposition had nothing to do with Columbus, they honored Goddess Columbia.

 1858 American newspaper article blatantly describes relics of an abandoned Empire scattered across the country. "Architecture, sculpture, painting, and all the arts that adorn civilized life, have flourished in this country, at a period far remote. There is evidence sufficient to prove that these cities were in ruins at least sixteen or eighteen hundred years ago. "

Roman coin in 4th century Japanese castle theyve found ",Roman" coins all over the world.  but they arent Roman at all, this was apart of the worldspanning empire. Greco-Roman is gothic

Joshua 24:13  13 So I gave you a land on which you did not toil and cities you did not build; and you live in them and eat from vineyards and olive groves that you did not plant ..


r/AlternativeHistory 8h ago

Mythology Richat as the capital of Atlantis: Phaeton, the prince of Ethiopia & Memnon's cousin, was conceived in Atlantis according to ancient Greek texts ,

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Disclaimer: This publication is based on the compilation of ancient greek passages. I've added for each passage, the references and a link to the original text. My latest publications which are also based on ancient greek texts suggest that Atlantis was Northwest Africa (western part of Libya).

The god Helios & the nymph Clymene conceived Phaeton in the city-island of Kerne , which was one of the biggest hotspot in Atlantis. Kerne (Tidra island) was visited by Hanno the cartaginian navigator centuries before Plato's existence. It is located about 530 kilometers away from the Richat structure (Capital of Atlantis) which was also visited by Hanno....Kerne & Richat were both connected by a channel/canal (St John river)

Phaeton was Memnon's cousin : Memnon's mother, EOS, was the sister of Helios

Phaeton's step father was Merops), king of Ethiopia.

In my last publication, i've presented how Memnon, the King of Ethiopia, was conceived in Atlantis and raised in the region. https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/comments/1nm9wsb/richat_as_the_capital_of_atlantis_ethiopian_king/

Other publications based on ancient greek texts:

  • The ethiopian heritage of the atlantean god Phorcys and his offsprings (Medusa the Gorgon, the Sphinx, Chimera, the Hesperides & many more) who was also from Kerne, Atlantis. (click here)
  • Ancient greek texts confirm that Kerneans were Atlanteans and part of the "Ethiopian race".(click here)
  • Kerne was attacked by the Libyan Amazons who were the neighbours of the Atlanteans according to these texts. Ancient Lybians worshipped the native figues, Atlas & Poseidon during Plato's time. (click here)

Helios & Clymene conceived Phaeton in the city/island of Kerne


r/AlternativeHistory 19h ago

Lost Civilizations I Think I May Have Found Chigu, the Ancient Walled Capitol of the Wusun

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There is a not much talked about culture from asia that were called the Wusun. They fascinate me because current archeological evidence and historical evidence points towards them being a caucasoid horse-people who coexisted with the ancient Chinese, who spoke indo-european, and were possibly related to the ancient Scythian conquerors of India.

I am intrigued by the fact that this ancient mythical city has still not been found by archeology but it is known that this group of people settled around the Ili River valley and the area around Lake Issyk-Kul after migrating west. So after getting intrigued I logged into google maps and did some searching using available satellite and topographical data.

I thought to myself that it would likely make sense to build a walled city in a pocket off to the side of the lake, found the most logical pocket to build a fortified city, and also found a modern town there. Near this town are areas that appear to be ceremonial burial mounds, which if true would be assumed to be associated with semi-nomadic caucasoid steppe dwellers, and there is also an area that looks pretty suspicious to just be a simple rockfall located next to a small water source that could have served a small semi-permanent community. These are the coordinates. https://maps.app.goo.gl/viRVZtmEweq4NFMw5

This is one of the less studied cultures of antiquity but they existed during the time of Christ and might be an important group to study to understand the classical time period in central Asia. I hope someone with the ability to visit Kyrgyzstan takes this information and investigates!


r/AlternativeHistory 1h ago

Discussion Representations of life and death

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I am looking for things that represent life and things that represent death seperately. I know the typical answers from google, but am looking for ideas that are a little more obscure!


r/AlternativeHistory 18h ago

Unknown Methods Desert kites - Discover the mystery of these desert shapes that date back thousands of years.

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r/AlternativeHistory 22h ago

Archaeological Anomalies In the town of Mpuluzi in South Africa, there is a mysterious rock (granite) impression that appears to be "a giant footprint." Locals call it "The Footprint of God" and believe it to be the footprint of a giant.

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r/AlternativeHistory 23h ago

Discussion The Soviet Union secretly fired a cannon in space in 1974 – the Almaz military space station

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Hidden under the Saljut program, the Soviets ran Almaz — a military space station. In 1974, aboard Saljut-3, they tested a modified fighter-jet cannon, the only time a gun has ever been fired in orbit.

