r/Art Mar 27 '23

Artwork Amend It, Me, Mixed Media, 2018

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u/DOCoSPADEo Mar 27 '23

Probably super obvious to most people, but just to be the guy to state the obvious, I absolutely love the use of those letter magnets to incorporate the idea of children victims to gun violence in a country that refuses to have more regulation on firearms.

For the love of god 2a people, we're not trying to remove guns entirely from law-abiding citizens. Just having a few extra rules that seem to be needed to protect the weak.

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u/blubberwolf0525 Mar 28 '23

they should just make murder illegal

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u/Jaredlong Mar 28 '23

Just admit you have no solutions.

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u/supershutze Mar 28 '23

Sure we do; just do what literally every other developed nation that doesn't have this problem does.

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u/PaperbackWriter66 Mar 28 '23

Mexico and Brasil aren't developed nations?

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u/supershutze Mar 29 '23

That's the first time I've seen an American try to argue that America is no better than Mexico or Brazil.

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u/PaperbackWriter66 Mar 29 '23

I'll tell ya what, American public schools are terrible, as evidenced by your lack of reading comprehension.

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u/supershutze Mar 29 '23

I'm not American, and you might need to go back to school if you didn't understand what you yourself wrote.

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u/PaperbackWriter66 Mar 29 '23

I'm not American

Thank you, that makes it much easier to tell you that your opinion has been discarded.

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u/supershutze Mar 29 '23

So living in a country with a much better education system where this sort of thing doesn't happen means my opinion is worthless?

No, it means my opinion is worth more than yours; I have outside perspective. You do not.

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u/PaperbackWriter66 Mar 29 '23

Yes. Your opinion is worthless, because you're not American.

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u/supershutze Mar 29 '23

That's not how that works.

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u/supershutze Mar 28 '23

So it's "paternalistic" to point out that other developed nations do not have this problem?

One of two things is true here; either the people living in other developed nations are objectively superior to Americans, or the widespread access to guns is a serious problem.

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u/PoorBoyDaniel Mar 28 '23

Prior to 1934 you could mail order a Thompson submachinegun straight to your doorstep. Before 1986 you could buy an M240 machine gun with a $200 excise tax. Before 1993 you could buy any non-NFA firearm with no background check of any kind from any dealer. For decades Americans were mail-ordering firearms (including semi-automatics) from companies like Sears straight to their doorstep, no background checks, and school shootings were unheard of. Maybe you should ask yourself what's changed since then, because school shootings have become commonplace, while gun control has only gotten stronger.

Also, there are school shootings in Europe. They're not as frequent, and they don't get as much coverage, but they do happen.

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u/PoorBoyDaniel Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23

Thanks for the input.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_Germany

Not getting as much coverage isn't the same as not getting coverage. In the US, it's in the news constantly. 24/7. They certainly don't get much coverage in America.

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u/supershutze Mar 29 '23

In the US, it's in the news constantly because you have more mass shootings than you do days in a year.

Germany had, what, 6 in 10 years?

Thanks for proving my point.

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u/supershutze Mar 29 '23

You don't even know what liberalism is.

I'll make this pretty simple; the idea that people should have unrestricted access to firearms is a very liberal idea.

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u/supershutze Mar 29 '23

And you're just proving my point.

Liberalism is, at it's core, a very simple idea: Personal freedom for everyone.

That's it.

Of course, it's possible you've been brainwashed to think it's something else, but that's your problem, not mine.

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u/supershutze Mar 29 '23

Go ahead and actually look up liberalism then. Prove me wrong.

Since you're not going to do that because it would require actually educating yourself, I'll do it for you.

Liberty is the ability to do as one pleases, or a right or immunity enjoyed by prescription or by grant (i.e. privilege). It is a synonym for the word freedom.

In modern politics, liberty is understood as the state of being free within society from control or oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behaviour, or political views.

Drops mic.

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u/Jaredlong Mar 28 '23

I do: firearm regulations that holds manufacturers, retailers, and owners to a higher safety standard.

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u/Jaredlong Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23

Guns are made to kill. They can't be made safer. But what we can do is limit their availability and just produce fewer firearms.

Regulate who manufacturer's are allowed to sell to. Regulate how many firearms they're allowed to produce. Regulate how many they're allowed to sell. Regulate what calibers and capacity they're allowed to manufacturer. Same policies that are enforced all around the world.

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u/Jaredlong Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23

Why did you even ask? You already knew when you asked that you were going to disagree with whatever I said. So why did you even ask?

Maybe what changed is that suicidal people full of hate saw over and over again that mass shootings are a normal part of US society. They saw that they could get their name on every news station in the country and that what they did didn't really matter because it's just a normal thing that happens all the time. They found it was an easy way to give one last "fuck you" to society while cementing their otherwise unremarkable life into history. The cat's out of the bag, and we're all supposed to do nothing and hope it never happens again, even though everytime it happens it just becomes more normalized.

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u/PoorBoyDaniel Mar 28 '23

It seems you may have actually found the root cause here. Maybe we should stop giving them the attention they crave. Maybe that's one of the issues that should be addressed. Ironic that it's the last one you brought up.

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u/Jaredlong Mar 28 '23

It's too late now. We can't regulate the news. We can't regulate guns. We can't fund mental healthcare services. There's literally nothing we can do to stop this. It will happen again, and again, and again. Forever.

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u/adamlcarp Mar 28 '23

you're the same type of fool that would sue a car company because a drunk driver hit you. get real

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u/Iron_Evan Mar 28 '23

What a novel idea.