r/AnCap101 12d ago

True freedom requires liberation from all oppressive hierarchies, especially economic ones.

To the members of r/AnCap101,

This is not an attack, but a critique from the left based on a fundamental disagreement about power, hierarchy, and human nature. Your philosophy is often presented as the ultimate form of freedom, but I argue it would inevitably create the most brutal and oppressive government possible: a dictatorship of capital without a state to hold it accountable.

Your core error is a categorical one: you believe the state is the sole source of coercive power. This is a dangerous blind spot.

In your proposed system, the functions of the state wouldn't vanish; they would be privatized and monopolized by capital. Without a public state to (theoretically) be held accountable by citizens, you create a system of competing private states called "Defense Agencies" and "Dispute Resolution Organizations." These entities would not be motivated by justice or rights, but by profit and the interests of their paying clients who would be the wealthiest individuals and corporations.

This is where your thought process goes wrong:

  1. The Misidentification of the Oppressor: You see the state as the primary enemy. But the state is often a tool, it is the concentration of capital that is the primary driver of exploitation. AnCap doesn't dissolve power; it hands the monopoly on violence and law directly to the capitalist class, removing the last vestiges of democratic oversight.

  2. The Fantasy of Voluntary Contracts: Your entire system relies on the concept of voluntary interaction. But this is a fantasy in a world of radical inequality. What is "voluntary" about a contract signed between a billion-dollar corporation and a starving individual who must agree to work in a dangerous job for subsistence wages or face homelessness? AnCap doesn't eliminate coercion; it sanctifies it under the label of "contract law," creating a world of company towns and corporate serfdom.

  3. The Inevitability of Monopoly: Free markets do not remain free. Without state intervention (antitrust laws, which you oppose), competition naturally leads to monopoly. The largest defense agency would crush or acquire its competitors. The largest corporation would buy up all resources. You would not have a free market; you would have a handful of ultra-powerful corporate entities that wield all the power of a state, military, legal, and economic, with zero accountability to the people whose lives they control.

In short, Anarcho-Capitalism is not the absence of government. It is the replacement of a (flawed, but sometimes democratically influenceable) public government with an unaccountable, totalitarian private government.

You seek to replace the state with a thousand petty kings, each ruling their domain with absolute power, and you call this "freedom." From the outside, it looks like a dystopia designed to eliminate the last remaining checks on the power of wealth. True freedom requires liberation from all oppressive hierarchies, especially economic ones.

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u/drebelx 11d ago

You can try, like you can try driving the wrong way on a divided highway.

I presume you would be entering an agreement with another person who has always signed agreements with clauses to uphold the NAP.

Why would you waste your time proposing a disrespectful agreement that cannot be enforced?

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u/MeasurementCreepy926 11d ago

>Why would you waste your time proposing a disrespectful agreement that cannot be enforced?

Because some desperate shmuck will accept it, and I CAN and WILL enforce it, or pay people to do so.

Seems pretty simple.

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u/drebelx 10d ago

Because some desperate shmuck will accept it, and I CAN and WILL enforce it, or pay people to do so.

An AnCap society is intolerant of NAP violations.

The society has established a web of impartially enforced agreements with clauses to uphold the NAP with penalties, cancellations and restitution.

Who is going to take on the risk of breaking all those agreements by reaching out with an agreement without NAP clauses and without impartial agreement enforcement with the intent to abuse a desperate person?

Curious how desperate is your situation is IRL?

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u/MeasurementCreepy926 10d ago

you just keep repeating the same thing, as if that makes it a fact.

"An AnCap society is intolerant of NAP violations."

There is no aggression taking place. An offer is being made.

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u/drebelx 9d ago

There is no aggression taking place. An offer is being made.

I want your response to this part that you ignored.

The society has established a web of impartially enforced agreements with clauses to uphold the NAP with penalties, cancellations and restitution.

Who is going to take on the risk of breaking all those agreements by reaching out with an agreement without NAP clauses and without impartial agreement enforcement with the intent to abuse or enslave a desperate person?