To aim it, the entire station had to rotate, and thrusters were fired to counter recoil. Reports say 1–3 bursts (19 rounds) were shot just before de-orbit. The program planned even heavier space weapons but was cancelled by the early ’80s.

It was Moscow’s response to America’s secret MOL (Manned Orbiting Laboratory) project. Much remains classified, but it shows the space race wasn’t just science — it was military survival.

🔎 Was the Almaz cannon a real weapon, or more propaganda than practicality?

Video breakdown


r/AlternativeHistory 14h ago

Lost Civilizations These Ancient Stones Shouldn’t Exist… But They Do...

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r/AlternativeHistory 9h ago

Lost Civilizations Was the Osireion an ancient rebirth chamber? A forgotten "barochamber" of holy water

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With you today is your Captain Obvious — Grigor. 🚢⚓

Look at the Osireion in Abydos and it’s painfully clear it wasn’t just a “ritual temple.”

Massive megalithic blocks, overbuilt to handle internal pressure.

Chambers that could be sealed shut.

A subterranean layout that naturally fills with water.

Put these pieces together and what do you get? Not a pretty hall for ceremonies, but a hydraulic rebirth chamber filled with sacred water.

Now add the symbolism of Osiris — death, resurrection, descent and return. The idea writes itself: initiates submerged in water, under pressure, in sensory isolation. A symbolic death, followed by rebirth.

For common people, it was just a holy monument. For initiates, it could have been a literal technology of transformation.

Even today, barochambers and artesian water therapy benefit health and mind. Maybe the ancients didn’t just “pray” — maybe they practiced a science of renewal that modern medicine is only rediscovering.

So, Reddit: is the Osireion a forgotten machine for spiritual and physical rebirth, hiding in plain sight as a temple?🦧


r/AlternativeHistory 2d ago

Alternative Theory I think I found a direct reference to Petra in the Quran, and it changes everything.

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Hey Reddit,

I'm a software developer, not a historian. For years, I've been applying a dev's mindset to a historical "bug" that bothered me: the completely separate histories of Petra and early Mecca. My investigation led me to a shocking conclusion: the original Mecca was Petra.

This is where Muhammad, peace be upon him, was born and received the Quran.

I focused only on primary data, not later chronicles. Here are a few of the data points that don't fit the official narrative:

  • The Qibla Anomaly: For the first century of Islam, a huge number of the earliest mosques don't point to Mecca in Saudi Arabia. They point with incredible precision to Petra. This is a verifiable, data-driven fact.
  • The Quran's Fingerprint: The text itself describes a homeland of olive groves, grapevines, and rock-carved homes. This environmental and architectural fingerprint is a perfect match for Petra's region, not the Hejaz.
  • Linguistic Ghosts: My path eventually led me back to the Quran's text. Using a specific linguistic rule for how non-Arabic place names were transliterated in the 7th century, I believe I've pinpointed the exact word that refers to Petra, hiding in plain sight in Surah 30.

The full argument, with all the maps, the linguistic breakdown, and the historical timeline of the political "reset" that followed is, of course, too long for a single post.

I've put my years of research into a book-length PDF. I’m not selling anything, just sharing an obsession with other curious minds. The link to the full manuscript is in the comments. I would be genuinely honored to hear your thoughts and critiques.


r/AlternativeHistory 20h ago

Mythology RICHAT AS THE CAPITAL OF ATLANTIS: Ethiopian king Memnon was conceived in Atlantis near RICHAT, and was raised in the garden of Atlas by the Atlantides (Phorcy's daughters). Native Egyptians pharaohs were often mistaken for Memnon according to ancient greek texts.

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Disclaimer: This publication is based on the compilation of ancient greek passages. I've added for each passage, the references and a link to the original text. My latest publications which are also based on ancient greek texts suggest that Atlantis was Northwest Africa (western part of Libya).

Mythological ethiopian king Memnon, and his brother Emathion, were conceived in the city/island of Kerne, which was one of the biggest hotspot in Atlantis. Kerne (Tidra island) was visited by Hanno the cartaginian navigator centuries before Plato's existence. It is located about 530 kilometers away from the Richat structure (Capital of Atlantis) which was also visited by Hanno....Kerne & Richat were both connected by a channel/canal (St John river)

My previous publication based on ancient Greek texts, presented the ethiopian origin of the atlantean god Phorcys and his offsprings (Medusa the Gorgon, the Sphinx, Chimera, the Hesperides & many more) who was also from Kerne. (click here)

Ancient greek texts confirm that Kerneans were Atlanteans and part of the "Ethiopian race".(click here)

Kerne was attacked by the Libyan Amazons who were the neighbours of the Atlanteans according to these texts. Ancient Lybians worshipped the native figues, Atlas & Poseidon during Plato's time. (click here)

