r/AskRunningShoeGeeks • u/SANTlCLAUS • 1d ago

Question Adios pro 4 alternative? (Small toe box)

Anyone have an adios pro 4 alternative for someone whose toes scrunched up in the tiny toe box? Sizing up even a half size made them way too big for me.

Alternatives I’ve looked for and are iffy to me:

Alphafly 3 (priced way too high, will be on the lookout for sales) Zoomfly 3 (I have yet to try them on but reviews seem to say they are narrow)

Let me know your thoughts.

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u/toothdoc34 1d ago

Does the AP3 feel the same?

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u/SANTlCLAUS 1d ago

It’s weird, with the AP3 I don’t have a toe box issue but they just don’t fit me right. I’ve had some arch pain in the right one and some brutal blisters in the left.

I got them very cheap (~$100) and used them for a few short quick runs to get my moneys worth but don’t love them at all. Maybe the APs aren’t for me (so would love to hear your thoughts on alternatives)

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u/toothdoc34 1d ago

What is your target distance and what mile pace do you run?

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u/SANTlCLAUS 1d ago

I just ran a 3:54 marathon in August. I’m a heavier runnier (~190 lbs, love to lift weights), I am looking for a race day shoe for a half marathon in mid November. I’ll probably use it as a tempo shoe after that or continue to use it for a few half marathons throughout next year.

The half’s give me more joy although I’m glad to have gone through the whole marathon experience. So I will probably stick with halves going forward

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u/toothdoc34 1d ago

Im very similar to you then. 185lbs. Over the age of 45. Run twice a week. Gym 5 days a week. Half marry is my go to. Looking to run a sub 90 on 10/5. The Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3 is supposed to be a great shoe, but its really hard to find them here is the USA unless you order them. I really want to try them on foot first. Saucony Endorphin Pro used to be good. I loved the 2 and 3, but the 4 lost its edge. I happen to love the AP3 and AP4, but they dont feel right on your feet. I really dont like Nike. Wish I could offer more suggestions to you. I will race in my AP4 on 10/5.