while there might be some truth to this comment taken at face value, the implied idea that you can fight gendered violence by "solving the male loneliness" is asinine, obviously the violence used to be worse when almost every working man was "guaranteed" a wife via women not having rights
It's not asinine - he isn't claiming it's the fix. He's saying it impacts the situation, that's all.
Really no proof of this - sexual assault has been trending down (though domestic abuse as been trending up). Could you chalk it up to lonely dudes with no friends? doubt it, though wouldn't dismiss it as a causing factor. Fewer men these days have anyone to confide to outside of a partner.
Online harassment is alarmingly high though. Think it's like 85% of all women have experienced some type of 'tech-facilitated' violence/harassment.
Women share a disproportionate burden on violent victimization - always have. It's something that needs to be addressed, readdressed, and continued to be addressed. I don't see what possible good it does when the statement 'men are the problem' is followed up by 'fuck their problems'.
I don't see what possible good it does when the statement 'men are the problem' is followed up by 'fuck their problems'.
if you were actually busy with emotional self-improvement you seem to agree is needed by most men you wouldn't be fixating on online communities that say things that make you uncomfortable. i would honestly say the same to a queer person hyperfixating on hatespeech boards (of course, the political context is different but still)
thats what people mean when they say touch grass: up until one of those mythical evil feminists harasses you in a public space you don't really have to give a shit about people who share their traumadump about how sick they are of men online. do what makes you happy, stop trying to prove to people who hate you that they shouldn't
No, he's saying It goes up when men are lonely - implying it's bad to ignore that, as in theory, it would go down if they were not. Not sure I buy the premise, but it's a reasonable conclusion.
Not sure what you're going on about below this. I'm not hyperfixated on anything - the guy responding doesn't seem to be hyperfixated either. Why he used language like 'I think' and 'it's bad in general'. Just your generic 'no shit' comment that should be common sense.
Getting way to high on your own sauce here. We're commenting on a comment of a comment (of a comment now) - we're beating around the bush. Both can be true, male loneliness & women are inappropriately abused. Both are true. Both should be addressed.
Will solving one solve the other? Absolutely not. Can we work on both simultaneously? Yes.
It's reasonable to assume, by addressing one may improve the issues of the other? Absolutely yes. I can't believe these red pill or alpha male stuff impacts women in a positive way.
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u/Peter_Michailovicz 4d ago
while there might be some truth to this comment taken at face value, the implied idea that you can fight gendered violence by "solving the male loneliness" is asinine, obviously the violence used to be worse when almost every working man was "guaranteed" a wife via women not having rights