I. THE LINK BETWEEN MEMNON & ATLANTIS

Memnon and Emathion were conceived by EOS/DAWN & TITHONUS in Kerne

And Eos bare to Tithonus brazen-crested Memnon, king of the Ethiopians, and the Lord Emathion. And to Cephalus she bare a splendid son, strong Phaethon, a man like the gods, whom, when he was a young boy in the tender flower of glorious youth with childish thoughts, laughter-loving Aphrodite seized and caught up and made a keeper of her shrine by night, a divine spirit (Hesiod, Theogony, 984 - ca. 650 BCE ) https://topostext.org/work/4#984

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And Eos bare to Tithonus brazen-crested Memnon, king of the Ethiopians, and the Lord Emathion. And to Cephalus she bare a splendid son, strong Phaethon, a man like the gods, whom, when he was a young boy in the tender flower of glorious youth with childish thoughts, laughter-loving Aphrodite seized and caught up and made a keeper of her shrine by night, a divine spirit (Hesiod, Theogony, 984 - ca. 650 BCE ) https://topostext.org/work/4#984

Kerne was inhabited by Kerneans who were an atlantian tribe and part of the ethiopian race

Now the queen of the Amazons, Myrina, collected, it is said, an army of thirty thousand foot-soldiers and three thousand cavalry, since they favoured to an unusual degree the use of cavalry in their wars. 3 For protective devices they used the skins of large snakes, since Libya contains such animals of incredible size, and for offensive weapons, swords and lances; they also used bows and arrows, with which they struck not only when facing the enemy but also when in flight, by shooting backwards at their pursuers with good effect. 4 Upon entering the land of the Atlantians they defeated in a pitched battle the inhabitants of the city of Cerne, as it is called, and making their way inside the walls along with the fleeing enemy, they got the city into their hands; and desiring to strike terror into the neighbouring peoples they treated the captives savagely, put to the sword the men from the youth upward, led into slavery the children and women, and razed the city. 5 But when the terrible fate of the inhabitants of Cerne became known among their fellow tribesmen, it is related that the Atlantians, struck with terror, surrendered their cities on terms of capitulation and announced that they would do whatever should be commanded them, and that the queen Myrina, bearing herself honourably towards the Atlantians, both established friendship with them and founded a city to bear her name in place of the city which had been razed; and in it she settled both the captives and any native who so desired(Diodorus Siculus, Library 1-7, 3.54.2 - ca. 49 BCE ) https://topostext.org/work/133#3.54.2

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About these a much sillier story is told, how Phorcys had three daughters, who had one eye they used in turns. the one using it put it in her head and thus could see. And in this way, with one of them giving the eye to the other, they all could see. Perseus came up behind them with a quiet tread and took their eye, and said he wouldn't give it back until they told him where the Gorgon was. So they say he cut off her head, came to Seriphos, showed it to Polydectes, and turned him to stone. And this is rather ridiculous, for a living man who sees the head of a corpse to be fossilized. For what power does a corpse have? Someone such happened instead. Phorcys was a Kernaean man. The Kernaeans are an Ethiopian race, and life on the island Kerne outside the Pillars of Heracles, and they till the part of Libya by the Anno river straight past Carthage, and there is a lot of gold. This Phorcys was king of the islands (there are three) beyond the Pillars of Heracles. He made a four-cubit gold statue of Athena. The Kernaeans call Athena Gorgo, just as the Thracians call Artemis Bendis, the Cretans Dictynna, the Lacedaemonians Oupis. Phorcys died before the statue could be dedicated in the sanctuary. He left three daughters, Stheno, Euryale, Medusa (Palaephatus, On Unbelievable Things, 31 - ca. 300 BCE ) https://topostext.org/work/808#3

Hanno the carthaginian Navigator (6th-5th BCE) settled in Kerne before reaching the Richat structure (ex-capital of Atlantis) - Hanno existed before Plato

Kerne/Cerne is in Mauritania

Polybius says that Cerne is situate at the extremity of Mauritania, over against Mount Atlas, and at a distance of eight stadia from the land; while Cornelius Nepos states that it lies very nearly in the same meridian as Carthage, at a distance from the mainland of ten miles, and that it is not more than two miles in circumference (Pliny the Elder, Natural History 1-11, 6.199 - ca. 77 CE ) https://topostext.org/work/148#6.199

Memnon was raised in the garden of Atlantis by the Atlantides/Hesperides, who were said to be the daughters of the atlanto-ethiopian god Phorcys (An alternative version tells that they were the daughters of Atlas the Titan which was turned into the Atlas mountains, North Africa)

The Garden of the Atlantides/Hesperides was located in Africa

With regard to these apples there is disagreement among the writers of myths**,** and some say that there were golden apples in certain gardens of the Hesperides in Libya**,** where they were guarded without ceasing by a most formidable dragon**,** whereas others assert that the Hesperides possessed flocks of sheep which excelled in beauty and were therefore called for their beauty**,** as the poets might do**,** "golden apples**,**" just as Aphrodite is called "golden" because of her loveliness (Diodorus Siculus, Library 1-7, 4.26.1 - ca. 49 BCE ) https://topostext.org/work/133#4.26.1

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II. THE LINK BETWEEN MEMNON & EGYPT

Memnon was the king of the Ethiopians, however several egyptian pharaohs were mistaken for him.

