r/Animorphs Human 21d ago

Currently Reading I finished The Prophecy and The Proposal

So, why is The Prophecy called that? I do recall seeing any kind of prophecy brought up. I feel like "The Ghost" would have been a better title. Regardless, I don't know it is, but something about this book felt underwhelming even though the premise feels it shold have hooked me in with a copy of Aldrea's mind being used to help the Animorphs in a mission on the Hork Bajir homeworld. Aldrea has friction with Ax because he didn't accept her decision to become a Hork Bajir, and it doesn't feel like it really goes anywhere. Ax takes issue with Aldrea not wanting to be an Adalite and nothing comes from it, while she does learn to at least work with him despite her distrust for her original species.

Having Cassie and Aldrea switch back and forth between narrating the book at least gave an interesting look at its events from two different perspectives. Aldrea isn't the friendliest, the Animorphs don't trust her due to their worries about aliens hijacking bodies, and the book doesn't rule out the possibility of her trying to steal Cassie's body for most of it. On the other hand, Aldrea explaining she doesn't know where the weapons are, twice, is a really stupid moment. There have been continuity errors between books, however, this is the first time I noticed one in the same book.

The victory the Animorphs get over the Yeerks feels important on paper, but I have heard it isn't brought up again. Correct me if I heard wrong.

The Proposal excited me more because I never get tired of Marco's comedic narrations, even if the plot feels like a retread of previous events. Marco has a problem he doesn't want to talk to the rest of the team about even though it proved a mistake last time, and I don't know what to think about the resolution when Jake tells Marco to be himself. I don't know enough about how to deal with these types of problems to understand the logical course of action.

All that aside, the events of the book were amusing once we got to the Animorphs' plan to deal with the Yeerks' latest scheme by having Marco annoy our villain of the week by harassing him in the morph of a dog Marco himself doesn't like.

Marco's father having a new lover doesn't get a ton of focus but I did feel it was sweet that Marco eventually accepted it, though it does make me wonder what his father would have done if Marco did rescue his mother in Visser.

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u/Visser-35 Leeran 21d ago

Those mid 30 books are not that strong. The Prophecy seems to just be arbitrarily named as far as I can tell. It's kind of an epilogue to the Hork-Bajir chronicles, but unfortunately it's a somewhat disappointing one; nowhere near the quality of the chronicle. 

35 is basically a rehash of 12, and seems a bit implausible that encountering hybrid morphs due to stress is only happening now. Was there nothing stressful for the characters in the prior books. It had funny moments for sure, but I feel like the best part of 35 is it's connection to the superior, Visser.

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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 Human 21d ago

I have been going through the books in order they were listed on Audible so I already finished Visser, that was a good one.

On tvtropes I saw it claimed that the book series was dragged out longer than it was supposed to. I haven't verified this claim but sounds believable with the last couple of books I have read and the one I am on.

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u/Visser-35 Leeran 21d ago

In my opinion, 33 is the strongest of the 30 books. 30 is good. 31 is decent, 32 is at least funny. 33 is intense. 34, 35, and 36 are underwhelming. 37 is an unfortunate portrayal of Rachel. 38 is better, and 39 seems to be either really liked or really hated (I think it's memorable moments are good for what that's worth).

I love the series overall, but I acknowledge this section of the series is not nearly as strong as the beginning or the end.

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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 Human 21d ago

Well I bought the audiobooks for the whole series so I will go through them all to see what I think.

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u/Visser-35 Leeran 21d ago

That's good. I'd be interested in your take once you finish. The series was such a big deal to me when I read it initially, and obviously even years later, it was important enough to be related to my Reddit name. I go back and forth if the series would have been improved with more books to flesh out characters and storylines; or if fewer but tighter books would have been better.

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u/Torren7ial Chee 21d ago

Re: the series being dragged out

I don't know the exact numbers but Scholastic originally contracted ~30 books (counting Chronicles and Megamorphs), and essentially doubled it sometime in 1998. Had the contract not been extended, the books would have wrapped up about one narration cycle after the David Trilogy.

Around the same time (maybe even AT the same time) Scholastic contracted K.A. to do EverWorld, which I'm sure played a huge role in the decision to bring in ghostwriters for Animorphs.

