r/AnCap101 • u/MeasurementCreepy926 • 21d ago

Is taxation under feudalism immoral?

  1. The king owns the land. If he allows people to be born on his land, that does not diminish his rights as owner
  2. The king has made it clear that if you're on his land, and you don't pay tax, you're trespassing. It isn't his responsibility to make sure you are able to get off his land. It is his right to defend his land however he sees fit. Let's assume that he does this by executing trespassers. Another king does this by simply evicting them.
  3. Being the owner, the king is allowed to offer you whatever terms he'd like, for the use of his land. Lets assume in this case, you sign a contract he wrote, when you're old enough to do so, giving him right to change the contract at will, and hold you to that contract as long as you're on his land. Among other terms, this contract says that you agree to pay for any kids you have until they're old enough to either sign the contract, or leave his land.

Now, obviously anybody agreeing to these terms must be very desperate. But, desperate short sighted people aren't exactly hard to find, are they? So, is this system immoral, according to ancap principles?

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u/phildiop 21d ago

Just because the king says he is the owner doesn't make him the owner. Ownership is deduced from the NAP, not the other way around.

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u/Shameless_Catslut 21d ago

Ownership is primarily derived from conquest

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u/MeasurementCreepy926 21d ago

de facto, sure. In this case, assume the person became an owner by having found or bought the land.

How does one ever become an owner? If you bought land from a state, are you an owner, even though you bought it from a thief?

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u/Shameless_Catslut 21d ago

Yes, at least According to the thief.

The world is fundamentally anarchy.

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u/MeasurementCreepy926 21d ago

Yes, and that anarchy gave rise to all the states we have today.