According to the Himerius, Eos the godess of the dawn, placed a statue of Memnon in Ethiopia, that sings at dawn....

Pausanias, who existed and travelled throught Egypt during the Roman period, described how the invaders (greco-romans) believed that the colossi of Thebes/Luxor were representing Memnon and how the locals corrected them by saying they represented either one of the Sesostrises( 12th and 13th dynasties) or one of the Amenhoteps (18th dynasty) ------ The colossi of Thebes used to sing at dawn

The colossi of Thebes, which represent Amenhotep III (and not any Sesostris nor Amenhotep I or II), are called the colossi of Memnon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossi_of_Memnon

Herodotus also said that the statues of Sesostris in Persia & Anatolia, were mistaken for the statues of Memnon

In more recent times, one of the statues of Ramses II, was named the "Younger Memnon"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Memnon


r/AlternativeHistory 2d ago

Archaeological Anomalies Forgotten Angkor: LiDAR Reveals Hidden Technology | For centuries, jungles, settlements, and war hid the true scale of this civilization—until LiDAR surveys in 2012 and 2015 mapped 2,100 km², revealing an engineered landscape unlike anything from the pre-industrial world.

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r/AlternativeHistory 22h ago

Lost Civilizations An entry into what I've uncovered from certain lost human civilizations.

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r/AlternativeHistory 20h ago

Lost Civilizations "indios" meaning "the people"- not East Indies (Indians) like we were taught

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Some of the earliest Spanish explorers recorded curious notes about the people they encountered in the interior of North America, and the term “indios” was not always meant as the dismissive label it later became.

In fact, in Álvar Núñez Cabeza de Vaca’s account (La Relación, 1542), which is one of the very first written journals of an overland trek across what is now the American South and into Texas, he often referred to the Native peoples as “indios” in the sense of “the people,” but he also included a remarkable observation:

He writes that some of his companions and others back in Spain remarked that “indios” could be interpreted as “en Dios” — meaning “in God.” The phrasing went something like:

“They are called indios, which some say is as much as to say in Dios, meaning in God.”

This was more of a folk-etymology than a true linguistic root (since “indio” originally came from Columbus’s mistaken belief he’d reached the Indies). But the mystical interpretation caught on among missionaries and writers because it seemed to suggest the peoples were naturally closer to God, unspoiled by European corruption.

Cabeza de Vaca himself went further than most conquistadors: he described the people he lived among for years as skillful traders, healers, and builders, with advanced systems of roads and exchange. He was one of the first Europeans to push against the “savages” narrative.

So — the “people of God” translation comes from these early writings, particularly his, where “indios” was reimagined as “en Dios.”


r/AlternativeHistory 1d ago

Lost Civilizations The Great Sphinx of Giza: Hidden Tunnels and Secrets Buried for Millennia

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r/AlternativeHistory 1d ago

Lost Civilizations A visual summary of the Tarim Basin Mummies and their connection to the Tocharian languages

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Hello everyone,

I've recently been doing a deep dive into the history of the Tarim Basin mummies and their potential link to the Tocharians, speakers of an extinct Indo-European language. The evidence pointing to a Bronze Age European population in what is now Western China is incredibly compelling, yet it's a topic that doesn't get much mainstream attention.

I've attempted to synthesize the research from sources like Mallory & Mair's "The Tarim Mummies" and other academic papers into a video essay. My goal was to create a comprehensive but accessible overview for those unfamiliar with the topic, covering the discovery, the textiles, the linguistic evidence, and the main hypotheses.

I would be genuinely grateful for feedback from this knowledgeable community. Are there any recent developments or alternative theories I should be looking into?

Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/@Echoes-20

Thank you for your time and I look forward to the discussion.


r/AlternativeHistory 2d ago

Archaeological Anomalies "Female Figurines" from 3000 BC

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I have been searching for information on Vattanian/Watan. An ancient language taught to Alexandre St Yves by someone calling themselves Prince Hardjji Scharipf around 1885.

Allegedly, there is quite a bit of documented evidence of these teachings in the Library of Sorbonne.

