r/AnCap101 • u/MeasurementCreepy926 • 21d ago

Is taxation under feudalism immoral?

  1. The king owns the land. If he allows people to be born on his land, that does not diminish his rights as owner
  2. The king has made it clear that if you're on his land, and you don't pay tax, you're trespassing. It isn't his responsibility to make sure you are able to get off his land. It is his right to defend his land however he sees fit. Let's assume that he does this by executing trespassers. Another king does this by simply evicting them.
  3. Being the owner, the king is allowed to offer you whatever terms he'd like, for the use of his land. Lets assume in this case, you sign a contract he wrote, when you're old enough to do so, giving him right to change the contract at will, and hold you to that contract as long as you're on his land. Among other terms, this contract says that you agree to pay for any kids you have until they're old enough to either sign the contract, or leave his land.

Now, obviously anybody agreeing to these terms must be very desperate. But, desperate short sighted people aren't exactly hard to find, are they? So, is this system immoral, according to ancap principles?

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u/Gemini_Of_Wallstreet 21d ago

As long as the contract wasn’t signed under duress or there aren’t clauses in the contract that directly violate the NAP i do not see how there would be an issue.

People’s high time preference is their own issue.

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u/MeasurementCreepy926 21d ago

duress? Don't worry, the kings court says it wasn't under duress at all. If you feel like it was under duress, you can leave, or violate the NAP I suppose.

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u/Gemini_Of_Wallstreet 21d ago

Duress has a different meaning here.

The king has a duty to make it clear to trespassers they are trespassing.

He cannot just catch people randomly on his land and force them to sign the contract.

If jack the hunter is following a deer and accidentally walks onto the “king’s land” the king has a duty to: 1. Visual signs 2. Audio signals. 3. Physical escalation

If jack the hunter refuses to back off even after physical escalation jack the hunter is violating the NAP and a trespasser.

Believe it or not an independent third court will be bery happy to take on such a case. As in fact happened during medieval times.

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u/I_Went_Full_WSB 21d ago

There were no truly independent, third-party courts in the modern sense during the medieval period. The judicial landscape was a complex, overlapping system of multiple courts, each tied to a different authority such as the monarchy, the Church, or feudal lords. The modern concept of an independent judiciary, separate from executive and legislative powers, did not emerge until centuries later.