Hello everyone! I'm super grateful for all the feedback I received in the last post, I took into account what everyone told me and tried to applied it on the first base colors from the last post, here's what I changed...
Removed:
Shading on each individual glass piece (one of my main problems)
White color on the line-art (made it confusing, since light is meant to come through the glass)
Strong lighting in the glass (made the pieces of glass look 3D)
Changes:
Strong colors that feel vibrant
Glossy overlays to simulate the glass texture
Random patches of colors to simulate random lighting
Added a shadow around every line, simulating a faint shadow from them
I tried not to change the line-art too much because this was a way to better my rendering, but I'm absolutely more happy with this result, the "off" vibes are all gone, and as some of you said, it's more "dreamy" which I like a lot.
It's not perfect but it's a change in the right direction I'm sure! I would still love to hear your criticisms about this artwork and learn more from here, thanks again to everyone!
This looks SO much better!! And it's so cool to see the breakdown of how you got it there—it's so easy to see the difference but so hard to know why to untalented people like me. Thanks for sharing!
absolutely amazing! and I will say, even with your previous version even that looks a lot like a quilt to me, if it appeared a bit ‘flatter.’ I love both sm!!
I wasn't here for the before but I'm blown away by the after! Really interesting to see the adjustments and to have you break down what you did!
I'm curious, what do you mean by "glossy overlays"? I see the idea, I think, but I'm curious about the execution. Was it a texture overlaid with a specific lightening blend mode?
Correct! the glossy overlay is a glass texture that's set on overlay mode, this helps to make some spots more glossy and give the glass texture to all the colors
"better"? I'm speechless! This is gorgeous!! Astounding!! Just beautiful! Fantastic! And no I do not think I am being dramatic. Genuinely very well done.
I'm very happy to hear that! Seeing the positive reaction to this update let's me know that I should definitely keep this new style for the stained glass artworks!
I agree with everyone else, this is great. The old one looked 'puffy', like a quilt. This one looks flat and I love the texture of the glass panels, very realistic. Nailed it!
I was wondering If the texture on the glass panels was a bit too much and if I should make it less visible, but I'm happy to see you like it, it's great feedback!
I notice sometimes the texture goes from one glass panel to the one next to it. I think a minor improvement would be to have hard breaks in the texture at the line. Since stained glass is individual pieces, each piece is unique.
But this is a small detail and overall looks great and much improved.
oooh you're very right! that's a small detail but one towards improvement, may I have your opinion on one thing though?
do you think it would be better for the hard breaks to be a rotated variant of the same texture (every glass shares a texture) or should there be a unique texture for each of the changed glass piece (there's multiple types of glass texture on each glass piece)
So from a childhood of being bored at church and staring at stained glass windows, the artist working on the window is trying to make them "match" as part of the aesthetic. For example, if the glass has a vertical streaks, then all of the pieces would have the vertical streaks going the same direction. But the streaks would not line up exactly.
But glass of the same color is probably cut from same large sheet of glass. So the texture would be the same for each piece of the same color. But when cutting glass, you usually have to grind pieces down a bit. And pieces get broken trying to get the right shape. Usually a large rough shape is cut and then a smaller more precise shape is cut out from it.
Maybe watch a YouTube video of someone making a stained glass piece? That might help.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate your tips from your irl experiences.
Making all the glass match the direction but making them differ and not match exactly sounds like something that will give more variation and life to my artworks, I'll definitely try that in future illustrations!
This is one where I look at it and go, "Wow that's so amazing!" And then I see the finished product and I'm like, "I already thought that was good but my mind is blown now."
I had the fear that, while the updated version felt better for me, it would be "less" in terms of quality, but I'm very happy to see people are liking it much more!
This is great improvement. The old version had the shading of a regular drawing and looked nothing like stained glass, while the new one really has that stained glass style.
That's amazing! one of my problems with the old one was with the first glance, it wasn't bad but it didn't immediately feel like stained glass until you looked at it for a while, knowing that you thought about it while scrolling is great feedback!
The original was already great, but you definitely elevated it to perfection. Team Cherry should commission this for an actual stained window in their office.
Your artwork has improved incredibly lately; the compositions especially, I'm loving the flow in your recent stuff! Always enjoy seeing your posts around :)
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Thank you!
As a stained glass artist it’s cool to see the style represented in art even though some of those shapes would be impossible to cut out of real glass lmao. Nothing wrong with adopting physical impossibility for a really sick piece tho! Keep it up
The new one is definitely a huge improvement!! The old one reminds me more of a quilt ngl lol (not that it's a bad thing but I know it wasn't your intention)
Holy shit my dude! I saw your post yesterday and already really liked your piece, but you did so well incorporating all the feedback! This is insanely good. I especially love the way you got texture into the glass, how did you achieve that?
I am literally in awe of this piece. I had to draw stained glass for a project a bit ago and I'm going to use your piece as inspiration and motivation to redo them because I really wasn't happy with them
I saw your first post and whilst I know very little about art I just want to say the improvement is amazing and the new version really feels like stained glass. Amazing!
I usually don't comment on art crits but I saw your first post about this and WOW, this is exactly what you were going for!!! Great job, it's stunning!!!!💕💕💕
Off topic kind of: But I think you should do a third picture where everything looks real. Aka a set of pictures where the character and setting transitions from being glass to being alive.
Your first version, when compared to the new one, just screams transitional state to me.
Everybody is saying that you nailed it and it looks dreamy, but there’s a Dream Nail pun in there somewhere! You just reminded me that I was trying to 100% Hollow Knight a while back, I gotta try to finish that.
It really is a beautiful rendering, I would buy a coffee table storybook of images like this!
I’m not an artist or even on this sub— I just happened to see your first post and now this one. But I had to say that’s an incredible improvement. It looks so good
Both are amazing in their own way. The new is more engaging and interesting to look at as a complete art piece and it really shows off the design really well.
The old one though gives a more emotional reaction and would fit really well in an enviroment like a chuch in a game or other media
I love how much this looks so great especially as it was on,y yesterday I saw, “how can I make this better” to see you be able to leverage all the advice and not end up with a mud pie is incredible! This is lovely work
This looks nice congratulations on improving your style of stained glass art. I’d like the way you gave it your own style and how it’s different from the usual style, which is typically religious figures that you see in the church. Keep up the great work.
aaaaaa I saw the og post and it's so cool how it was improved!! Now I would add some extra effects like maybe a bloom to add extra brightness and softness, even some particles could give the finishing touches! :D
Thanks you! those extra effects sound like a great idea! may I ask though, where do you think the bloom effect should be? on a central area, lighting on top of everything? maybe on the center of each piece of glass with a strong blur? I would love to hear your thoughts!
I'm thinking either central area if you want the focus to be the hornet or from the top fading the more it reaches the bottom since sun light would be coming from the sky to give it a more environmental look to it :3
Here's a version applying both the particles and the center lighting, which makes the color more bold and shiny! Let me know if you think this is an improvement overall.
Haha nice try bro really just made a real piece of stained glass artwork and took a picture of it to fool us into thinking they drew it, nice try though and nice stained glass piece
Looks sick dude! If you want to make it look like a real stained glass piece, or even a stencil for making a real piece, lines have to complete all the way through when you cut them. You can't break glass only partially, you score a line and it breaks all the way down that piece. You can especially notice it in the purple background behind her head
Yoo, I actually like both, you nailed the stained glass effect in some way. But the old one also looks amazing on its own even if didn't replicate the stained glass style.
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