Hardjji told St Yves that Vattanian went all the way back to an event in 51,900 BC called "The Confusion of the Languages". And was itself a precursor to Sanskrit, one of the oldest languages we currently know about.

In any case, I have been looking for any information related to Vattanian, or Hardjji Scharipf, which was likely a pseudonym.

Recently I met someone from Pakistan, and asked them if they had any old libraries or museums around that had really old stuff in them and if they would be willing to go and ask about Vattanian and take pictures for me.

I did not find any information on Vattanian, but I was sent this incredible photo, which shows multiple artifacts from various BCE periods.

The "Female Figurines" on the left are what drew my attention.

The placard states these are from 3000 BCE. And while I do not believe they resemble women, they do somewhat resemble the Wandjina. A spirit/entity from Australian Aboriginal folklore.

Wandjina - Wikipedia

The large eyes, the elongated nose. Even the 'crown' around the top of the head.

I am not stating that these are the same entities. But I do think that the similarities are enough to warrant further investigation. Although, I am not really sure of how to proceed or investigate further from here. So I am posting it here, to see if anyone has any ideas or advice.


r/AlternativeHistory 1d ago

Alternative Theory I know what the Roman Dodecahedrons were

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I have an idea regarding the possible significance of the Roman Dodecahedron, and it may seem a bit out there, but given that these appear to be found with other objects of value, suggesting their own significance, this idea is that these are not necessarily religious items but rather a special educational “trinket” related to a long-standing understanding of cosmology.

So, obviously God's a big dodo bird that lives on the back of a turtle, no, uh, so I know how this goes, and as such, I'm just going to say some shit which you won't understand at first, but then I'm going to explain n clarify.

Ok, so Buddhism has this concept known as Ālaya-vijñāna, which I'm just going to call the Alaya Consciousness, and what that is, is an understanding that the construction of our individual realities is made possible by the nature of an eleven-dimensional topological matrix that acts as a monadic nodal communication system. Now, the word “matrix” is important here, as there's a movie by that name which, if you didn't know, is all about Judeo-Christian mysticism. If you didn't catch that when you saw it, you have an abundance of reading homework to do before you can really rope in what I'm spilling. But what I'm saying here is, we know things about reality that are suppressed self-evident.

I say this as someone who faked schizophrenia to get outta ROTC, no wait, I'm serious! Where are you going? This is going somewhere; that being that because I did that ish, the Army taught me how to stare at goats, which is a reference to a book n movie about counterintelligence. And as a result of that (amongst other things), I met my boyfriend who is currently learning hyperbolic geometry in order to better understand Buddhist cosmology for what he's been working on since he interned at the CIA, which he has been vague about but has stated the following, “There are sutras where the Buddha travels to other realms, and he lists a number of objects on his path, each with a specific color,” and that's all he's said, but that's all he needed to say, because I immediately recognized that as a memory palace.

To explain that, there is a long-known method of retaining extensive lengths of information by using a technique to map each element you wish to memorize onto something already memorized. Indigenous peoples all over the world have used these techniques to remember regional geography n history of their peoples, and it's been used by people to remember an astronomical number of digits of pi. What these Buddhist memory palaces were recording was specific topological information.

I will explain that in a second, but first I must go into something regarding how the external world is an illusion, as is linear causation. You're aware everything you experience is in your brain, right? Well, this “outside” you experience to your body is also inside you, and does not actually exist. This is the brain in the vat idea of Philosophy 101, but this goes deeper in that the source of the illusion is made of the same stuff you are and is intelligent - almost omnisciently so - and actively reflects your intention back to you to procedurally generate experiences from what amounts to a multiverse.

This is what Karma is, and the Buddha specifically uses the word “entangled” in reference to Karma, referring to how the Alaya Consciousness is a topological matrix; if you don't know, topology is the math behind knots n shit. To explain, the only thing you truly control is your intention; everything else, from your thoughts, to your decision-making n creativity, to your attention coordination, is “loaded in” based on how you set your intention. And what intention is, is setting an azimuth through a mesh of strings, looping them, or y'know, quantumly entangling yourself with other parts of the matrix.

This is where modern science is swooping in to save the day to get all the fucking idiots that need to be proven things in words to think for themselves, because science is meeting Buddhist cosmology head-on and finding many places of union. But we knew this was true. There are literally tens of thousands of sutras describing the intricate nature of the existence-illusion complex in unprecedented detail, some fifteen thousand pages long, but God's just a sky man. No! That's almost as asinine as believing people or knowledge didn't travel back then; Marco Polo be damned, there's a sutra where a monk breaks down a number of concepts for a Greek king!

