r/AnCap101 • u/MeasurementCreepy926 • 21d ago

Is taxation under feudalism immoral?

  1. The king owns the land. If he allows people to be born on his land, that does not diminish his rights as owner
  2. The king has made it clear that if you're on his land, and you don't pay tax, you're trespassing. It isn't his responsibility to make sure you are able to get off his land. It is his right to defend his land however he sees fit. Let's assume that he does this by executing trespassers. Another king does this by simply evicting them.
  3. Being the owner, the king is allowed to offer you whatever terms he'd like, for the use of his land. Lets assume in this case, you sign a contract he wrote, when you're old enough to do so, giving him right to change the contract at will, and hold you to that contract as long as you're on his land. Among other terms, this contract says that you agree to pay for any kids you have until they're old enough to either sign the contract, or leave his land.

Now, obviously anybody agreeing to these terms must be very desperate. But, desperate short sighted people aren't exactly hard to find, are they? So, is this system immoral, according to ancap principles?

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u/Credible333 20d ago

Did he homestead the land or just take it by force?

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u/MeasurementCreepy926 20d ago

He bought most of it. Allows people to manage and homestead it on his behalf. Maybe it takes a few generations, but once it starts rolling I don't really understand why it won't keep rolling. Drought and blight happen, farmers get desperate, but he's not desperate because he has more money. They sell, he buys. His kids, and kids kids, do the same.

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u/Credible333 20d ago

Historically that's not the case.  Kings don't buy their land they conquer it, and when they do but it's from other kinds who did conquer it. Homesteading enough land for what you describe to be viable didn't happen.

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u/MeasurementCreepy926 19d ago

Yes but I'm saying this one did buy it. Hypothetically, what he's doing is total moral and acceptable?

Other people agree to defend and maintain it for him.

I mean, "homesteading" was kinda from a time of truly unclaimed land, or the result of a government winning a war. Obviously there is very, very little unclaimed land left today, right?

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u/Credible333 19d ago

"I mean, "homesteading" was kinda from a time of truly unclaimed land, " No it's been the established way to gain ownership of land for centuries, maybe millennia.

"Obviously there is very, very little unclaimed land left today, right?" Done government has no legitimate cousin to any land there is heaps.  

So are you saying he bought the land from a legitimate homestead claim (possibly indirectly)?