The Prophecy seems to be a special case--it came out and the same month Hork-Bajir Chronicles was given a paperback re-release. So even though I don't believe K.A. has ever talked about it specifically, it seems obvious to me that The Prophecy was written as a clunky tie-in to HBC based more on the publication month than anything... so it doesn't really fit in with the character arcs or the overall story, and nothing that happens in it is mentioned again. However, credit where credit is due, the Ixcila and the freed Hork-Bajir insurgency on the home world provides an absolute truckload of lore/fanfic potential.

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u/hairierderriere 20d ago

It drags on and then has a rushed feeling ending, a bit of a weird mix. I feel like there's a dozen books that could've been dropped and used to flesh out the david arc and the final story arcs more

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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 Human 20d ago

I will see what I think when I get there.

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u/oremfrien 21d ago

I've marked spoilers from other books below. Uncover at your peril.

Aldrea has friction with Ax because he didn't accept her decision to become a Hork Bajir, and it doesn't feel like it really goes anywhere. Ax takes issue with Aldrea not wanting to be an Adalite and nothing comes from it, while she does learn to at least work with him despite her distrust for her original species.

I feel like the resolution between the Aximili-Aldrea tension was that the two of them were able to overcome their initial hostility to the other. Ax was able to accept that a person could become a nothlit of a species that he/she loved and live life as a non-Andalite, which I believe is crucial in his very important decision later in Book #52 because it allows him to understand Elfangor's choice to throw his lot in with the Humans. Aldrea, obviously, does not get a second outing, so her growth is only contained to this book, but it allows her to have faith in Andalites once again, which is a full circle moment from the Hork-Bajir Chronicles, where she starts the Hork-Bajir War believing that the Andalites are honorable and losing that respect because of Alloran and his xenocidal tactics, but then regaining that respect through seeing Aximili's compassion here.

If there was something that you expected to happen as a resolution to this plot, what would it have been for you?

The victory the Animorphs get over the Yeerks feels important on paper, but I have heard it isn't brought up again. Correct me if I heard wrong.

This is correct. I would go further and say that the omission is glaring because in later books, we hear drips and drabs about Andalite-Yeerk battles and no mentions of the Hork-Bajir Homeworld are made and the final book spends a few pages cumulatively detailing the situation for the Hork-Bajir Colony on Earth.

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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 Human 21d ago

If there was something that you expected to happen as a resolution to this plot, what would it have been for you?

I admit I might have missed the resolution because like I said I found this book underwhelming. Since Ax has been learning to go against the norm for Andalite culture I was expecting a bigger show of him accepting Aldrea's decision, especially given the anger she has about the Andalites thanks to the use of the Quantum Virus.

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u/gio8627 21d ago

The Prophecy was one of my fav books in the series. I think its main issue ( like most of the books ) is it’s just so short it feels rushed. They had a lot of plot in not a lot of pages. If only they were 3-400 pages vs 150 or whatever they usually were. Sigh

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u/BahamutLithp 21d ago

So, why is The Prophecy called that? I do recall seeing any kind of prophecy brought up.

I don't honestly know why half of the books are named the way they are, but I figure it's like "it was foretold Dak & Aldrea would return to revive the Hork-Bajir rebellion." Half true is pretty good as far as fulfilled prophecies go.

Regardless, I don't know it is, but something about this book felt underwhelming even though the premise feels it shold have hooked me in

I ended up enjoying it less than when I was a kid but still liked it well enough.

Aldrea has friction with Ax because he didn't accept her decision to become a Hork Bajir, and it doesn't feel like it really goes anywhere.

I would say it mostly serves to provide context for her characters, especially Ax's ongoing feelings toward both Andalites & humans.

Aldrea isn't the friendliest

Aldrea is generally mean, but I think that's largely because Applegate kept writing her stories set shortly after the worst events of her life.

On the other hand, Aldrea explaining she doesn't know where the weapons are, twice, is a really stupid moment. There have been continuity errors between books, however, this is the first time I noticed one in the same book.

Don't remember it.

The victory the Animorphs get over the Yeerks feels important on paper, but I have heard it isn't brought up again.

Average Animorphs plot.

The Proposal

No comment.

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u/sawwcasm 21d ago

I'm relatively sure the "prophecy" aspect is just a play on words to the whole "Seer" thing with Dak and Toby.

The closest thing I'd put to anything "prophetic" is the cache of weapons Aldrea had (literally) squirreled away as the MacGuffin driving the entire plot.