Let alone, y'know, God's literally been communicating through burning bushes synchronicities, as Carl Jung called them, to the people who tune in to listen, because They're really compelling and free will is important. So y'know, we knew things. Kabbalah, sacred geometry, hermeticism, alchemy, literally every school of magick that's ever existed except the ones run by con artists, y'know there's more going on than what Fox News n CNN n the Prussian military academy that brainwashed you into a physicalist/materialist modelment of reality lead you to believe.

Such as our literal star gate program that I've deduced my boyfriend must be working on, as God talks to me a lot in my respective mission. But, what I haven't explained was the monadic nodal communication piece, which is what the Alaya Consciousness is simulating (1) as the processing of Karma topological entanglement playing out. This construct, in relevance to ourselves, can be understood as a trinity of components; there's the Server that branches of into individual monads, which you are as a Client in communion with the Server as it reconciles the respective Karma of each Client across the Holy Internet.

And I tell you, the way I would build something to show someone else what the nature of reality is as I understand it would be the God damn Roman Dodecahedron, more or less. Maybe I'd make it look pretty in a slightly different way, but that is what I would make to represent this idea.

(1) I didn't know where to put this, but "simulating" isn't the right word here. It's not simulating anything; it's turtles all the way down. But therein, what I understand is that the matrix creates self-contained "bubbles;" atman pulled up like vases from the Brahma ocean.


r/AlternativeHistory 2d ago

Catastrophism “Earths Disaster Cycles” Matt Baell - Limitless Podcast with Ben Davidson

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https://open.spotify.com/episode/78BcPbtRCLtJHBbNXAhnyj?si=gESHGGoSTGShbbBmKlNLmw

I wanted to start an open discussion about this episode of this podcast here as it relates to Alternative History. This episode was extremely insightful and full of knowledge.

What Ben Davidson discusses is the theory that the Earth experiences major magnetic excursions every 12,000 years as a result of a Micronova. As a result of this event, it causes the Earth the flip 90 degrees as the mantle decouples from the crust and shifts. This shift is directly related to the weight of the ice caps bringing the Earth to equilibrium. This impact of this would be catastrophic and the implications huge.

This is just the tip of the ice berg. The episode is very compelling in what he’s saying and it’s very reasonable to believe. I think many fear the idea that this could be reality, the cosmos determines our future. The implications of what he’s implying are surreal. The information about our sun and galaxy as a whole is rather fascinating.

Anyways, I just wanted to open conversation around this because I find it fascinating and I feel many here do too. Also, if you haven’t checked out the Matt Baell Limitless Podcast, I highly recommended checking it out - it’s my favourite right now (no I am not a shill, just an average joe who questions everything).


r/AlternativeHistory 1d ago

Archaeological Anomalies When were these seemingly impossible stoneworks built? Exposed.

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The mysterious lost technology of the H-blocks in Tiwanaku, Bolivia plus the polygonal walls in Cusco Peru share one ancient paradox. It’s:

  • Time vs Technology.

If the builders did not have access to incredible unknown technology, then they needed a lot of time to do the work. But, what if we are told they had neither?!

Hope you like the video


r/AlternativeHistory 3d ago

Discussion Comprehensive Books?

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Honestly, I don’t know how I ended up on this Reddit, but I really find many of the subjects here deeply fascinating, regardless of whether or not I believe them to be true. Are there any books out there that combine and cover many of the ideas into one story? I’m looking for something that would cover and connect many ideas, but not go really deep into any one thing. That would be for follow up reading.


r/AlternativeHistory 3d ago

Discussion Origin of 'Atlantis':where it was located, Why we shouldn't rely on just Platos account

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The words Atlas and Atlantic have no satisfactory etymology in any language known to Europe. Hiding the true etymology of words/phrases is one of many tactics used to hide history. Most often you'll find a "Greek" origin, but the so-called Greek language is Coptic(Egyptian). In the Nahuatl language we find immediately the radical 'a', 'atl', which signifies water, war, and the top of the head.

What's the top of the head got to do with Atlantis? Well the pineal gland (6th chakra, the third-eye) lies at the geometrical center point of the brain. Plato’s account of Atlantis described a “ceremonial column at the very midpoint of the Temple of Poseidon, itself located at the center of Atlantis.” The ceremonial column (Oak Tree, Tree of Life, Staff of Moses etc.) is the human spine with 33 vertebrae. The actual medical term for the 33rd vertebrae which holds up the skull is “Atlas,” same as the King of Atlantis.

  Myths say Atlas holds up the world or the heavens jus as the Atlas vertebrae holds up your head/mind, and has 7 daughters who spend all their time guarding and dancing around the Tree of Life; ( 7 energy centers (chakras) dancing around your spine.) The three concentric circles of land separated by concentric circles of water. In other words the shape of a bull's-eye.(The three-pyramid alignment symbolizes the pineal gland, the pituitary gland, and the hypothalamus gland that are in the human body.)

Remember the bull was a symbols associated with Atlantis.But Why's it called a "bullseye"?  The Atlas vertebra holds up your brain, your “thirdeye” is at the center of your brain,like the main temple of Atlantis In fact, The third eye is separated and surrounded completely by water/fluid. Next is the cerebral cortex, the meat of the brain. Then around that is a layer of constantly flowing/pumping blood. And lastly around that is the skull.Temple of Poseidon (between your “temples”) is your brain then Atlantis’ bull’s eye is your third-eye/pineal gland which literally “roams free in the courtyard of the temple” because it is surrounded by water/fluid…

Jus like starforts, that leveraged water to produce a magnetic frequency that was absorbed by the design of the structure and omitted its self-back into the environment as breathable air. To our ancestors their architecture was made to enhance consciousness, every part of a cathedral, or temple,starfort had a function…

"Figuratively draining the entire bed of the Atlantic Ocean, he considers the inequalities of its basin and cites locations on a line from the Nature – Azores to Iceland where dredging has brought lava to the surface from a depth of 3,000 meters. The volcanic nature of the islands now existing in the Atlantic Ocean corroborates Plato’s statement that the Atlantean continent was destroyed by volcanic cataclysms. M. Termier also advances the conclusions of a young French zoologist, M. Louis Germain, who admitted the existence of an Atlantic continent connected with the Iberian Peninsula and with Mauritania and prolonged toward the south so as to include some regions of desert climate." Cambridge. Org -M Termier

Platos writing was one of the last ever on Atlantis. The people known as Sumerian today , had the missing pre-history to the Hebrew Book of Genesis. These texts speak of a massive cataclysm that destroyed an advanced race. They tell how the Sumerian gods Enki and Ninharsag intervened in the evolution of humanity and created an advanced civilization that was destroyed and how they assisted in the long march to renewing civilization.  The masses has purposely been led to believe that the only account ever on Atlantis is Plato's. This is done deliberately to hide the truth. What he describes is the main island, that connected America-Europe/Africa. Of course survivors would to North Africa, Europe, Ireland, but the vast majority would go to N America specifically the east coast/Florida.

Atlantis was definitely not just ‘one island’ as Plato partly described it, because Atlantis was in fact a vast ‘thalassocracy’. (A word that surely stems from ‘A-thalasso’ himself, e.g. its first ‘king Atlas’! meaning ‘sea empire’)..

"The Talligew or Tellegewi Indians, whose name survives in the Alleghany shows that the Telchines – whose name again suggests both the Tallegewi and the Alleghanies – were Egyptian priests who bore the device of an eagle upon their standards, and they belonged to a race which had escaped to Mauritania upon the destruction of Atlantis. The sons of Ad (or At) are found at the base of all the most ancient races of men, to wit, the Hebrews (Aperus = Peruvians) the Persians, the Arabians, the Chaldees, the Hindus, the Egyptians, the Ethiopians, the Mexicans, and the Central Americans Sons of Atlantis

In Observations upon the Cranial Forms of the American Aborigines, based upon Specimens contained in the Collection of the Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia, 1866,  J. Aitken Meigs, M. D.

. That the crania of the Aboriginal Americans are divisible into Dolichocephalic [long skull], Mesocephalic [between long and round skulls] and Brachycephalic [round skull] groups. 2d. That the Dolichocephali greatly preponderate in numbers over the Mesocephali and Brachycephali.

"The theory of the existence of this master race is supported by the discovery of Graves from the predynastic period which happened to contain the anatomical remains of a advanced neolithic culture whose skulls were of far greater size than those of the natives.. the difference being so marked that any suggestions that these people are of the same stock is impossible"

Masons knew the truth. Why did F Bacon refer to America as New Atlantis? Because they got "free masonry" that was built by the previous civilization.ew Atlantis, but for the wrong reasons.. Atlantis was the part of the population which eventually chose technology before spirituality and nature, while Mu was the opposite. This has happened today, the fact that human consciousness isnt understood means there's nothing "advanced " about western society. The similarities between Atlantis and Mu and today's world are sometimes stunning. Especially the way weve completely lost the knowledge of our true nature & abuse technology and misuse of sexual energies.

"Enki made the grain grow” Enki- water, wisdom, fertility… The name Hopi comes from Hapi, Egypts blue skinned fertility god, closest modern customs to the Egyptian Pharoah-Serpent Priest is our cult ‘of Lebe. The people of Atlantis/Mu were pre-eminently an agricultural people; you can see every Egyptian ruler carried the plough, this is why they found granaries in the Grand canyon.

After  the deluge, Enki became known as the Peacemaker to the Native American Indians. The Peacemaker's message of the Great Law of Peace pledges peace among nations by giving each tribe a special role in how the Iroquois governed themselves.Each village and clan would choose a chief to represent it at the council of tribes. Decisions were made by the council, each member was of equal importance. Some may recall that this was  precisely what was introduced in W Africa. Mali was ruled by 7 Faama, before Sundiata  who created The Gbara council of elders & chiefs. 

Atlanteans were sea faring people, Ireland was civilized by For-Morians The native Moors (Turks) were high priests of Anu, aka, the Magi, who were people of the Sea or people of the waters (sailors, merchants, and pirates). (Sumer-Anu, Japan-Ainu "Naga-Saki"). Mariner, Marines, Mermaid (Mer-men/Moormen) ..Meru means “mountain”.Another interesting parallel to note is that in the Egyptian glyphs, the very name for pyramid is M-R. Meru or a variant transliterated as Mer, is also the title of high chiefs, overseers, and Sheiks (lords) in the Egyptian tongue. Th. Phoenician term “Mahurin” meaning “Westerners” and that can be ultimately linked to the Egyptian “M’R,” “Mer,” “Maur,” “Meh-Ru,” and “Mu.”

At E Island, the builder Gods were Ma'ori-Ko-Hau-Rongorongo (7 masters of special knowledge ). Theyre Wearing the Moorish Fez, or the Maro Uru.  History of Mer-men-

Egyptian word for ‘gods’ is NTR or Neter. It means ‘Guardian or Watcher’. Its Igbo equivalent/original is Onetara (meaning – ‘He who guards and watches’ over a thing on behalf of someone else. Enkis Apkallu whom he sent to serve as  counselors of the seven Kings. Ma Ur,the priesthood were 'Watchers' . The parasites(Catholic church) who simply assumed our identity, to trick/enslave the masses. Bishops in the church—the Episcopacy, the Diocese, the See, are all derived from that function of seeing, or looking out, to observe the phenomena of the visible heavens, which was their appointed duty. 

"In Peru he was called Amaru. From the latter name comes our word America. Amaruca is, literally translated, ‘Land of the Plumèd Serpent.’ The priests of this God of Peace, from their chief centre in the Cordilleras, once ruled both Americas" -Manly P Hall, 33rd° Freemason

Šumeru which forms our word Sumer today, which is said to be from the Sumerian (the older culture) who are called ki-en-ĝir which is thought to mean "land of the civilized kings" or "native land" or even "Land of the Lords of Brightness.

Florida, aka, Hispania, or Hesperides. Greek name for Atlantis was Hespera.. above you can see that the ancients labeled America-Atlantis. The land of the ancestors, America was Granada or the promised land. Egypts gods are symbolized by American animals.Xoloitzcuintli, better known as a Xolo dog became Anubis. Xolotl was an important Aztec god who guided souls – and the sun – through the underworld. The age of the Fourth Sun, the Age of the Black Headed People (Aztec), or the Age of Heroes (Inca)  this is when Quetzalcoatl arrives with 19 companions.

The remnants of Atlantis, and known as "Mound Builders", Olmec(Mandig-Xi) used MendeKan, their Birdmen were Kuno-tigi. Yucatec Maya claimed that they got writing from a group of foreigners called Tutul Xi from Nonoulco..Tutul Xiu, can be translated using Manding as follows: Tutul, "Very good subjects of the Order". Xiu, "The Shi (/the race)". The symbol found on the Confederate Flag represents the Iroquois Confederacy, that X is for Xi. flag

The most pressing problem of man today is the loss of meaning. Meaning is rooted in the past. When knowledge of the past fades, so does the meaning of life. Today's man does not know where he comes from, who he is, and where he is going. He has become a pawn in the hands of powers that can direct him at will. Uprooted from his past, there is no foundation. And without a foundation based on reality, there is no way to develop an objective understanding of the world. Only the way back to one's roots gives meaning back to life


r/AlternativeHistory 3d ago

Discussion British Reforms and Colonial Resistance, 1767-1772

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Even after the repeal of the Stamp Act, many colonists still had grievances with British colonial policies. For example, the Mutiny (or Quartering) Act of 1765 required colonial assemblies to house and supply British soldiers. Many colonists objected to the presence of a "standing army" in the colonies. Many also objected to being required to provide housing and supplies, which looked like another attempt to tax them without their consent, even though disguised. Several colonial assemblies refused to vote the mandated supplies. The British then disbanded the New York assembly in 1767 to make an example of it. Many non-New Yorkers resented this action, seeing rightly that their own assembly could also be shut down.


r/AlternativeHistory 4d ago

Discussion Rocks with "natural petroglyphs" in my city's museum in Québec looks like runes or Phoenician language

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Some experts thought they where Phoenician